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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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if they are so good who can honestly say they have not and will not alter anything from what should be standard?just interested as to how many standard cars are left out there??????makes you wonder why they don't ask ex owners how to build doesn't it??mainly the same mods every one does anyway!!by the way my car is not as subaru intended either!so how many un modded motors on scoobynet??
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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The very same could be asked of Cosworths and Evos
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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yeh suppose ya right..crazy though in it!?
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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Had my P1 now for nearly 2 years and still not modded...

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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nothing at all???you sure!!
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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its not just subaru drivers who mod their cars,virtually every other type of car on the road has had people doing some sort of mod to it plus if you could just hand pick the specification of you subaru how expensive do think it would be, the price of a decent front mount bigger turbo and bigger injectors etc with the guarantee it wont blow from subaru would be damned expensive
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:52 PM
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agree with you..just interested how many standard ones there are out there??
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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P1_BEN the P1 don't really need modifing anyway i had one all i would do is change the down pipe
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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On the classics, its usually the following (in no particular order)

1. Full Decat
2. Bigger Brakes
3. Bigger Wheels
4. Remap
5. Knocklnk
6. Gauges
7. Colour Coded skirts, mirrors and handles
8. Bigger rear Spoiler
9. Front Splitter
10. Uprated Suspension
11. Strut Braces

theres more too

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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My MY00 Classic Wagon is as supplied by Subaru. Not quite out of the box standard, but the mods were all factory or dealer fitted prior to delivery, short throw gear change, leather interior and larger "gold" wheels (I got it second hand).

OK I lied, extas include:
Dog guard
CD changer
Tracker
Road Angel
PDA Based SAT Nav


[Edited by OllyK - 12/17/2003 5:17:16 PM]
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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The very same could be asked of Cosworths and Evos
evos don't seem to get modded as much as scoobs because there is less wrong with them as standard ie: 276bhp, 17" wheels big spoiler etc

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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That's why Evo's cost more Paul !!
Modding is down to personal choice and how much you can afford to throw at a car - personally I love the Scoob image and I'm really enjoying the 'minor' mods I've had done !!
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Mostly car nutts buy scoob's, and naturally car nutts like to muck around with cars....
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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not a thing
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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They are very good but modding makes them better - its the same for almost any car if you mod very carefully
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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I have a standard STI 8 - no mods as yet....

Any suggestions apart from PPP ..?

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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I had a MY01 WRX and changed everything possible on it, well almost. Then realised what a waste of time it was and got a P1 which will be staying standard.

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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My R.A. is as it left the factory apart from the alarm and tracker, oh and the bu66ered central locking.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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so not as it left the factory then?

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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I think that every single Impreza around my area has been modded, even the sports going about seem to have clear indicators and back boxes!

Funnily enough, the Subaru dealer always has plenty standard ones... hmmmm?
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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evos don't seem to get modded as much as scoobs because there is less wrong with them as standard ie: 276bhp, 17" wheels big spoiler etc

Paul
Thats just blown the whole argument for 99% of people buying one. Go onto the MLR and see how many are standard .


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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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My STI Type RA is still as STI intended. I think the only thing i'll end up changing is the back box. the STI back box just doesnt let enough burble through. Oh, and i might add the central locking back in too. Family is p1ssed at having to wait in the cold and rain for me to lean over and open all the doors!
I would like to get a remap done but i need a new ECU for that and cant really justify the £1500 quid when im satisfied with the performance out of the box .
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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If Mr Subaru sold the impreza with all bits on it then he'd have to do away with his money making acessesories catalogue, i.e. PPP and such like.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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My WRX01 is standard and i had no intention of modifying it until I found this website. After reading all the different threads on the power people are getting from their scoobys. I now want to modify mine. I believe the costs are fairly cheap to get a substantial increase compared to other cars. I think everyone wants to go faster and be better than the cars on the road, otherwise why would you buy a scooby in the 1st place??
Its all about recognition whether in the scooby community or on the road!!
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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so there arn't many that are or taht will be left alone then!
another one that puzzles me is that if the "fmic" give such good results how come sti road cars don't have em fitted?
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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I was the same 4 yeasrs ago alwong, damn the internet
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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STi8 uNmoDded But I miGhT haVe tO gEt the sPrIng CoNvERsiOn donE

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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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Its the classic 'Max Power' brigade.
Most of us grow out of it by the time we reach 20

STI7 standard of course (nothing to with the warranty, honest)
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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I blame scoobynet ... i had my 93wrx for 18months, and the only thing i changed was the oil ...... then i logged onto scoobynet, went to a couple of meets, and now ive got this strange modding bug..!!!


So, if Mr Subaru put all the mods onto the car at the showroom, apart from them costing a mint, there's still always someone who's going to come along and devise something.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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the reaon why so few cars are totally standard is that even manufacturers like subaru ( as well as mitsubishi, bmw, and to a lesser extent ferrair lamborghini etc) have to make compromises on the car to fuel efficiency, emissions, engine wear and tear, etc.

the reaon why people mod them is that that they accept that these compromises have to be done and then just say 'fu*k it, ill do it anyway', for performance, individuality and for the fact that they know theyll probably be a slight bit quicker than the next scooby.

'standard cars...just say no!!!!'
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