Final Remap on my v3 type r
18 October 2013, 12:07 PM
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Ok, so if area52 and Rcm are the same who's is accurate ?
Scooby clinic or the above !
Always makes me laugh when someone has a high figure and a low one it's always the high one the believe.
Scooby clinic or the above !
Always makes me laugh when someone has a high figure and a low one it's always the high one the believe.
18 October 2013, 12:23 PM
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18 October 2013, 12:32 PM
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I ran a 20G for years on two 2.1 Strokers, a 2.35 and a 2.0L STi engine with the full works of supporting mods and didn't come close to your figure, even with methanol.
I can't see how a 20G (Non billet) can flow enough air for a figure like that. if it was possible to make 445 BHP from a non billet 20G on Vpower alone it would have been done by now.
I smell sh1te.
I can't see how a 20G (Non billet) can flow enough air for a figure like that. if it was possible to make 445 BHP from a non billet 20G on Vpower alone it would have been done by now.
I smell sh1te.
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18 October 2013, 01:05 PM
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"20g" doesn't mean a fat lot..... knowing the airflow of the wheel in THIS turbo helps, regardless of what it's being "labelled" as.
If we assume the wheel is able to shift 44lb/min. All things being equal you may be able to conclude a potential power output of 440bhp. However, things are never equal...... especially where the Subaru is concerned.
Based on what we know about the specification of the car and what fuel it was running for these figures, it is (very) highly unlikely that this type of output is physically possible on a "normal" 20g.
Assuming the dyno run method was representative, you have to assume that something else is not what it appears, with regard to the specification.
If you want to look at the dyno run specifically, figures have been corrected UP based on the inlet vs ambient temps recorded. This is a whole can of worms, but in the context of this discussion, won't be having the kind of impact that I suspect you guys are alluding to (like an increase over the norm by 40bhp or so). So that's a moot point.
Of course you need to look further.....
A "20g" is a piddler of a turbo..... so would it be able to make this sort of power this high up the rev range (near to 7k), on this type of engine spec. I doubt it very much - again starts to lean towards a "bigger/better" spec than what is being stated.
If we assume the wheel is able to shift 44lb/min. All things being equal you may be able to conclude a potential power output of 440bhp. However, things are never equal...... especially where the Subaru is concerned.
Based on what we know about the specification of the car and what fuel it was running for these figures, it is (very) highly unlikely that this type of output is physically possible on a "normal" 20g.
Assuming the dyno run method was representative, you have to assume that something else is not what it appears, with regard to the specification.
If you want to look at the dyno run specifically, figures have been corrected UP based on the inlet vs ambient temps recorded. This is a whole can of worms, but in the context of this discussion, won't be having the kind of impact that I suspect you guys are alluding to (like an increase over the norm by 40bhp or so). So that's a moot point.
Of course you need to look further.....
A "20g" is a piddler of a turbo..... so would it be able to make this sort of power this high up the rev range (near to 7k), on this type of engine spec. I doubt it very much - again starts to lean towards a "bigger/better" spec than what is being stated.
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18 October 2013, 01:06 PM
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I was told it's not quite on par with RCMs but I'm sure you are right about Scoobyclinics. I'll let you know though as I'm going to go for a run on the clinics rollers soon to confirm my results.
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18 October 2013, 02:28 PM
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"20g" doesn't mean a fat lot..... knowing the airflow of the wheel in THIS turbo helps, regardless of what it's being "labelled" as.
If we assume the wheel is able to shift 44lb/min. All things being equal you may be able to conclude a potential power output of 440bhp. However, things are never equal...... especially where the Subaru is concerned.
Based on what we know about the specification of the car and what fuel it was running for these figures, it is (very) highly unlikely that this type of output is physically possible on a "normal" 20g.
Assuming the dyno run method was representative, you have to assume that something else is not what it appears, with regard to the specification.
If you want to look at the dyno run specifically, figures have been corrected UP based on the inlet vs ambient temps recorded. This is a whole can of worms, but in the context of this discussion, won't be having the kind of impact that I suspect you guys are alluding to (like an increase over the norm by 40bhp or so). So that's a moot point.
Of course you need to look further.....
A "20g" is a piddler of a turbo..... so would it be able to make this sort of power this high up the rev range (near to 7k), on this type of engine spec. I doubt it very much - again starts to lean towards a "bigger/better" spec than what is being stated.
If we assume the wheel is able to shift 44lb/min. All things being equal you may be able to conclude a potential power output of 440bhp. However, things are never equal...... especially where the Subaru is concerned.
Based on what we know about the specification of the car and what fuel it was running for these figures, it is (very) highly unlikely that this type of output is physically possible on a "normal" 20g.
Assuming the dyno run method was representative, you have to assume that something else is not what it appears, with regard to the specification.
If you want to look at the dyno run specifically, figures have been corrected UP based on the inlet vs ambient temps recorded. This is a whole can of worms, but in the context of this discussion, won't be having the kind of impact that I suspect you guys are alluding to (like an increase over the norm by 40bhp or so). So that's a moot point.
Of course you need to look further.....
A "20g" is a piddler of a turbo..... so would it be able to make this sort of power this high up the rev range (near to 7k), on this type of engine spec. I doubt it very much - again starts to lean towards a "bigger/better" spec than what is being stated.
18 October 2013, 05:31 PM
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The correction method would not relate to the expected difference we're seeing here. It's a moot point in that respect.
Based on the facts presented, I wouldn't suggest the dyno operator has dropped a bollock either. One possible question would be whether the result was repeatable on the day, or a one off spurious.
More info needed.
Based on the facts presented, I wouldn't suggest the dyno operator has dropped a bollock either. One possible question would be whether the result was repeatable on the day, or a one off spurious.
More info needed.
20 October 2013, 07:46 PM
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20 October 2013, 08:07 PM
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26 October 2013, 02:16 PM
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Who cares about figures, any classic with your spec is a bloody hoot to drive. As long as it makes you grin like a Cheshire cat then good for you.
Plus, a dyno plot with 445 at the top will help come sale time to someone other than us..lol..
But come on, put us out of our misery. What did it pull on a meth mix ??
Plus, a dyno plot with 445 at the top will help come sale time to someone other than us..lol..
But come on, put us out of our misery. What did it pull on a meth mix ??
26 October 2013, 04:50 PM
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Agree regarding the meth, I saw about 8% increase in bhp and a huge chunk more torque. Best pound for pound mod I did. It transformed the feel of the car.
09 November 2013, 09:57 AM
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Yea the difference with the 20% meth was very noticeable went from 445bhp to 470 bhp and the torque went from 412lbft to 444lbft feels savage on the road.
10 November 2013, 10:35 PM
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