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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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I am considering experimenting with the addition of toulene to my fuel , perhaps achieving a 102-103 octane fuel.My question is , can I continue to raise advance to a limit that is only governed by the onset of knock or do other factors prohibit this philosophy?
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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yeah.. the piston still being on the exhaust stroke
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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So where are you getting toulene, or even toluene as we chemists call it?
That stuff is a serious cancer risk and is being, or has been, withdrawn. Ditto benzene, also used as an octane booster.
We have had to find safer substitutes for laboratory use.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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If you have any respect for the environment & the people in it, please don't use toluene. As posted, highly carcinogenic.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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The attached data sheet suggests that toluene is not a risk as you guys have indicated.Of course I would not use if as lethal as suggested.

http://www.temarry.com/MSDS/Toluene_msds.htm
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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It is/was a suspected cancer risk (as is going to bed late, eating sugar & breathing too much air ) but there's no actual evidence, just guesswork. Given the amount used, I don't think it would be a risk to anyone, even if it was a cancer risk, as long as use wasn't widespread.
For all we know, standard boosters are a huge health risk, but no-one has found out what yet.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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Industrial paint stripper's pretty much pure toluene (methylbenzene to give it's more modern name)....

It is nasty stuff though - don't get it on your skin, as it'll soak straight through and poison you...

Rich.
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