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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
Yes. So, instead of parroting the cr*p you’ve been fed by the right wing media and pedalled by our Con-Lib govt, show me the measure, any one you like, that shows Labour made a mess of the economy between 1997-2010.

However you measure it; year-on-year growth, GDP, govt debt, debt to GDP, unemployment or, above all, inflation-adjusted per capita GDP, the 13-year Labour administration outperformed previous and current governments on the economy.

So much so that even the Coalition don’t actually say, “Labour made a mess of the economy”. Instead they use carefully worded phrases like “the economic mess that Labour left us”. But they don't mention that the mess was due to the international financial crisis. Damage done!

In politics, if you repeat a lie (or a near lie) often enough, eventually it becomes the truth.
Sorry only just seen this, two word reply to your post; borrowing and debt...looking forward to your lengthy justification
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Lengthy? Yes. I’m sorry. My attention span runs longer that 15 minutes and I can’t do sound bites and just repeat slogans.

Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.

Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?

Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.

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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
Lengthy? Yes. I’m sorry. My attention span runs longer that 15 minutes and I can’t do sound bites and just repeat slogans.

Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.

Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?

Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.
You do a pretty good righteous indignation though Sam

I don't have a great deal of interest in politics in general in all honesty, I don't believe any of the parties really represent me and although I always vote I don't believe I (or we the people if you prefer), have the ability to influence change at that level...so it's not my right (or left), wing media because I have no loyalty either way.

I just think it's ironic and a little blinkered when anyone demonises one party and puts another on a pedestal...they all make mistakes and blame their predecessors when the going gets tough, and earn a reasonable wage whilst doing so.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
Lengthy? Yes. I’m sorry. My attention span runs longer that 15 minutes and I can’t do sound bites and just repeat slogans.

Deficit: Brown ran a SURPLUS for 4 years – the only Chancellor in 20 years to manage this. When he ran a deficit it was less than Lamont or Clarke on average ‘til the crash. The bank bail out (£60Bn) in 2008 and a massive Keynesian-style jump in spending to create 0.5 million public sector jobs kept unemployment low and staved off a 1920s style catastrophe that would have wrecked the country (prefer the Greek approach, anyone?). The Tories and your right wing media have used this deliberate overspend to smear him ever since. Time will tell.

Borrowing: Labour 37.5 to 43% of GBP. Con-Lab: 43.5% to 90% of GDP. Hello?

Sorry, @Trails but you don’t strike me as a man with a handle on the facts, just someone repeating what you believe to be common knowledge that isn’t knowledge at all.
This sort of proves what i have been saying all along. Labour are never as wasteful as people think, and the Tories are never as austere, as people think. Its just small margins in the centre ground.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641

We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641

We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
Yes they've got it back to where it was before their policies caused it to climb to silly levels

The news has been well received in the city thoiugh with the FTSE climbing 100 points... ah no maybe not!
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641

We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
Looking good Well done Mr Oz
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25413641

We musn't let ***** and his ilk mess it all up again!
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

The news has been well received in the city thoiugh with the FTSE climbing 100 points... ah no maybe not!

Thanks. You've just proven that your ignorance extends to how the financial markets work
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Thanks. You've just proven that your ignorance extends to how the financial markets work
Thanks, you've just proved you will still take any bait I throw at you. Keep sucking Osborne's **** for all I care. They are all w4nkers, just people like you don't realise it yet. You will when the UK goes bankrupt.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Thanks, you've just proved you will still take any bait I throw at you. Keep sucking Osborne's **** for all I care. They are all w4nkers, just people like you don't realise it yet. You will when the UK goes bankrupt.


Ok, so it works like this does it? You say something inaccurate, factually incorrect and misleading and if I point that out in one short sentence you try and cover it up by saying it was 'bait'?

Try again, nobody is falling for it.

If you want to explain why the ftse fell today I can do, in simple terms you could understand of course

And it's particularly amusing that you want me 'to keep sucking Osborne's ****' as that would imply there is something wrong with sucking ****. Considering you reported me to the mods in the past for 'gheyer' comments it's rather (typically of you) hypocritical to use the notion of one man sucking another man's **** as an insult.

However I'm pretty sure there's only one person here who would enjoy sucking man meat and that's the guy who drives a cabriolet, has a 'partner', goes to Peter Gabriel concerts and watches videos of fluffy cats playing

Personally I'd rather have his PA squatting on my face, she is really fit. But I'm sure you find that comment offensive as it 'objectifies women' (and you are the biggest bumder on Scoobynet)
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Ok, so it works like this does it? You say something inaccurate, factually incorrect and misleading and if I point that out in one short sentence you try and cover it up by saying it was 'bait'?

Try again, nobody is falling for it.

If you want to explain why the ftse fell today I can do, in simple terms you could understand of course

And it's particularly amusing that you want me 'to keep sucking Osborne's ****' as that would imply there is something wrong with sucking ****. Considering you reported me to the mods in the past for 'gheyer' comments it's rather (typically of you) hypocritical to use the notion of one man sucking another man's **** as an insult.

However I'm pretty sure there's only one person here who would enjoy sucking man meat and that's the guy who drives a cabriolet, has a 'partner', goes to Peter Gabriel concerts and watches videos of fluffy cats playing

Personally I'd rather have his PA squatting on my face, she is really fit. But I'm sure you find that comment offensive as it 'objectifies women' (and you are the biggest bumder on Scoobynet)
To be honest I haven't time for your drivel, but I have NEVER reported you to the mods!

PS If you want to think I'm gay crack on, doesn't bother me one iota!

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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
To be honest I haven't time for your drivel, but I have NEVER reported you to the mods!

PS If you want to think I'm gay crack on, doesn't bother me one iota!

And I have no time for your drivel or your so called 'bait'

And yes I do think you are a gay crack

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Hey butt out, I'm the only gay in the village!
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Hey butt out, I'm the only gay in the village!

I have no problem with you being gay, just don't shove it down my throat!
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Thanks, you've just proved you will still take any bait I throw at you.
You truly are a master baiter.
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FSA not a drinking boys club? Really?!?!?
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[QUOTE]
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Ok, so it works like this does it? You say something inaccurate, factually incorrect and misleading and if I point that out in one short sentence you try and cover it up by saying it was 'bait'?quote]
It's called wriggling
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Inflation now at a four year low! Thanks Georgie boy!
He’s a financial genius that Osborne! After 3 years 8 months he drives inflation back down to where it was 4 years ago. Incredible!

You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.

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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
He’s a financial genius that Osborne! After 3 years 8 months he drives inflation back down to where it was 4 years ago. Incredible!

You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.
Wow that's a bit harsh!....didn't think he was that insecure.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
He’s a financial genius that Osborne! After 3 years 8 months he drives inflation back down to where it was 4 years ago. Incredible!

You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.

I must say it's you who appears insecure and juvenile considering you have to resort to petty name calling and insults.

I'm not sure why you (and F1 Fan) seem to think it's ok to throw insults and profanities at anybody who doesn't agree with you.

You're behaving like a little spoilt child, or perhaps you have Tourettes like your mate Ed *****?


Btw, I'm not a homophobe
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
I must say it's you who appears insecure and juvenile considering you have to resort to petty name calling and insults.

I'm not sure why you (and F1 Fan) seem to think it's ok to throw insults and profanities at anybody who doesn't agree with you.

You're behaving like a little spoilt child, or perhaps you have Tourettes like your mate Ed *****?


Btw, I'm not a homophobe
As for some reason you have chosen to mention me may I just quote a typical post of yours to me from couple of days ago:

Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Yep, and you are still the biggest **** munching bum sniffer on Scoobynet
So it seems hypocrisy and homophobia are possibly in evidence here BTW I couldn't care less what insults you hurl, just pointing out you can't really play the 'he called me a name' card when you do likewise

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Good morning F1, you **** munching bum sniffer you!

lol that just brightened up my morning that did.
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Good morning F1, you **** munching bum sniffer you!

lol that just brightened up my morning that did.
Bet you wish it was yours I was munching
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Bet you wish it was yours I was munching
Naa actually don't, I'm a normal person.
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Naa actually don't, I'm a normal person.
oh gawd...can of worms
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oh gawd...can of worms
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Naa actually don't, I'm a normal person.
No, you conform to a statistical norm, you are most definitely NOT normal
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
As for some reason you have chosen to mention me may I just quote a typical post of yours to me from couple of days ago:



So it seems hypocrisy and homophobia are possibly in evidence here BTW I couldn't care less what insults you hurl, just pointing out you can't really play the 'he called me a name' card when you do likewise

Have a good Christmas


Tell the whole story though please? Wasn't my comment in response to you telling me to suck George Osborne's ****?
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Tell the whole story though please? Wasn't my comment in response to you telling me to suck George Osborne's ****?
Don't know, can't remember, but quite possibly even if on that occasion I was probably speaking metaphorically. The point is though you do hurl insults around as do I, the difference is I don't claim not to! Thanks anyway
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