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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 08:47 PM
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Right I appreciate how much of a daft question this is on the face of it but bare with me.

At the moment I've got an 07 GB270 that's had all the sensible chassis mods done I.e. Coilovers, AP brakes, braided hoses, whiteline ARB and rear alloy droplinks. Problem is I'm now thinking about upping the power and the potential for gearbox/engine issues stands out in my mind. Then I got browsing the Hurst Cars site and they've got a JDM hawk STi coming in that's caught my eye.

So am I best off keeping the money and addressing the potential engine/transmission issues of the GB270 should they arise, or does it make more sense to trade it in against the JDM hawk?
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JDM, cheap road tax, reliable engine, not a tarted up WRX, win win situation!!!
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 08:59 PM
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See the Hurst car first.
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JDM, cheap road tax, reliable engine, not a tarted up WRX, win win situation!!!
As he says
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 09:02 PM
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Get a JDM Hawk WRX and run it at 400/350. Beat everything.
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Get a JDM Hawk WRX and run it at 400/350. Beat everything.
Why a JDM hawk WRX??? its not a twin scroll 2 litre like the STi, im pretty sure its the 2.5 sh1te engine, as the WRX is the car you pick if your a OAP and you dont want a fast car but you want 4wd so you dont get stuck in the snow.

And why would you import a WRX?? You would pay so much in shipping, import costs etc etc it would be a £10k car once in the UK and £10k could get you a proper Impreza.
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 10:41 PM
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Get a JDM Hawk WRX and run it at 400/350. Beat everything.
Yeah ok!
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Not all JDM hawks are in the cheap tax band, It depends when they were registered

What size AP`s did you get?
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Not all JDM hawks are in the cheap tax band, It depends when they were registered

What size AP`s did you get?
My mate has a JDM hawk thats 140quid for the year the lucky b4stard. But im guessing it depends what plate they put it on when registered, like the UK cars 55 plate and pre March 23rd?? early 06 plate cars are cheaper like the UK blobs!!!
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yep, Mine is april 2006...what a ****!
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
Not all JDM hawks are in the cheap tax band, It depends when they were registered

What size AP`s did you get?
I've got the CP6600 (4 pot) calipers with 330mm discs, which i'm led to believe gives performance similar to the Brembos using the same discs.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Right I appreciate how much of a daft question this is on the face of it but bare with me.

At the moment I've got an 07 GB270 that's had all the sensible chassis mods done I.e. Coilovers, AP brakes, braided hoses, whiteline ARB and rear alloy droplinks. Problem is I'm now thinking about upping the power and the potential for gearbox/engine issues stands out in my mind. Then I got browsing the Hurst Cars site and they've got a JDM hawk STi coming in that's caught my eye.

So am I best off keeping the money and addressing the potential engine/transmission issues of the GB270 should they arise, or does it make more sense to trade it in against the JDM hawk?
No brainer, get yourself to Hurst Cars.
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by huzzy1
No brainer, get yourself to Hurst Cars.
You reckon? Thing is i've got the chassis of the GB into a reasonable state now, so it is really only the engine/transmission that's got me looking.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
You reckon? Thing is i've got the chassis of the GB into a reasonable state now, so it is really only the engine/transmission that's got me looking.
Sti is a totally different car,don't listen to the idiots that tell you otherwise,get too Hurst and try it yourself.
Another point is do what you like too the wrx and when you sell it,it's still a wrx and this reflects in the price.
The sti will hold its value, more so a jdm version
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Originally Posted by neil-h
You reckon? Thing is i've got the chassis of the GB into a reasonable state now, so it is really only the engine/transmission that's got me looking.
Take the uprated parts off and return it to OEM. GB270's command a half decent price. Return it to standard and get that Hawkeye!!
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If your Wrx is in good condition why change it for a unknown?

I looked at a spec c etc but I am glad I kept my Wrx dropped a 2.35 and a 6 speed in.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Sti is a totally different car,don't listen to the idiots that tell you otherwise,get too Hurst and try it yourself.
Another point is do what you like too the wrx and when you sell it,it's still a wrx and this reflects in the price.
The sti will hold its value, more so a jdm version
How is it different? He has APs and good coilovers sounds like all he needs is a 6speed and a sticker to make him feel like a big boy!
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
How is it different? He has APs and good coilovers sounds like all he needs is a 6speed and a sticker to make him feel like a big boy!
So all he needs is an engine,gearbox and rear diff.
Not much then
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
So all he needs is an engine,gearbox and rear diff.
Not much then
Hence my problem, i'm looking at 2.5k for the 6 speed conversion and a forged build on the engine is realistically more than the cars worth.

This is the car on Hursts site that I'm referring to by the way. Can't say i'm a fan of the wing but that's easily sorted.

http://www.hurstcars.co.uk/used-cars...01501210339359

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Originally Posted by neil-h
Hence my problem, i'm looking at 2.5k for the 6 speed conversion and a forged build on the engine is realistically more than the cars worth.
Take off the good bits,return to original, sell it,buy the car at Hurst.
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I'd say drive the Spec C first as from what I can tell they're not for everyone. then take a look at the numbers £££ is going to be the key really, I presume the Spec C is around the £15k mark, also intended use.

Then if you decide to go for the Spec C as above remove your AP's which are the same as mine and better than the brembos, if you like your coilovers and other chassis mods transfer them to the Spec C.

To me it's the cost to change and what you get for that cost that would be the deciding factor along with how well it suits your needs, it's not all about letters, it's about the numbers.

I do agree though that the WRX will always be just a modded WRX, the question to ask is, do you care.

P.S; JDM WRX is 2.0L with avcs heads.

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I'd say drive the Spec C first as from what I can tell they're not for everyone. then take a look at the numbers £££ is going to be the key really, I presume the Spec C is around the £15k mark, also intended use.

Then if you decide to go for the Spec C as above remove your AP's which are the same as mine and better than the brembos, if you like your coilovers and other chassis mods transfer them to the Spec C.

To me it's the cost to change and what you get for that cost that would be the deciding factor along with how well it suits your needs, it's not all about letters, it's about the numbers.

I do agree though that the WRX will always be just a modded WRX, the question to ask is, do you care.

P.S; JDM WRX is 2.0L with avcs heads.
Problem is later stis are 114 pcd and not 100 like the wrx so discs and coilovers won't fit
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Problem is later stis are 114 pcd and not 100 like the wrx so discs and coilovers won't fit
The discs are 2 piece, so if i'm really desperate I could just swap the bells for 114pcd versions. Would leave the coilovers on the car as they were fitted to replace nackered shocks and they're only cheap BC's so they aren't the best in the world.

So would the ARBs and rear droplinks fit the STI or are they different?
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Originally Posted by neil-h
The discs are 2 piece, so if i'm really desperate I could just swap the bells for 114pcd versions. Would leave the coilovers on the car as they were fitted to replace nackered shocks and they're only cheap BC's so they aren't the best in the world.

So would the ARBs and rear droplinks fit the STI or are they different?
Both different
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Read my JDM Hawk project thread and "just do it".
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Both different
Had a feeling they would be. Never mind, there's always eBay and the joys of sticking the OE ones in the loft.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Read my JDM Hawk project thread and "just do it".
Just been looking at your thread Shaun, am i right in thinking your Sti didn't have dccd?
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What made you think that?

Yes - it had DCCD.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
What made you think that?

Yes - it had DCCD.
Think it was just a misunderstanding reading your thread. No worries.

Have to say the temptation is growing, seeing one pop up in the right colour has certainly got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I'd say drive the Spec C first as from what I can tell they're not for everyone. then take a look at the numbers £££ is going to be the key really, I presume the Spec C is around the £15k mark, also intended use.

Then if you decide to go for the Spec C as above remove your AP's which are the same as mine and better than the brembos, if you like your coilovers and other chassis mods transfer them to the Spec C.

To me it's the cost to change and what you get for that cost that would be the deciding factor along with how well it suits your needs, it's not all about letters, it's about the numbers.

I do agree though that the WRX will always be just a modded WRX, the question to ask is, do you care.

P.S; JDM WRX is 2.0L with avcs heads.
It's not a Spec C?????
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