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Old 10 January 2014, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No f1_fan doesn't think otherwise as f1_fan was probably playing with Linux before you'd left school, but the fact remains that given the choice of Ubuntu on some cruddy piece of Chinese PC hardware or OSX on a nice shiny Apple Mac all installed out of the box with every question answered at your local Apple Store which one do you think most non-IT literate people who just need a computer for mundane day to day things are going to buy?

Hint, it's not the Ubuntu/Nicky Nacky Noo Corp. set-up!



Precisely, I'm out as obviously I know the square root of f**k all about ANYBODY
Fixed that for you.

ORLY? I left school in 1981, 10 years before linux, you assume way to much! So unless you were a time traveller I call BS.

Luckily everyone doesn't think like you or everyone would be using Apple products already. Baaaaaaa

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I remember when my Dad bought the third generation iPod in 2003 and I looked at it and just laughed. I didn't have much of a clue what MP3's were (I was using a mini-disc walkman back then ...they never caught on did they..) but I saw the potential of obviously not having to carry disc's around, and the design of it was very nice with the wheel. I then bought myself a first generation iPod mini in 2004. Been using Apple products since; I wouldn't call myself a fanboy though, I just like their products.

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I'm no fanboy as Jack Clark gets labelled the moment he posts anything. I had a 3GS and a iPhone 4. Now on Android (Nexus).
From a consumers perspective and not a 'geek' who doesn't know the intimate history of technology, my opinion is that by Apple releasing the iPhone (whether they copied others ideas or not) they almost definitely can be credited for influencing the smart phone revolution. There may have been phones released prior to the iPhone but it's the iPhone that brought the simple functionality to the masses on a platform that seemed infinitesimally more reliable than the Nokia symbian OS.
The iPhone was a revolution in mobile phones. It's a shame all iPhones since have been evolutions and I hate the kiddiefied look of the latest iOS.
However I, like many people (although not those that seem to be trolling this thread) have 'matured' and quite frankly all mobiles seem to be much of a muchness now and none of them excite like the first time I got hold of an iPhone.
Old 10 January 2014, 01:40 PM
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I love how you lot go off on me. Apparently by saying "well done Steve" I'm now sucking the **** of Jobs. LOL at you haters.

Ubuntu... LOL. I run more than one Ubuntu machine, it's a **** home operating system, just an awful user experience. Unfortunately for you tightwads you get what you pay for.
Old 10 January 2014, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
I'm no fanboy as Jack Clark gets labelled the moment he posts anything. I had a 3GS and a iPhone 4. Now on Android (Nexus).
From a consumers perspective and not a 'geek' who doesn't know the intimate history of technology, my opinion is that by Apple releasing the iPhone (whether they copied others ideas or not) they almost definitely can be credited for influencing the smart phone revolution. There may have been phones released prior to the iPhone but it's the iPhone that brought the simple functionality to the masses on a platform that seemed infinitesimally more reliable than the Nokia symbian OS.
The iPhone was a revolution in mobile phones. It's a shame all iPhones since have been evolutions and I hate the kiddiefied look of the latest iOS.
However I, like many people (although not those that seem to be trolling this thread) have 'matured' and quite frankly all mobiles seem to be much of a muchness now and none of them excite like the first time I got hold of an iPhone.
At last, a sensible reply.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I love how you lot go off on me. Apparently by saying "well done Steve" I'm now sucking the **** of Jobs. LOL at you haters.

Ubuntu... LOL. I run more than one Ubuntu machine, it's a **** home operating system, just an awful user experience. Unfortunately for you tightwads you get what you pay for.
Lol. Ubuntu is perfectly fine.

As for tightwads? Really?

iMac, Macbook Pro, iPad, 2 iPhones, iPod Touch, iPod, Ubuntu PC, Ubuntu Server, JoliOS netbook, Windows 7 netbook.

They all do what I require and they all do it without becoming a fanboy of Steve Jobs.

No-one is actually disputing the fact that Apple products are good, they work, and they work well.
Old 10 January 2014, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyNoob79
Anything in computing NOT influenced by Apple? Are you for f**king real? F**king retarded statement.
First commercial product to use a multi-panel window interface, that'd be Apple, everything afterwards was influenced by Apple's release. Have you ever heard the term 'Suck Lemons', because that's how I'm envisioning you right now. All screw faced.
Old 10 January 2014, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
First commercial product to use a multi-panel window interface, that'd be Apple, everything afterwards was influenced by Apple's release. Have you ever heard the term 'Suck Lemons', because that's how I'm envisioning you right now. All screw faced.
Hahaha, that's the best you can do? I suppose the 'dock' was Apples invention too?

I'll just leave this here...






Old 10 January 2014, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Well he did start the most powerful technology company in the world, I guess that should get a little credit. It's very difficult to find anything in computing that's not influenced by Apple.
I have to say, I see little influence of Apple in z/OS, Unix or Linux. Most big organisations are untouched by Apple.

However, Apple have obviously been influenced by people who have gone before them. I'm not saying people are not influenced by Apple, but they did not invent the technologies they use.
Old 10 January 2014, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
I have to say, I see little influence of Apple in z/OS, Unix or Linux. Most big organisations are untouched by Apple.
http://www.cups.org/

Just one of many.
Old 10 January 2014, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
my opinion is that by Apple releasing the iPhone (whether they copied others ideas or not) they almost definitely can be credited for influencing the smart phone revolution
100% agree, you would have to be blind not to agree, my suggestion is that this was more down to marketing than innovation, although some things they brought to the iphone certainly made the ride easier (multi-touch, a decent OS compared to previous products and a good level of user friendliness ie not having to use a stylus).

I can see all the good things Apple have done but just because they have done well doesn't mean they have done best. Fan is short for Fanatic and many Apple users are completely fanatical about the cult of Apple. The rest of us just evaluate the products and buy which suits. I still use my Ipod Video as however good other MP3 players are the ipod is still the most user friendly, but my Galaxy Note 2 spanks the iphone into as a Smartphone.
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Originally Posted by Galifrey
Fixed that for you.

ORLY? I left school in 1981, 10 years before linux, you assume way to much! So unless you were a time traveller I call BS.

Luckily everyone doesn't think like you or everyone would be using Apple products already. Baaaaaaa
You can see how I made the mistake though. For instance what mature intelligent person uses the expression 'ORLY?'? None in my considerable experience, in fact it's a good indicator that the person in question is a complete w4nker. Just saying

P.S. You're also wrong on your supposition about my thinking on Apple products. However, forgive me for not elaborating, but time is too precious to waste any more of it on the likes of you Mr ORLY?
Old 10 January 2014, 02:34 PM
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3 pages already, nice one jack
Old 10 January 2014, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Galifrey
100% agree, you would have to be blind not to agree, my suggestion is that this was more down to marketing than innovation, although some things they brought to the iphone certainly made the ride easier (multi-touch, a decent OS compared to previous products and a good level of user friendliness ie not having to use a stylus).

I can see all the good things Apple have done but just because they have done well doesn't mean they have done best. Fan is short for Fanatic and many Apple users are completely fanatical about the cult of Apple. The rest of us just evaluate the products and buy which suits. I still use my Ipod Video as however good other MP3 players are the ipod is still the most user friendly, but my Galaxy Note 2 spanks the iphone into as a Smartphone.
So funny. It's just Marketing... well apart from this innovation and that innovation. Fanatical would be defined as your reaction to this thread, just shocking really. And then to blatantly state that your iPad knock off 'Spanks' the iPhone... just LOL.
Old 10 January 2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
3 pages already, nice one jack
Incredible really, the reaction to praise towards Apple is frankly absurd.

I haven't even tried to wind people up, can you imagine if I did! The forum would implode.
Old 10 January 2014, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
http://www.cups.org/

Just one of many.
Dear God, you are having a laugh! CUPs wasn't developed by Apple, they adopted it for OSX, it was written by someone else. They then employed the guy to carry on developing it.

In large enterprises, Apple is simply irrelevant.

I think that the entertainment industry would take a large hit though. The does seem to be dominated by Apple.
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I didn't say they first developed it, but they certainly do now and as such it's the correct answer to the question.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I didn't say they first developed it, but they certainly do now and as such it's the correct answer to the question.
So let's get this straight, in the context of the conversation about the impact to the world of Apple failing (not counting a load of people losing their beloved iPhones or iPads, of which there are viable alternatives), you think that losing CUPs would have a major effect on the world?

Oh Jack, you are a card (the Joker)
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
You can see how I made the mistake though. For instance what mature intelligent person uses the expression 'ORLY?'? None in my considerable experience, in fact it's a good indicator that the person in question is a complete w4nker. Just saying

P.S. You're also wrong on your supposition about my thinking on Apple products. However, forgive me for not elaborating, but time is too precious to waste any more of it on the likes of you Mr ORLY?
ORLY is an old school gaming term to express disbelief, it indicates you are being ridiculous and I hold with that statement.

You are the one that's ended up looking a proper w@nker as your lack of intelligence led to personal insults, clearly the limit of your IQ.

If you cannot make an intelligent comment best you do leave, don't let the door hit your *** on the way out.

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Originally Posted by JackClark
So funny. It's just Marketing... well apart from this innovation and that innovation. Fanatical would be defined as your reaction to this thread, just shocking really. And then to blatantly state that your iPad knock off 'Spanks' the iPhone... just LOL.
You have no room to call anyone fanatical, and yes, in my and many others opinion the Note 2, nothing like an Ipad, spanks the iphone. It has now been superseded by the Note 3 which completely spanks the latest iphone pretty much across the board. They havent innovated a thing I can see other than just combine a few other peoples ideas into a phone (if you call that innovation then so be it). Like I say I have owned an iphone and found it wanting, if I thought they were any good I would have stuck with one, but I was open minded enough to try the competition and found them better.

You clearly love your Apple products, and good luck with them, but the repeated posting of Apple fanboi stuff just serves to make you look like you work for Apple marketing, nothing more.

The fact you call me and others that have already found the iphone lacking, fanbois just serves to show your closed mindedness to anything outside of the Apple product range. I have no brand loyalty, I buy the best product to suit me at the time which allows me to appraise every product on it's merits and get the best value for money as well.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
So let's get this straight, in the context of the conversation about the impact to the world of Apple failing (not counting a load of people losing their beloved iPhones or iPads, of which there are viable alternatives), you think that losing CUPs would have a major effect on the world?

Oh Jack, you are a card (the Joker)
No, you need to have a read. It was stated that Apple have no influence on Linux, obviously they do. CUPS was off the top of my head, I can list more if you'd really like me to.
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Originally Posted by Galifrey
You have no room to call anyone fanatical, and yes, in my and many others opinion the Note 2, nothing like an Ipad, spanks the iphone. It has now been superseded by the Note 3 which completely spanks the latest iphone pretty much across the board. They havent innovated a thing I can see other than just combine a few other peoples ideas into a phone (if you call that innovation then so be it). Like I say I have owned an iphone and found it wanting, if I thought they were any good I would have stuck with one, but I was open minded enough to try the competition and found them better.

You clearly love your Apple products, and good luck with them, but the repeated posting of Apple fanboi stuff just serves to make you look like you work for Apple marketing, nothing more.

The fact you call me and others that have already found the iphone lacking, fanbois just serves to show your closed mindedness to anything outside of the Apple product range. I have no brand loyalty, I buy the best product to suit me at the time which allows me to appraise every product on it's merits and get the best value for money as well.
You carry on loving your iPad sized mobile phone, I honestly don't care. You won't find me commenting on it, unlike yourself who can't help but post in a negative manner on Apple threads. Why do you do it?
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Originally Posted by Galifrey
ORLY is an old school gaming term to express disbelief, it indicates you are being ridiculous and I hold with that statement.

You are the one that's ended up looking a proper w@nker as your lack of intelligence led to personal insults, clearly the limit of your IQ.

If you cannot make an intelligent comment best you do leave, don't let the door hit your *** on the way out.

You use 'old school gaming terms' when you're supposed to be an adult and criticise me for a lack of intelligence. Come back when you can communicate like and adult, until then keep your mouth shut!
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Originally Posted by JackClark
No, you need to have a read. It was stated that Apple have no influence on Linux, obviously they do. CUPS was off the top of my head, I can list more if you'd really like me to.
I'd really like you to name something that influences z/OS.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
I'd really like you to name something that influences z/OS.
And if I did you'd ask me to name something from Apple that influences Unicorns flying over Volcanos. Just be happy that Apple have influenced you in a positive manner and enhanced your life.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
I'd really like you to name something that influences z/OS.
That was close, thought I was about to push a custard pie into your face.

http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Z/OS#cite_note-3
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
You use 'old school gaming terms' when you're supposed to be an adult and criticise me for a lack of intelligence. Come back when you can communicate like and adult, until then keep your mouth shut!

If communicating like an Adult is personal insults I will stick to my way of communicating thanks. Every post you make belittles your intelligence not mine, so keep going as long as you like.

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Originally Posted by JackClark
First commercial product to use a multi-panel window interface, that'd be Apple, everything afterwards was influenced by Apple's release. Have you ever heard the term 'Suck Lemons', because that's how I'm envisioning you right now. All screw faced.
Which, again, it copied from the same company it copied the mouse from, so no, 'everything' was not influenced by Apple sine they neither innovated nor invented anything you've mentioned so far.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Which, again, it copied from the same company it copied the mouse from, so no, 'everything' was not influenced by Apple sine they neither innovated nor invented anything you've mentioned so far.
Absolutely, Apple was influenced by Xerox, I totally accept that and give them credit where due. Now, after Apple was influenced by Xerox everyone else was influenced by Apple, something that you find it impossible to give credit for. See how silly you are?
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Originally Posted by Galifrey
If communicating like an Adult is personal insults I will stick to my way of communicating thanks. Every post you make belittles your intelligence not mine, so keep going as long as you like.

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