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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Question Gearbox troubles!!!

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Just had my car remapped with all my new stuff on it but the gearbox has gone again! The problem is it must be running about 340bhp @ 1.4 bar and has destroyed 3rd gear. I need a stronger box than the sti2 (MY96) has but the problem is it has 4.1 diffs and all the later sti's have 4.4 diffs...my question is...WHAT IS THE SOLUTION???! (without spending a couple of g's on a 6speed)

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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Lightbulb gearbox

i have a 3th / 4th prodrive heat treated gear set £250
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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u could change the gearbox and rear diff like i did £900+vat api engines for sti6
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by g.pain
u could change the gearbox and rear diff like i did £900+vat api engines for sti6
Yes already considering that but the 4.4 diff makes acceleration slower....like the short ratios

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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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why not get a newer STI gearbox and split it and add your diff i had my diff put into an RA gearbox and ive never looked back
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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the 4.44 diff is lower geared for more acceleration.................the higher the number the lower the gearing...............

as steve says, easiest is to build a later type box with your diff ratios to suit....

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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Sorry for breaking your gearbox Stuart

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
why not get a newer STI gearbox and split it and add your diff i had my diff put into an RA gearbox and ive never looked back
Steve, what diffs did you fit to your RA box ? I'm running an RA box in my 94 WRX and the gearing is too low now with the 20g and Andy F remap I was thinking of fitting 3.9s and possibly a longer 5th from a type R as the box needs splitting due to a bent 3rd gear selector fork. Can you also tell me MPH in each gear at 7000 rpm.

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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I have a gearbox that had just over 60k mls before a complete rebuild (WRX over 400 bhp) TY752 VB3FA. This is fitted with a 4.11 diff. PM or e-mail me if it is of interest to you.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by coulty
Yes already considering that but the 4.4 diff makes acceleration slower....like the short ratios Stuart
Stuart, You will accelerate faster on a 4.4 but have a lower top speed. But with the long fifth gear we've fitted you should still be capable of ***[ more than enough ] mph. Anyway we have disciussed this and you're now all fixed up. Subject to the weather the box and diff etc will be in Edinburgh Thursday.

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Subject to the weather the box and diff etc will be in Edinburgh Thursday.
Would a strong Southerly gale get it here earlier
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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You suggesting we're 'windy' down here in civilisation?

AND fancy breaking the mans gearbox !! Did you try and beat your 10.76 then ??

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
You suggesting we're 'windy' down here in civilisation?

AND fancy breaking the mans gearbox !! Did you try and beat your 10.76 then ??

David API
I know david....it's a bloody disgrace....must have been eating too much porridge eh andy

Lets hope he did beat his 10.76 then

Just thought i would add that it is not andy's fault....just crappy subaru early boxes...couldn't even handle the power of a lada never mind a scoob!

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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I heard he's partial to that Scottish delicacy, Deep Fried Mars Bars

So it'll 11.76 this year then

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
I heard he's partial to that Scottish delicacy, Deep Fried Mars Bars

So it'll 11.76 this year then

David API
Aye will be with the "weight" penalty of eating the mentioned delicacy....LOL

Don't you think andy should personally pick up and deliver my gearbox and diff to me?
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Aye, so I will

ps it's 10.52 not 10.76
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Aye, so I will

ps it's 10.52 not 10.76
Listen mate, anywhere in the tens is ' quite good ' so don't get bragging!!

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by colin c
Steve, what diffs did you fit to your RA box ? I'm running an RA box in my 94 WRX and the gearing is too low now with the 20g and Andy F remap I was thinking of fitting 3.9s and possibly a longer 5th from a type R as the box needs splitting due to a bent 3rd gear selector fork. Can you also tell me MPH in each gear at 7000 rpm.

Cheers Colin.

im on uk diff's what ever they are and im running at 20g turbo with andy's remap as well at 1.5 bar peak dont know what my rpm per gear is but at 80mph on my speedo im at 3600rpm in 5th gear and the car still has a good top end , so ive been told .
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I have the same problem with mine 3rd gear went two week after it was mapped to 1.3 bar! Mines a uk box tho, but am after a stronger replacment box, I really didnt wana go down the six speed route mainly because of cost but its looking like the best option for the long run.

Any other ideas on what to change it for instead of the six speed???

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Same as Coulty, Sti 4, 5 or 6, P1 or 22B.

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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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Just thought i would update the thread. My sti6 gearbox, 4.4 rear diff and new exedy organic clutch are in and it is really great. It is a bit tight at the moment and i am running the box/diff in gently before using boost.

My thanks have to go out to David @ API for supplying the parts and with such helpful service too

Also have to thank Andy F for the great mapping (smooth as anything btw andy) and also for the help with information (although he did break the damn thing! LOL). He has been great no matter.

Here's to many years of no trouble!

Stuart

PS David, love the longer 5th....makes the cruising so nice now
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by coulty
PS David, love the longer 5th....makes the cruising so nice now
Wuss!
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Wuss!
Aye well we will see who's the wuss matey at the next Dastek RR day
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by coulty
Just thought i would update the thread. My sti6 gearbox, 4.4 rear diff and new exedy organic clutch are in and it is really great. It is a bit tight at the moment and i am running the box/diff in gently before using boost.

My thanks have to go out to David @ API for supplying the parts and with such helpful service too

Also have to thank Andy F for the great mapping (smooth as anything btw andy) and also for the help with information (although he did break the damn thing! LOL). He has been great no matter.

Here's to many years of no trouble! Stuart

PS David, love the longer 5th....makes the cruising so nice now
It is difficult to explain to people how much of an improvement it is when the longer fifth is fitted.

Enjoy.

Good luck, David APi Engines / APi Impreza
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by coulty
Aye well we will see who's the wuss matey at the next Dastek RR day
Don't worry I'll be there. Looks like I won't have anything like the top figure this time now you and Jamie have raised the bar a fair bit.

As for being a wuss, try type r gearing with the noise from a decatted blitz nur spec.
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