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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
By 'exactly' I assume that means that you agree with his post?

Nowhere have I said that the government don't do shady deals...nowhere.
I know it works best for you when you can position your extreme views by deliberately twisting mine and painting my VERY MODERATE position as absolutist. Please knock it off!
He's been trained by the best, I expect you know who I mean.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
I did copy n paste the above, far easier than re-typing.
It tells me that more and more people are questioning and not just accepting.
Anyway, It's obviously to far fetched to have any inkling of truth in it.
Things like this obviously don't happen.
Our government does not cover anything up,never have, heck they wouldn't even dream of lying to us peasants.
No it tells you that this is total crackpot nonsense and there is no evidence apart from 1 article (by a crackpot) being endless recycled on the internet... by crackpots

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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
No it tells you that this is total crackpot nonsense and there is no evidence apart from 1 article (by a crackpot) being endless recycled on the internet... by crackpots
There is plenty of evidence, certain national papers have names of high end politicians from operation ore,,hence the d-notice.
Imagine the damage caused if this truth came out, that's were the D-notice comes in,a 100 yr gagging order all in the name of national security.
A complete blackout from all the worlds media, were are not meant to know certain things.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
I did copy n paste the above, far easier than re-typing.
It tells me that more and more people are questioning and not just accepting.
Anyway, It's obviously to far fetched to have any inkling of truth in it.
Things like this obviously don't happen.
Our government does not cover anything up,never have, heck they wouldn't even dream of lying to us peasants.
Oh give it a rest, all your doing is highlighting why you can't debate with conspiracy theorists.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Oh give it a rest, all your doing is highlighting why you can't debate with conspiracy theorists.
I'm a fully fledged member of the tin foil hat brigade. Can't you tell?
Debating "valid" topics with people of different views is a good thing.
Why should I give it a rest? If you don't like then don't read
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
I'm a fully fledged member of the tin foil hat brigade. Can't you tell?
Debating "valid" topics with people of different views is a good thing.
Why should I give it a rest? If you don't like then don't read
But your not debating, your either quoting questionable websites or using sarcasm to make people with opposing views sound deluded.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
No it tells you that this is total crackpot nonsense and there is no evidence apart from 1 article (by a crackpot) being endless recycled on the internet... by crackpots
You've been given at least half a dozen examples by different SN members. What more do you demand?
And do you work in PR for the government? You seem to have a very rose tinted view of the higher echelons of society.

You don't get to the top or stay at the top without shi77ing on a lot of people.
Care to refute that too?
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
But your not debating, your either quoting questionable websites or using sarcasm to make people with opposing views sound deluded.
Of course it's debating, I have not once forced any of my beliefs on anybody or argued with anyone.
"Questionable" webpages is where I get the majority of my information from, I find them more trustworthy sources than mainstream media. It's friendly sarcasm my friend, who isn't?
The amount of times people call me deluded because my views differ from the majority's, because I tend to think outside the box, because I'm not easily led or naive.
Just because certain things can be so unbelievable and shocking it doesn't mean it can never be true, open minded that's all
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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LOL, Martin, the best "nay-sayer" on S/N has gone into "No" mode again.

No, no,...no it wasn't.
No, no, ....no it didn't.
No, no,...no it doesn't.
No, no,...no it won't.

Denial without argument. Typical politician. Sounds just like that joke one from the "Fast Show".
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
LOL, Martin, the best "nay-sayer" on S/N has gone into "No" mode again.

No, no,...no it wasn't.
No, no, ....no it didn't.
No, no,...no it doesn't.
No, no,...no it won't.

Denial without argument. Typical politician. Sounds just like that joke one from the "Fast Show".
You do make me laugh.

Every time I dismantle your daft arguments with FACTS, you run away and hide. Then the very next thread you revert to posts like this

How many times do you want to go around like this?
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
You've been given at least half a dozen examples by different SN members. What more do you demand?
And do you work in PR for the government? You seem to have a very rose tinted view of the higher echelons of society.

You don't get to the top or stay at the top without shi77ing on a lot of people.
Care to refute that too?
Have I?

If you wouldn't mid pointing out these (at least) half a dozen examples

There a very big difference between 'shi77ing on a lot of people to get to the top' and murdering school children
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Have I?

If you wouldn't mid pointing out these (at least) half a dozen examples

There a very big difference between 'shi77ing on a lot of people to get to the top' and murdering school children
Think You would be surprised.
Government = lying.
Government = mass-corruption.
Government = mass-murder.
It's that simple, if you believe ours and the worlds governments are not capable of the above then that my friend is a little naive.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Have I?

If you wouldn't mid pointing out these (at least) half a dozen examples.

There a very big difference between 'shi77ing on a lot of people to get to the top' and murdering school children.
EFA.

This really is like working with Chimps now.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Yup!!!
While British Prime Minister Tony Blair was under criminal suspicion in the “honours-for-cash” scandal that rocked "our" Labour government, there is an even more explosive scandal that Blair has managed to hide behind the British policy of issuing “D-Notices.
Government orders that prohibit the British media from reporting on certain “national security” cases.

In 1999, an international investigation of child pornographers and paedophiles run by Britain’s CIA,code named Operation Ore, resulted in thousands of suspects being identified in the United Kingdom alone.
Some people were criminally charged in the case and there were convictions. Almost 500 people were interviewed “under caution” by police, meaning they were suspects. Some 900 individuals remain under investigation. In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair’s government.

However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice.
Police also discovered links between British Labour government paedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution.

The Sunday Times is reported to have obtained an FBI/CIA list of Labour MPs who have used credit cards to pay for internet child pornography, and Blair has responded by imposing a massive news blackout.
What do you (or all the other crackpots) really know about operation Ore

I suspect just what you (and they) read in the papers,

Seems correct because as you say

"The Sunday Times is reported"

And yet you rail against people who "believe what they are told" presumably by the same papers and press

So you believe from the papers "The Sunday Times is reported" after all, when it validates your ideas

But they are part of a plot when you do not

I am afraid you a part of the problem - your absolute crackpot theories simply provide them cover to get away with what they undoudtly do

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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Think You would be surprised.
Government = lying.
Government = mass-corruption.
Government = mass-murder.
It's that simple, if you believe ours and the worlds governments are not capable of the above then that my friend is a little naive.
And somewhere between the 2 extremes lies the truth.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
You do make me laugh.

Every time I dismantle your daft arguments with FACTS, you run away and hide. Then the very next thread you revert to posts like this

How many times do you want to go around like this?
LOL......perhaps we could START, since you haven't done it yet, preferring the "fast show" style of argument.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
What do you (or all the other crackpots) really know about operation Ore
I suspect just what you (and they) read in the papers,

Seems correct because as you say

"The Sunday Times is reported"

And yet you rail against people who "beleive what they are told" presumably by the same papers and press

So you believe from the papers "The Sunday Times is reported" after all, when it validates your ideas

But they are part of a plot when you do not

I am afraid you a part of the problem - your absolute crackpot theories simply provide them cover to get away with what they undoudtly do
I know a huge amount more than most in regards to operation ore, my research lasts longer than 5 spare minutes.
I'm sorry I don't read or believe approx 50% of what is written in the daily papers., so can not comment.
I believe an independent reporter was made aware of certain info by a whistleblower, in regards to Ore. Info that can not and will not be made public.
Hence the D-notice.
We don't agree, that's fine, this is a discussion that's all.
As I have said earlier, I do wear a tin foil hat
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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UK is now the fastest growing economy in the G7. IMF have forcasted UK growth of 2.9% which places the UK at the top of the growth league compared to Germany with growth of just 1.7%. Also unemployment also forcasted to dip below 7% this year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26935148
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Jon, how dare you post any positive news on SN?

The numbers probably aren't true, the bbc are after all staunch Tory supporters.

Now keep repeating after me " we are all doomed, the country is going to the dogs, our politicians eat the hearts of adbucted children"
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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lol, it's on the BBC, it must be true.
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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Not so hard to be the biggest growing economy when starting from so far back. Let's see how we stack up against Germany over the last 6 years!
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Not so hard to be the biggest growing economy when starting from so far back. Let's see how we stack up against Germany over the last 6 years!
What about Oz Chris?
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Jon, how dare you post any positive news on SN?

The numbers probably aren't true, the bbc are after all staunch Tory supporters.

Now keep repeating after me " we are all doomed, the country is going to the dogs, our politicians eat the hearts of adbucted children"
23 minutes!

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lol, it's on the BBC, it must be true.
Must be true, The Daily Record reported this last month and they are never wrong......http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/busines...lander-3237668
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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And repeat after me "this country is doomed........."

A good thing we didn't follow the path of Hollande (who Milliband and ***** found common ground with). His whole cabinet resigned after being killed in the local elections. His anti austerity and tax rise measures have seen €40 billion leave his country, unemployment increase to 10% and gdp flat.

He has now opened the door to far right xenophobic groups.
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
What about Oz Chris?
15.2% growth in the last 5 years

Take WA on its own and it's more like 25%!

And oh dear the UK has contracted by 1.2% in the same time frame

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He has now opened the door to far right xenophobic groups.
Whereas we elected one
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Whereas we elected one
UKIP haven't been elected!
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
UKIP haven't been elected!
No and technically nor has that xenophobic warmongering **** Cameron
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
15.2% growth in the last 5 years

Take WA on its own and it's more like 25%!

And oh dear the UK has contracted by 1.2% in the same time frame
you should speed up your emigration...think of all the interest on savings you are loosing
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