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Old 17 March 2014, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I have posted many times on here about what I think needs to be done. Not going through it all again.

What I will ay is I certainly don't want any more of the Tories or Labour (the Lib Dems are an irrelevance or will be in about a year's time) as their sell by date is long past!

To my mind we need a party of common sense and one that acts for the people of the UK not the good of its own. We need honesty and transparency and we need to be in charge of our own destiny. Why we can't trade with our European cousins withut having to be virtually governed by them on many issues is beyond me.

UKIP may not be perfect and may in many cases not align themselves to my views, but they represent a real shot at giving the greedy self serving mainstream parties a seriously bloody nose and many of their policies (e.g. energy) do on the whole make sense to me.

Immigration is not an issue I feel particularly upset about, but seeing as we are already governed by a party committed to getting net immigration down to less than 100K per year (and failing dismally despite their stupid protestations otherwise) what difference does it make in that respect?

Let's try something different, it can't really be any worse!
I assume it's not lost upon you that UKIP are basically a Thatcherite party - you know that the same 'rot in hell' Thatcher you were on about?
Old 17 March 2014, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I assume it's not lost upon you that UKIP are basically a Thatcherite party - you know that the same 'rot in hell' Thatcher you were on about?
You mean they are right wing, it's not the same as Thatcherite! After all 18 years of her government and we were still in the EU, I suspect we wouldn't be if UKIP got elected.

Sorry, but they are not really comparable for a number of different reasons!
Old 17 March 2014, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I'm all for change (assuming it's for the better).

UKIP are neither 'a change' or 'better'. In fact they are largely a party for angry white men.
Make that old, angry white men
Old 17 March 2014, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Yes that's right, the only way you can possible argue against me is to attempt to portray my moderate views as extreme - well it won't work matey.

Do you actually HAVE views?

Apart from "No it isn't, no it doesn't, no it won't" that is?
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