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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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Agreed but why? They can make it just as fast with a petrol motor so why all the batteries? Seems pointless to me,and did I hear it only has 6 miles on electric power? Awesome looking car and great technology but what is the gain?
Partly to push hybrid tech forwards and partly to show that you can use electric power to enhance the performance as well as look after the polar bears (as Clarkson said). Also the car is light (relatively) so the fuel efficiency for a supercar is way beyond what most can achieve! Don't forget the fuel efficiency recommendations for the future are getting tightened all the time by our 'friends' at the EU ahead of new regulations coming to a police state near you real soon!

With the engine and electric motors working together the car has the equivalent of 903bhp which as it weighs no more than a family hatchback makes for rather interesting performance

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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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Why go through all the bother of the mid engine and Carbon fiber chassis and only give it 230BHP though. A bit of a waste TBF.
agreed, but its blown so will be easy to tweak...maybe.

P1 was amazing, could have done the whole show on that I think imo...bloody hope the Porsche is faster though
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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The P1 was epic; maybe a little low though?!

That Alfa is pretty IMO but some reviews suggest handling isn't what it should be. And £45k for a 1.7 litre four pot? Ouch!
It's great that Alfa has made a decent(ish) car again after decades of turds dressed up as sporty cars.
I'd still rather have our little hatch though. If I wanted a sports car, I'd go Boxster or Caterham.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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P1 was amazing, could have done the whole show on that I think imo...bloody hope the Porsche is faster though
Siding with the Germans over the English?! Shocking
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:35 AM
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Siding with the Germans over the English?! Shocking
I want to see Clarkson change his name to Jennifer
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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Agreed but why? They can make it just as fast with a petrol motor so why all the batteries? Seems pointless to me,and did I hear it only has 6 miles on electric power? Awesome looking car and great technology but what is the gain?
If you had listened to the whole feature you would then have heard the motors are to fill in the gaps for turbo lag etc,
also the technology would have been useful practise for Mclaren for this years F1, getting your head around the technology in day to day use will have been useful to them.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:40 AM
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I want to see Clarkson change his name to Jennifer
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:41 AM
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and Alfa need to lob 15k off the price and it would be the daddy of its class against the low powered GT and BRZ.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Oh my. Presumably the poor woman is an MP now?
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Did I miss something? Why didn't the Alfa have a timed lap?
May be the weather but they didn't mention it did they?
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Why go through all the bother of the mid engine and Carbon fiber chassis and only give it 230BHP though. A bit of a waste TBF.
Think Lotus Elise/Exige (but a little bit plusher!)
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:01 PM
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So Subaru had nothing to say about using the 'P1' model name. Surprised no one has mentioned this.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Think Lotus Elise/Exige (but a little bit plusher!)
Thats actually what it reminded of of when I looked at the shape of it, would rather have the Lotus any day of the week TBH though.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Think Lotus Elise/Exige (but a little bit plusher!)
The inside of my Peacocks £5 shoe is plusher than that of an Elise/Exige.

The Alfa does 60 in 4.5s and 170mph - hardly slow.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Thats actually what it reminded of of when I looked at the shape of it, would rather have the Lotus any day of the week TBH though.
This ^^^^^^
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
So Subaru had nothing to say about using the 'P1' model name. Surprised no one has mentioned this.
I should think not, it's a bloody compliment given the fact the McLaren is just so jawdropping!
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Thats actually what it reminded of of when I looked at the shape of it, would rather have the Lotus any day of the week TBH though.
Maybe, I would think that the Alfa, being less hardcore than an Exige would be easier to live with everyday, for that reason I'd probably take the Alfa, plus it looks much sexier!
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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I've been offered the option of taking a 4C in August/September - I'd toyed with going back to an Exige a few months back, but as I'm not getting any younger and my back isn't so flexible now, an Exige is almost out the question.

The 4C might just do it for me, although I agree that £45k+ is too much.

I may end up regretting selling my Boxster for one.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I should think not, it's a bloody compliment given the fact the McLaren is just so jawdropping!
Dead right. Astonishing.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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Dross so far
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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A bit poor this week .......
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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Same old, same old, same old ....... but I'm still watching it -
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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I did laugh when Hammond pulled off the visor... and then ate it!
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
So Subaru had nothing to say about using the 'P1' model name. Surprised no one has mentioned this.

I doubt Subaru would have an opinion, the P1 was a Prodrive creation
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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I did laugh when Hammond pulled off the visor... and then ate it!


Yeah that was the highlight of the show really


nothing more than cabaret now

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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I should think not, it's a bloody compliment given the fact the McLaren is just so jawdropping!
Can see the pub talk now!!

"So, what do you drive ?"
"I've got a P1"
"Wow, McLaren? Nice."
"No, Subaru"
"Ahh. Oh wait, wasn't that the STI 5? But more expensive?"


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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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.........and not as good
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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They've employed a grinning mexican mannequin to get you through the "news" section


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Cracking 147, Ronnie.
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And a cracking 120mph spin in a BM
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