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Old May 19, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Greetings All.

The following link is to the pdf file for PPP for the standard WRX

http://www.subaru.co.uk/IMGGB/WWW/Subaru_Accessories.nsf/NULL/FCF6E8E3044B3D2280256DDD00399AB7/$FILE/03MY%20WRX%20PPP.pdf

I know that its all about ideal conditions but are the performance figures quoted anywhere near reality - the standard 0-60 time quoted is more like the STI ?

(talking about a new WRX btw) ..

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Old May 19, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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the WRX PPP tested by EVO managed 4.8 to 60 ,you've got to remember that the WRX only needs to do two gear changed to get to 60 the STi apparently need's 3
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasoon
the WRX PPP tested by EVO managed 4.8 to 60 ,you've got to remember that the WRX only needs to do two gear changed to get to 60 the STi apparently need's 3
nope 2
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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that should have read, 1 gear change....i.e. 1st to 2nd, on the WRX, i think you can do it in an STI if you bounce off the limiter, which obviously isnt that good for the car....its after 60 when the STIs performance begins to count.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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I did say "apparently" sti-04!! ....

Make the WRX PPP 0-60 time seem even better then.

On one of the WRX PPP / STi debates someone was posting up that the reason the WRX PPP was quicker was because of an extra gear change.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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tell u what i am going out at 8 so i will post my finding then
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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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It might well be 4.8; from my modest attempts it is very quick, however I haven't yet dared to juggle a stopwatch while trying it! I suppose that to do it properly I should have a passenger

Does anybody know the best technique - I rev to about 4 or 5K, then lift the clutch while gradually increasing the revs, but before the clutch is fully released, the rev limit is close, so drop clutch, slam into second, and this time the clutch is just about released before I need third.

WRX 04 PPP + Quickshift. There is a bit of a burning smell afterwards though, and the tyres very definitely slip (originals).

Got nearly the perfect road for it now, since they did some "road improvements" on a nearby dual carriageway which involved putting in two sets of traffic lights, and the now compulsory high-grip surface. Only about 200 yards between the lights, but I have been in third before the second set comes up. Then check speed - err...80, unfortunately one of the other improvements is a 60 limit too.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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Rewolf

What do you think of the quickshift??
Is it the Prodrive one????
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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ok i was wrong, i didnt ever really look to be honest
2nd takes you to 56 (at 6500rpm i like to keep it safe)
then its into 3rd
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Thats the same table as prodrives site but there is a direct comparison to the sti as well the torque on the wrx ppp is a couple of newton meters higher as well if i remember right.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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thanks for reply so far ....

I need the WRX (not STI) because of baby etc .. but wanted PPP cos it seems quite cheap for what it does. Added to that, LV seems to insurance the thing as a normal WRX...... and its capable of sub 5 seconds !!!

Crazy !!!! - (but nice)

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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Nope i take that back the sti ppp figures are posted seperatley
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Mark a quote from EVO "A Genuine performance bargain"
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Jasoon,

Yes, it's the Prodrive quick shift - in a moment of weakness I ordered it fitted. I like it, very positive feel, and while it encourages a two step move because of the very direct action (into neutral, then into gear), if you are feeling "enthusiastic" and keeping the revs up, it changes very quickly without even a hint of hesitation.

Mark,

Biggest factor with the PPP is the extra tourque. 25% up on standard, and it pulls away in second without needing more than 1500 rpm. The standard version is very weak at low revs. LV definitely insure it for the same as the standard car.

Go for it.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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I'm thinking of getting the quickshift at first service....
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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Sti ppp does it in 4.6 according to a recent edition of classic car magazine if its any interest
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Old May 19, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Delta dash figures off mine also confirm the Prodrive table in gear times as well.


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Old May 20, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Does it not help that the WRX is nearly 100 kilo's lighter than an STi ?
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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Personally, i'd take the 4.8 time with a pinch of salt.
I have tried it with a stopwatch (I know not the most accurate way - but if anything it should give a faster time) and I struggled to match the standard time of 5.5!!

But then my car has had some rather dissapointing results on a Rolling Road which Subaru refuse to do anything about.

Frenchboy (WRX03ppp 8500miles on the clock and no there wasnt any "Heatsoak" when it was tested!!)
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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Frenchboy,
Have you got delta dash and any output from it?
Send it over and I can compare with mine to see if there's anything obviously wrong?
Which rolling road did you use?

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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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Nick,

it was G-Force in Aylesbury. I havent got the output from the RR, all i have is the printouts.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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They have a reputation for having a tough RR?
I've had mine done at Power Engineering and confirms Prodrive figures so perhaps I'll try G Force to see what it does.

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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Nick,

let me know when you are going as it would be interesting to have both our cars down there to compare.

feel free to PM me.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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i have a MY02 STI and it gets to 60 in second gear with 3 being good for @ 95 4 being good for 125 5th for 140 and 6th to infinity & beyond..... all indicated speedo reading....
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