Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

Will Optimax make it faster?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:41 PM
  #1  
conalex's Avatar
conalex
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Question Will Optimax make it faster?

Apologies if this is a stupid question but I have just been told by a mechanic that fuel with a higher Octane rating wont necessarily make your car faster.

I currently own a UK MY96 and have been using Super Unleaded (97 Ron?). A friend of mine then pointed out to me that Shell Optimax is 98 Ron and a better fuel. I just assumed that the higher the Octane rating the better the performance of my car, but apparently it won't make any difference.

The car will be a little more responsive and the Mpg will improve but the performance wont. This is down to the fact that a UK car will be set up to use normal Unleaded rated at 95 Ron, and not anything higher.

Is this true or is this mechanic talking out of his @rse?
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:46 PM
  #2  
16vmarc's Avatar
16vmarc
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 10,059
Likes: 0
From: Shell Garage, York
Default

Using Optimax will just optimise (no pun) the power available to the car.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:47 PM
  #3  
little_idiot's Avatar
little_idiot
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
From: Teesside
Default

all i know is that on my my99 scoob inside the petrol filer door there is a label that says 'super unleaded only', i think the higher octane fuel reduces the chance of det and is on the whole better for your engine, could be wrong though

James
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:47 PM
  #4  
16vmarc's Avatar
16vmarc
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 10,059
Likes: 0
From: Shell Garage, York
Default

As your car has a knock senser the car will adjust the fueling to suit a higher octane rating, so you will benefit.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 05:15 PM
  #5  
Harry_Boy's Avatar
Harry_Boy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,400
Likes: 0
From: WYIOC. The Foxglove, Kirkburton, Huddersfield.
Default

It will need an ECU reset to benefit fully from the new fuel though.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:32 PM
  #6  
Leslie's Avatar
Leslie
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 39,877
Likes: 0
Default

If nothing else, it will go a long way to protecting your engine from the killer detonation if you really wind it up often enough. As also stated, it will prevent the standard knock sensor from retarding the ignition and thus will keep power levels up.

Les
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:12 AM
  #7  
harvey's Avatar
harvey
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 10,419
Likes: 1
From: Darlington
Default

Optimax will not make it any faster but it will reduce the possibility of det.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:35 AM
  #8  
reddishhhblue's Avatar
reddishhhblue
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by harvey
Optimax will not make it any faster but it will reduce the possibility of det.
it made my car Go 100 mph faster. And it made it handle better. And you won't believe this, but it also made me a better driver. This fuel is unbelievable, it also made my car shinier, and the interior smell is better than it used to be, and you want to see the birds I pull now they used to be quite largely but now they're very slim and I put it down to the fuel I'm using not the car I'm driving incidentally. This fuel debate gets very boring I drive a Ford Maxi along with my Cortina mark 4 .its personal preference each to the own stop going on about it
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:38 AM
  #9  
scrappydoo's Avatar
scrappydoo
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 0
Default

I use 1 tank of optimax to about every 3-4 tanks of Super in the Evo and Civic type R. I have done many tests and both cars are alot more responsive on Optimax. But hey its up to you.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:56 AM
  #10  
redwrx's Avatar
redwrx
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,381
Likes: 0
From: Cheshire
Default

Ive got an my93wrx....and my car doesnt like optimax..... i reckon i lose around 3 mpg with it...no, its not alot but its over 10% when i can return around 25 mpg with NUL....and i dont think it really helps the performance that much.

So as pointed out, i think its down to personal preference and your car set-up..


Frank
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:58 PM
  #11  
Subarstar's Avatar
Subarstar
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: Glasgow
Default

Does disconnecting the battery reset your ECU?

Is all super unleaded the same and is it OK to mix it with super from other suppliers if your usual garage is closed?
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:20 PM
  #12  
greasemonkey's Avatar
greasemonkey
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,122
Likes: 0
From: where the wild roses grow
Default

Disconnecting the battery will reset the ECU on an older shape car, providing it's left off long enough. However, the best and fastest way of doing it is detailed here.
There's no similar way to reset the ECU on the new age cars without using some sort of external device, but there's no need to reset on fuel grounds anyway as the new age ECU's adapt extremely quickly to changing fuel grades.

Mixing different brands of super unleaded is obviously better than running out of fuel, but there's plenty of evidence to suggest that all brands of Super are not the same (and indeed one fill of Optimax may not be quite the same as the next).

In these cases a KnockLink is always extremely useful in giving you a real-time visual indication of how your car is coping
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JimBowen
ICE
5
Jul 2, 2023 01:54 PM
Frizzle-Dee
Essex Subaru Owners Club
13
Dec 1, 2015 09:37 AM
Sam Witwicky
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
17
Nov 13, 2015 10:49 AM
alcazar
Non Scooby Related
37
Sep 27, 2015 10:35 PM
Pro-Line Motorsport
Car Parts For Sale
0
Sep 27, 2015 11:23 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:11 PM.