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Old May 21, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Hi,
I have a bolt in roll cage fitted in my version 5 type R. However, the rear diagonal member is missing - probably never fitted as this takes up the space for the rear passengers.
Does anyone know where I can source one - a long shot i know
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Old May 21, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Safety Devices or R&D will fabricate one for you
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Old May 21, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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As Richard says, you can get one made. Unless you are using the car as a track toy tho, the best option is probably to remove the whole thing. In an on-road scenario, you and your passengers will be safer without it.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo
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Old May 21, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Eh? Care to repeat that using more than two characters Bob?
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Old May 21, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Think Bob's concerned about the thread turning into a slanging match re: cages and safety implications
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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Why would he be worried about that?

In an on-road context, where the front seat passengers aren't wearing helmets, and where there may be rear seat passengers, the occupants will be safer without the cage in the balance of probabilities. Nothing contentious there.

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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Old May 21, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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I see the point in that - in fact it was stripped out so it could pass SVA. The logic being anyone in the back can slam into the uprights.

However i have removed my backseats
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Old May 21, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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If you have an accident on the road, the overwhelming likelihood is that it will not involve the car rolling, and thus the cage can't help to any significant degree. In the most likely scenarios, you are worse off (even in the front) with the cage than you are without it, due to the danger of you or the front passenger striking head, or other body part, on a piece of unyielding metal. It could turn an innocuous low-speed traffic collision into a trip to hospital.

Even covering the cage with foam is unlikely to help, as the sort of foam you'd be likely to fit would compress too much, and the sort of foam that would actually dissipate sufficient energy would still be enough to fracture an unprotected skull (look at the Safety Devices FIA "padding" and see how hard it is).

Your life of course, but IMO the best place for this cage is out of the car, unless, as alluded to further up, you are on a track, wearing a helmet, and preferably a harness.

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Old May 21, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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i had a video from sumbody on this board on the prodrive live day, he was sitting in the back as a passenger while the instructor showed them how to drift and slide about, he was actualy hanging on the bars to keep himself upright

nobody had a helmet on lmao

i blame the parents
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Old May 22, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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thanks for the safety devices tip. I rang them yesterday and said they can do it - bit dear though!
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Old May 24, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Greasemonkey, I was, ironically, trying to convey my concern at the possible rerun of Stickmicky's thread which, I'm sure you'll remember, turned into a multi page toy throwing session

For the record, I fully agree with your "better off without it" theory.

Bob (11 years served in the motor trade )
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Old May 24, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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LMFAO
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Old May 24, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Micky-how much did they quote for the extra bars?I've got a Cusco 6 point for my car and want to add some extra ones too.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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skiddus

6 pt only means the number of points at which its anchored to the car. A lot of the strength is in the cross-members and braces and diagonals.

Which are you on about?
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