Thank god Balls and Gordong aren't in charge
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Yes. So, instead of parroting the cr*p you’ve been fed by the right wing media and pedalled by our Con-Lib govt, show me the measure, any one you like, that shows Labour made a mess of the economy between 1997-2010.
However you measure it; year-on-year growth, GDP, govt debt, debt to GDP, unemployment or, above all, inflation-adjusted per capita GDP, the 13-year Labour administration outperformed previous and current governments on the economy.
So much so that even the Coalition don’t actually say, “Labour made a mess of the economy”. Instead they use carefully worded phrases like “the economic mess that Labour left us”. But they don't mention that the mess was due to the international financial crisis. Damage done!
In politics, if you repeat a lie (or a near lie) often enough, eventually it becomes the truth.
However you measure it; year-on-year growth, GDP, govt debt, debt to GDP, unemployment or, above all, inflation-adjusted per capita GDP, the 13-year Labour administration outperformed previous and current governments on the economy.
So much so that even the Coalition don’t actually say, “Labour made a mess of the economy”. Instead they use carefully worded phrases like “the economic mess that Labour left us”. But they don't mention that the mess was due to the international financial crisis. Damage done!
In politics, if you repeat a lie (or a near lie) often enough, eventually it becomes the truth.
Lengthy? Yes. I’m sorry. My attention span runs longer that 15 minutes and I can’t do sound bites and just repeat slogans.
Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.
Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?
Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.
Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.
Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?
Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.
Last edited by SouthWalesSam; Dec 11, 2013 at 10:23 AM.
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,356
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From: in the woods...........555 Wagon Sqn
Lengthy? Yes. I’m sorry. My attention span runs longer that 15 minutes and I can’t do sound bites and just repeat slogans.
Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.
Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?
Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.
Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.
Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?
Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.

I don't have a great deal of interest in politics in general in all honesty, I don't believe any of the parties really represent me and although I always vote I don't believe I (or we the people if you prefer), have the ability to influence change at that level...so it's not my right (or left), wing media because I have no loyalty either way.
I just think it's ironic and a little blinkered when anyone demonises one party and puts another on a pedestal...they all make mistakes and blame their predecessors when the going gets tough, and earn a reasonable wage whilst doing so.
Lengthy? Yes. I’m sorry. My attention span runs longer that 15 minutes and I can’t do sound bites and just repeat slogans.
Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.
Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?
Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.
Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.
Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?
Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
The news has been well received in the city thoiugh with the FTSE climbing 100 points... ah no maybe not!
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641
We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
Keep sucking Osborne's **** for all I care. They are all w4nkers, just people like you don't realise it yet. You will when the UK goes bankrupt. Ok, so it works like this does it? You say something inaccurate, factually incorrect and misleading and if I point that out in one short sentence you try and cover it up by saying it was 'bait'?


Try again, nobody is falling for it.

If you want to explain why the ftse fell today I can do, in simple terms you could understand of course

And it's particularly amusing that you want me 'to keep sucking Osborne's ****' as that would imply there is something wrong with sucking ****. Considering you reported me to the mods in the past for 'gheyer' comments it's rather (typically of you) hypocritical to use the notion of one man sucking another man's **** as an insult.
However I'm pretty sure there's only one person here who would enjoy sucking man meat and that's the guy who drives a cabriolet, has a 'partner', goes to Peter Gabriel concerts and watches videos of fluffy cats playing


Personally I'd rather have his PA squatting on my face, she is really fit. But I'm sure you find that comment offensive as it 'objectifies women' (and you are the biggest bumder on Scoobynet
Ok, so it works like this does it? You say something inaccurate, factually incorrect and misleading and if I point that out in one short sentence you try and cover it up by saying it was 'bait'?

Try again, nobody is falling for it.
If you want to explain why the ftse fell today I can do, in simple terms you could understand of course
And it's particularly amusing that you want me 'to keep sucking Osborne's ****' as that would imply there is something wrong with sucking ****. Considering you reported me to the mods in the past for 'gheyer' comments it's rather (typically of you) hypocritical to use the notion of one man sucking another man's **** as an insult.
However I'm pretty sure there's only one person here who would enjoy sucking man meat and that's the guy who drives a cabriolet, has a 'partner', goes to Peter Gabriel concerts and watches videos of fluffy cats playing

Personally I'd rather have his PA squatting on my face, she is really fit. But I'm sure you find that comment offensive as it 'objectifies women' (and you are the biggest bumder on Scoobynet
)


Try again, nobody is falling for it.

If you want to explain why the ftse fell today I can do, in simple terms you could understand of course

And it's particularly amusing that you want me 'to keep sucking Osborne's ****' as that would imply there is something wrong with sucking ****. Considering you reported me to the mods in the past for 'gheyer' comments it's rather (typically of you) hypocritical to use the notion of one man sucking another man's **** as an insult.
However I'm pretty sure there's only one person here who would enjoy sucking man meat and that's the guy who drives a cabriolet, has a 'partner', goes to Peter Gabriel concerts and watches videos of fluffy cats playing


Personally I'd rather have his PA squatting on my face, she is really fit. But I'm sure you find that comment offensive as it 'objectifies women' (and you are the biggest bumder on Scoobynet
PS If you want to think I'm gay crack on, doesn't bother me one iota!
Last edited by f1_fan; Dec 17, 2013 at 06:20 PM.
And I have no time for your drivel or your so called 'bait'
And yes I do think you are a gay crack
Last edited by Dingdongler; Dec 17, 2013 at 06:35 PM.
He’s a financial genius that Osborne! After 3 years 8 months he drives inflation back down to where it was 4 years ago. Incredible! 
You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.

You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.
Last edited by SouthWalesSam; Dec 23, 2013 at 06:27 PM.
He’s a financial genius that Osborne! After 3 years 8 months he drives inflation back down to where it was 4 years ago. Incredible! 
You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.

You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.
He’s a financial genius that Osborne! After 3 years 8 months he drives inflation back down to where it was 4 years ago. Incredible! 
You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.

You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.
I must say it's you who appears insecure and juvenile considering you have to resort to petty name calling and insults.
I'm not sure why you (and F1 Fan) seem to think it's ok to throw insults and profanities at anybody who doesn't agree with you.
You're behaving like a little spoilt child, or perhaps you have Tourettes like your mate Ed *****?


Btw, I'm not a homophobe
I must say it's you who appears insecure and juvenile considering you have to resort to petty name calling and insults.
I'm not sure why you (and F1 Fan) seem to think it's ok to throw insults and profanities at anybody who doesn't agree with you.
You're behaving like a little spoilt child, or perhaps you have Tourettes like your mate Ed *****?

Btw, I'm not a homophobe
I'm not sure why you (and F1 Fan) seem to think it's ok to throw insults and profanities at anybody who doesn't agree with you.
You're behaving like a little spoilt child, or perhaps you have Tourettes like your mate Ed *****?


Btw, I'm not a homophobe
BTW I couldn't care less what insults you hurl, just pointing out you can't really play the 'he called me a name' card when you do likewise Have a good Christmas
As for some reason you have chosen to mention me may I just quote a typical post of yours to me from couple of days ago:
So it seems hypocrisy and homophobia are possibly in evidence here
BTW I couldn't care less what insults you hurl, just pointing out you can't really play the 'he called me a name' card when you do likewise 
Have a good Christmas
So it seems hypocrisy and homophobia are possibly in evidence here
BTW I couldn't care less what insults you hurl, just pointing out you can't really play the 'he called me a name' card when you do likewise Have a good Christmas

Tell the whole story though please? Wasn't my comment in response to you telling me to suck George Osborne's ****?







