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Old 17 January 2014, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I've said it before, I'll say it again:
Don't we bloody know it. You're like a broken record.

Next time you need help in an emergency or are a victim of crime, call one of the local crackheads.
Old 17 January 2014, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Its about 7-8 weeks for DNA to come back - chances are the body was DNA'd and they were waiting for the results to come back to match against the missing person list. It won't be as simple as assuming its him because the description matches.

What was the argument over - noisy exhaust? i take it that it never got as far as court then.
it was about 3months, they where looking for someone called gordon because the body had a gold id braclet on saying gordon, the bloke from wales had a braclet on with gordon on it as it was his fathers, all the description of body including braclet was in our local paper,as was the description of mark from wales on missing persons, and the wife just remembered reading it, and put 2n2 together, his body washed over with the tides from swansea to minehead, as for the legal exhaust yes it never got to court, shame as i wanted to expose him for the lying piece of sh1te he is, he spoke to me like a kid, and i am old enough to be his father, some of them forget far to often they are public servant's not rulers
Old 17 January 2014, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
Don't we bloody know it. You're like a broken record.

Next time you need help in an emergency or are a victim of crime, call one of the local crackheads.
I would certainly no longer bother with the police. Been let down too often.

YOU lick their @rses if you want. I won't.
Old 17 January 2014, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I would certainly no longer bother with the police. Been let down too often.
Same here, I find dealing with their incompetence more traumatic than dealing with the crime itself.
Old 17 January 2014, 08:27 PM
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I personally don't like the police I'm yet to meet a nice friendly copper always arrogant and moody I'm a high court sheriff and deal with the police quite a lot in my line of work and they are always proper grumpy and unhelpful
Old 17 January 2014, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
The gatso's are quite interesting - a lot prefer this method than having an officer pulling you over and finding all sorts of other things wrong with your car and 'doing you' for that too. People think "if I've gone too fast - send me the bill and i'll pay it". The alternative will be to post an officer at an accident point and pull drivers over. The problem being is whilst he speaks with a driver, others can safely 'speed' past; and then would you expect him to respond to other 'more serious' jobs if they come in....?
can a Gatso tell if the driver is drunk?
if driver is insured to drive the vehicle?
has drugs in the car?

a Gatso takes away the personal approach, it has a set limit, you go over the limit, you get a ticket. you can be stoned or drunk, swerving all over, carrying a couple of 9 bars of crack in the boot and it will never know, a copper might catch the offender

other thing, if there were loads of coppers out and about, do you think it might deter a lot of the offenders in the first place?
Old 17 January 2014, 09:45 PM
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what about the bridge in York http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/1081...s_near_26_000/

it's not the police, but enforcement cameras none the less.

why close the main traffic route into the city?

if they want to stop the normal motorist entering, why not have someone like a lollypop person stopping people before they get fined?

but 'NO', most traffic still goes over the bridge, but the council gets paid the fines

instead of stopping the offence occurring, they let the offence happen, then get paid for it
Old 17 January 2014, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Thats in a different country WTF does it have to do with us?
Exactly, if it was england those cops would of had seven shades of **** kicked out of them.
Old 17 January 2014, 11:29 PM
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You lot have no idea how to deal with the police do you.

Politely but firmly let them know that you'll be having none of their ****, if they start getting lippy ask them if this is the way they usually speak to a member of the public, then take their number and name (a serving officer cannot refuse to give you this ) once they know that you know you can **** with them they generally change their tune.

If they're decent to begin with then be polite and befriend them, they usually get so much **** that they are pleased to be treated as a human being, it's basic psychology 101, like I said before they are simple creatures, treat them like a dog, pat on the head for a good boy and a tug on the leash for a bad one.
Old 18 January 2014, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave
what about the bridge in York http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/1081...s_near_26_000/

it's not the police, but enforcement cameras none the less.

why close the main traffic route into the city?

if they want to stop the normal motorist entering, why not have someone like a lollypop person stopping people before they get fined?

but 'NO', most traffic still goes over the bridge, but the council gets paid the fines

instead of stopping the offence occurring, they let the offence happen, then get paid for it
That bridge closure is nothing more than a money making scam by YCC. A 3 month report shows that some journey times have increased yet the car hating council still say that it's being successful. Can't remember the specific figures, but something like 3500 motorists were caught in Nov alone.

Me and the Mrs used to go into York quite often to go shopping, but we stopped about 4 years ago when the car parking cost hit £9 and the propaganda being sprouted told us to use the park and ride. However the park and ride is not so attractive when you're stood in a queue with 60-70 other people in the pi55ing rain and a pushchair, knowing full well that you'll not get on the next bus.
Old 18 January 2014, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by craigybaby
I personally don't like the police I'm yet to meet a nice friendly copper always arrogant and moody I'm a high court sheriff and deal with the police quite a lot in my line of work and they are always proper grumpy and unhelpful
Must be the place you are in. We deal with loads or sheriffs and balifs and get on fine with all of them
Old 18 January 2014, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave
can a Gatso tell if the driver is drunk?
if driver is insured to drive the vehicle?
has drugs in the car?

a Gatso takes away the personal approach, it has a set limit, you go over the limit, you get a ticket. you can be stoned or drunk, swerving all over, carrying a couple of 9 bars of crack in the boot and it will never know, a copper might catch the offender

other thing, if there were loads of coppers out and about, do you think it might deter a lot of the offenders in the first place?
No, but then people start to complain when police keep stopping cars all the time. There has been loads of comments on here about being stopped for 'no apparent reason'. I take it you will be against ANPR cameras too, as they will flag up uninsured, no MOT and no TAX as well as speed; and although they will not pick up drink drivers and drug dealers - it will pick up convoy information, where and when the cars are being used etc etc

Yes - i agree it would be better if there were loads of coppers about, but we are normally down to the bare minimum and facing more cuts. How many would you want/expect to be parked up just dealing with speeding matters? And would you allow them to be diverted if something 'more serious' comes in..?
Old 18 January 2014, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
If they're decent to begin with then be polite and befriend them, they usually get so much **** that they are pleased to be treated as a human being, it's basic psychology 101, like I said before they are simple creatures, treat them like a dog, pat on the head for a good boy and a tug on the leash for a bad one.
Is this simplistic Ivan Pavlov view not the same for every person in all walks of life........
Old 18 January 2014, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
No, but then people start to complain when police keep stopping cars all the time. There has been loads of comments on here about being stopped for 'no apparent reason'. I take it you will be against ANPR cameras too, as they will flag up uninsured, no MOT and no TAX as well as speed; and although they will not pick up drink drivers and drug dealers - it will pick up convoy information, where and when the cars are being used etc etc

Yes - i agree it would be better if there were loads of coppers about, but we are normally down to the bare minimum and facing more cuts. How many would you want/expect to be parked up just dealing with speeding matters? And would you allow them to be diverted if something 'more serious' comes in..?
I wish there were ANPR cameras all over, every motorway slip road should have one. the only people against them are people with something to hide. it would disrupt and inconvenience criminals. the only problem with that is there would need to be more police ready to deal with the alerts. any vehicle that's not insured, taxed, no MOT, no registered keeper, etc, should all be stopped to prove who's driving and then detained. should be 3 strikes and you're out and 5 years inside, see how many continue after they have been caught twice.....
Old 18 January 2014, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave
I wish there were ANPR cameras all over, every motorway slip road should have one. the only people against them are people with something to hide. it would disrupt and inconvenience criminals. the only problem with that is there would need to be more police ready to deal with the alerts. any vehicle that's not insured, taxed, no MOT, no registered keeper, etc, should all be stopped to prove who's driving and then detained. should be 3 strikes and you're out and 5 years inside, see how many continue after they have been caught twice.....
+1 been hit with a woman no licence no insurance, she was in distress, told her don't worry only lumps of metal that insurance will fix or scrap as long as we are not hurt ....she totalled my car, the cops came after tea to tell me she was not insured I kind of wished she got hurt in the crash. C*nts that drive with no insurance should never drive again,

I am older and wiser and have grandkids and now drive on nettles giving every car round me extra attention when they are in the car.

I recon in 20 years time if you are not 100% legal if you pass a ANPR camera your ECU will shut down.
Old 18 January 2014, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by daviee

I recon in 20 years time if you are not 100% legal if you pass a ANPR camera your ECU will shut down.
I hope you're right!
Old 18 January 2014, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by daviee
I recon in 20 years time if you are not 100% legal if you pass a ANPR camera your ECU will shut down.
it's a good idea and I hope you're correct

I think if it was introduced some low life computer experts would find a way around it
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Is this simplistic Ivan Pavlov view not the same for every person in all walks of life........
Absolutely, which is why I said it was basic 101.

Meet the world with a smile. :

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Old 19 January 2014, 09:35 AM
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Its interesting to see people's perceptions, but the poll only reflects personal experiences. That can vary hugely depending on how the individual has dealt with the officer in question, their expectations from the police to meet their perceived needs, in what context they have had dealt with them and in what area they live in, e.g. in Kent the model is to send an officer to every person who is a victim of crime regardless of solvability. In West Yorkshire time is spent in pursuing crimes with a higher solvability chance. Other areas may priorities higher profile cases or repeat issues. Where your personal circumstances fit in at any given time has a significant impact on your perception of the police.

In amongst that you do, of course, get the individual who has been in the job too long, had a fall out with the wife that morning etc or is perhaps just an arrogant bully. This is human nature, regardless of professionalism unfortunately. While they let the rest of the Police service down I believe they are in the very small minority.
Old 19 January 2014, 01:52 PM
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When you need them, they are nowhere to be seen/don't want to know; but when you don't want them to be there they turn up en mass.
Old 19 January 2014, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
If they're decent to begin with then be polite and befriend them, they usually get so much **** that they are pleased to be treated as a human being, it's basic psychology 101, like I said before they are simple creatures, treat them like a dog, pat on the head for a good boy and a tug on the leash for a bad one.
Agreed. Only had a couple of encounters with the police and they've been fine. Just don't be an ****, it's dead easy really.
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