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Old 03 March 2015, 09:00 AM
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Excellent. Let us know your review of it. Good you liked the steering.
Old 03 March 2015, 05:32 PM
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I'm not sure if the Plus gained anything extra in the handling department or whether it was some carbon/visual differences and a power/limiter increase??

We've got a standard TTRS and in my opinion, it's not in the same league as an Evo/Scoob on a decent twisty undulating back road. Smoother fast A-roads and it's a closer call though.

From a brief scout I did on t'internet a couple of years ago, it seems that a proper geometry set up will help a little, but after that the lads on the forum I was reading were talking about changes to suspension hardware.


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What a great track car: okay it's not hardcore but with RWD, super sticky tyres and strong brakes, it really shone today at Bedford West. Then a comfy drive home (300 miles!).

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Old 01 August 2015, 07:16 PM
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I have thought about taking my 530d on an MLR sprint as I'm not really used to rear wheel drive driven in anger so it would be nice to find some limits in a safe environment. I still have a set of x22 tyres that will fit on my spare 17" wheels
Old 01 August 2015, 09:33 PM
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It's all about the brakes and weight is suddenly much more important.

There were some very hardcore cars there; a guy in our group (I'd say early 20s) had a new Aventador; it failed the noise test do he had to rent an Atom; he was bloody quick!
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Ordered an m135i on a business lease back in early June,finally arrives on Wednesday.
I just hope I find the transition from a 330 bhp blob wagon easy enough.
Old 02 August 2015, 06:09 PM
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Nice one; pretty certain you'll love it!
There's a lively FB group if you want any info; a fair few of us meet quite regularly for hooning.
Old 02 August 2015, 06:23 PM
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Cheers fella,what's worrying me is the last rear wheel drive car I owned was a Talbot sunbeam ti,back in the late 80's.
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This is my second RWD car; you soon get used to it and then start to enjoy the extra fun RWD gives you; brilliant on track too!
Old 03 August 2015, 01:28 PM
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gone

As am I.

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Old 03 August 2015, 02:01 PM
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You're not greedy with your curbs are you?
Old 03 August 2015, 02:09 PM
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First time on a track. Give me some slack...
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I'd take that video down if I were you, Matthew.
Old 03 August 2015, 03:58 PM
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At the Knockhill days I've done there has been instructors on hand to give track newbs a hand with lines and track etiquette, never done a track event at Bedford, do they not have that facility?? If not, then jumping in with a track veteran would be a good shout next time.


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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
First time on a track. Give me some slack...
Sorry didn't realise. I've been on track a bit but am greedy for curb and tyre walls. You returned unscathed apart from centre caps and had fun, that is all that matters.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I'd take that video down if I were you, Matthew.
Why?!

I had an experienced instructor in the car; it was only on the timed laps that I really went for it. Well probably 90% as there's still a nagging thought that stacking the car would be a total disaster. That was my third (and 4th) lap; the last was a slow cool down to let the brakes recover.

Learned plenty but still need to sort my s bends out more (brake later, straighten the line more) and brake even later in general. By the times laps I was clipping every apex and using more of the track and was almost 10s quicker.

Is this SN at its worst again? No shared enthusiasm, just criticism? It's very sad.

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Old 03 August 2015, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Why?!

I had an experienced instructor in the car; it was only on the timed laps that I really went for it. Well probably 90% as there's still a nagging thought that stacking the car would be a total disaster. That was my third (and 4th) lap; the last was a slow cool down to let the brakes recover.

Learned plenty but still need to sort my s bends out more (brake later, straighten the line more) and brake even later in general. By the times laps I was clipping every apex and using more of the track and was almost 10s quicker.

Is this SN at its worst again? No shared enthusiasm, just criticism? It's very sad.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for having a good time and full of enthusiasm for a bit of track work; it's just those lines. Those lines, Matthew!
Old 03 August 2015, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for having a good time and full of enthusiasm for a bit of track work; it's just those lines. Those lines, Matthew!
Have you driven there? It was my third lap. The next lap was a cool down (slow) lap trying to let the camera car past. After an hours tuition I was a lot faster. Anyway, it was a lot of fun, the car was superb, we all enjoyed ourselves immensely. My lap time wasn't too bad in the end.
Old 03 August 2015, 05:18 PM
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Having a good time should be all that matters.
And not meeting someone coming the other way, of course...
Old 03 August 2015, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Having a good time should be all that matters.
And not meeting someone coming the other way, of course...


To be fair, it did look extremely quiet in that video, so meandering around wouldn't have caused a great deal of fuss... but on a busier track with 'randoms' who are (rightly or wrongly) expecting others on track to be of a certain standard, there could have been an issue; hence my advice to 'jump in and observe a veteran' or ask for instruction if it's available.


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Old 03 August 2015, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Have you driven there? It was my third lap. The next lap was a cool down (slow) lap trying to let the camera car past. After an hours tuition I was a lot faster. Anyway, it was a lot of fun, the car was superb, we all enjoyed ourselves immensely. My lap time wasn't too bad in the end.
I'm only pulling your leg, dear. As Zip says, it's about having fun. The fact that you can't drive is besides the point.
Old 03 August 2015, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I'm only pulling your leg, dear. As Zip says, it's about having fun. The fact that you can't drive is besides the point.
I was under the direction of a very experienced instructor. That was an early practise lap. I can drive fine thank you. In fact I was faster than Richard Meaden in a Porsche 991 Carrera S according to Fastestlaps. (TBH something must have gone wrong on that lap).

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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
I was under the direction of a very experienced instructor. That was an early practise lap. I can drive fine thank you. In fact I was faster than Richard Meaden in a Porsche 991 Carrera S according to Fastestlaps. (TBH something must have gone wrong on that lap).
Old 03 August 2015, 05:41 PM
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The camera car has nice enough lines to my inexperienced eyes.
Old 03 August 2015, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
The 11th Commandment - though shalt not be a complete ****.
Old 03 August 2015, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
The camera car has nice enough lines to my inexperienced eyes.
He was 1.6s faster overall - he's got a fair bit of track experience. I think people are only looking at the cool down/move over lap. The first one was okay.

I wish I hadn't posted it now.

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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
He was 1.6s faster overall - he's got a fair bit of track experience. I think people are only looking at the cool down/move over lap. The first one was okay.

I wish I hadn't posted it now.
I did warn you.
Old 03 August 2015, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I did warn you.
A list of your track times please. And videos.
Old 03 August 2015, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
A list of your track times please. And videos.
No videos and I can barely recall my lap-times. I remember clipping the apex a couple of times, though.
Old 03 August 2015, 06:27 PM
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Don't be mardy Matt. Your lines that can be seen before your cool down would benefit from copying the camera car, that is all I can say. I am trying to go into corners backwards but am not there yet. I keep ripping bumpers off trying though.


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