And that.

 

Sat in bed watching the sea smash the hell out of the coast; the swell is huge!!
Rather windy too.

 

Get your surf board out! Isn't today supposed to be when the mother of all storms comes crashing through?

 

Quite sunny here in Gloucester and fairly calm.......

 

"Storm Charlie set to wreak havoc - Make sure you stay safe during deadly weather"

It's deadly again

 

Yep but sadly it's so windy, the surf is rubbish.

 

You do make a good point with this thread, Chris.

On MSN news (when I open my tinterbet, it's the MSN page I encounter to begin with) it shows the pictures of flooded UK. A picture is titled as "A man struggles to pedal through flood water", in which a middle aged man is coming down from non-flooded road to a ditch full of flood water in some housing estate. The point is, why the fekk do you want to pedal through floods for??? Unless he is doing it for a bit of a childish thrill, I can't see why anyone would do that.

Then there're two pictures of homeowner Sam Notaro somewhere in the UK with his wellies under water, 'desperately looking on' while workmen trying to 'save' his 1 million property. I agree that just because he has 1 million house doesn't mean his house shouldn't be saved, but the point is that his mint house in picture is simply surrounded by flood water, and standing proud it's no way falling down. Moreover, why he's pathetically standing in water is beyond me, as with his riches he can book himself in a 5* hotel for this time, if he can't get into his house. Or, get a boat to float to the house, even. Inflatable ones are only cheap!

Comparing to hard core tsunami disasters and earthquakes around the world, and how people hang to floating branches and push their loved out of crumbled mess to save their lives, it does make you think that there's more drama than realism in our weather news.

 

Yes exactly and I am in no way ignoring how traumatic it must be for people whose homes are flooded or farms and businesse are wrecked etc., but at the end of the day it is winter weather and is nothing we have not seen before in this country.

To continually publish headlines about deadly storms, ice age temperatures, 150mph winds etc. etc. is clearly irresponsible and sensationalist nonsense.

It's winter, it's a wet and windy one... let's get on with sorting out the issues it thoriws up without continually trying to scare everyone to death!

 

I've just spent the whole day sorting the garage out so the scooby can sit in there and hide from the weather but now I'm paranoid about spiders and mice / rats eating my engine! Been sunny all day here apart from about an hour ago when it's grey and windy! On the news they said that 92mph gusts were recorded on the IOW!

 

 

Yes it is winter weather, but to be fair, personally I've not seen it this bad before, farmland around here looks more like a lake and plenty of rivers have burst their banks flooding vast areas.

 

It is exceptional. The swell peaked at 5.7 metres last year. It's broken 8 metres three times this year. And the wind has been storm force almost weekly. Add massive rainfall and it's definitely unusual.
But we are mostly still alive.

 

Picking out the main ones:

1952 - 34 killed
1953 - 58 dead
2002 - 140000 people had water supply contaminated, thousands evacuated in Scotland
2004 - much of Cornwall flood damaged, half of Bocastle swept away
2005 - £250 million of flood damage across the south of the country
2007 - 6 killed - much of Yorkshire affected for over a month
2009 - 2 killed - much of Cumbria affected

The worst was Sheffield 1864 - 270 dead although that was caused not by the weather but by a dam failure

 

Yes, not quite like the tsunamis in Thailand or Japan is it? That's deadly weather, this is nothing more than some realy bad storms.

 

Well, although things haven't been as bad as other countries in the UK, but for such a small country surrounded by ocean, risk assessment would come out to be quite staggering, if you look at it geographically. One tsunami would blow it away like an autumn leaf! I think we should neither overestimate nor underestimate the power of Nature.

Not the weather, but I foresee some lectures in Geography coming up now.

 

Tsunamis are a very different thing to large swells generated 1000s of miles away - I've been aware of the swell for many years and honestly, this swell is exceptional and has caused massive damage. Loss of life has been low but at least half a dozen people have died down here thanks to the swell size in the last month.

The unusual thing is the very powerful jet stream being generated in the US; big temperature differential means it's been like a non stop conveyor belt of intense low pressures. And it's been travelling at over 200mph - very unusual.

The Express does spout 99% utter nonsense but this weather is rather weird.

 

HARRP

 

It isn't due to change anytime soon either by the looks of it!

 

Over 300 mph!

 

Yes but they all didn't occur during winter!

All I'm saying is that personally for all the years where I live, I've never witnessed a winter with this amount of flooding that I current see all around the area where I live, or the fact that it has been pretty much been constant heavy rain and high winds almost everyday for nearly 3 months. Normally I'd be expecting cold snaps, frost and snow. Not saying it's the apocalypse outside, but just that it's the first time I've seen it like this where I live.

 

Tsunamis are created by rapid displacement of water not weather.

 

And?

OK but where I live I have seen it a lot wetter and windier so ergo this is nothing.

Being serious when you look at the country as a whole this isn't that much different to serveral other periods of bad weather in the last fifty years.... despite what the Express would have you believe!

 

Yeah probably should have said deadly flooding, but you get my drift. A couple of deaths and a lost dog isn't quite the same as tens of thousands being killed and injured in Thailand or Japan

 

Yeah, ok. But tsunami is an act of Nature, yes? Like weather. No?

If yes, tsunami and weather can be talked in the same context; the context of the unforeseen. Well, a little bit foreseen, but not altogether, and in an exact form.

 

Yes but since tsunamis aren't a seasonal occurrence and can't be predicted as to when they're due to occur, they're freak events of nature. So whilst they're acts of nature, they're completely different to weather and part of earths system that we have even less knowledge of.

 

Yes, you have differentiated well up there^. To compare, weather and tsunami are two different children of the same mother Nature. What's common in them is their unpredictability. Ok, one has become more predictable (if not fully), whereas the other one remains an enigma.

That's life.


Your crux point that you make is that tsunami isn't a seasonal occurrence. It's a good one.

 

Christ, It has come early for this year! Snowing like hell here now. Massive flakes coming down with no brakes on. My neighbour says they did predict it on high grounds.

 

Where abouts are you please?

 

Flintshire village on high grounds.

Still chucking down bucket loads.

 

F1; tsunamis are actually smaller than this...
http://www.sott.net/article/273535-7...warning-system