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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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I can't say I found it funny.....
I reckon by p3 the thread might be
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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Sorry mate, that was a cheap joke. Accept my apologies.
Its ok I found it quite funny
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
I can't say I found it funny.....
What.......a nearly 60 year old ninja store detective?
Ha she was ruthless and fearless

Oh I forgot ...... You work in a shop
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Nice to see what my taxes go on. Maybe if I work 7 days instead of 6 maybe the scroungers could have a better xmas
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by donny andi
What.......a nearly 60 year old ninja store detective?
Ha she was ruthless and fearless

Oh I forgot ...... You work in a shop
No need for the roll eyes really. When you are affected by shoplifters directly, it's not so funny is all I feel. However, you are right, the part of the programme with her was a bit light relief.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
No need for the roll eyes really. When you are affected by shoplifters directly, it's not so funny is all I feel. However, you are right, the part of the programme with her was a bit light relief.
I worked for a year or so at Woolworths in the IT dept, as part of this we all had to do a week in a store and then again at Christmas and the level of shoplifting was amazing, I remember a young girl on the Computer Games/CD counter, a "Customer" asked her to check something whilst she was stocking up and she put a pile of PS2 Games down on the counter, cant remember which one but about 12 or so copies of a latest title that came in, the "Customer" grabbed them and legged it, she turned round and he and the games were gone, probably £400 or so, just gone, she was crying, it was awful.

I have known a few owners of smaller shops, one friend made her own childrenswear, she worked hard, very hard but people were always swiping stuff, some days more stick went via theft than was sold, one day it was picked clean by travelling folk, she gave up in the end. Another bloke had a shoe shop and sold all the popular brands, it wasnt unheard of for some ****** to come in, try some shoes on the run off in them.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Another bloke had a shoe shop and sold all the popular brands, it wasnt unheard of for some ****** to come in, try some shoes on the run off in them.
The shoe thieves.....

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Scum

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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First of all, I'd gladly pay a little more tax this week to enable him and his wife to be sterilised.

Secondly, why the **** doesn't the lazy, scrounging **** pick a paint brush up and fix his house and garden himself?
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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When will you people stop reading The Daily Mail? Even if the story is completely true down to every last detail all it does is what it is deisgned to do... make you 'outraged'! You can rest assured that the rag paid them for their story..... which is hardly doling out the harsh treatment they claim to want for these people!

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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That may well be true, Chris.

But the fact that they actually exist....
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:45 PM
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That may well be true, Chris.

But the fact that they actually exist....
We know they exist, they have for decades now. We can't do anything about it. The governments past and present haven't done/won't do anything about it despite what they say so what's the use in reading about it in the likes of The Daily Mail who themselves don't want it to stop as 'outrage' sells papers!
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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Some of us just like to be able to froth at the mouth once in a while.

Leave us to it - it'll pass
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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What a 5hithole have they no shame ..........
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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The property looks quite modern and sound from the outside. All that damp on the inside must be just from a lack of ventilation, they should try opening a window from time to time.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
We know they exist, they have for decades now. We can't do anything about it. The governments past and present haven't done/won't do anything about it despite what they say so what's the use in reading about it in the likes of The Daily Mail who themselves don't want it to stop as 'outrage' sells papers!
Disgraceful as it is, I believe the official stats show there are less than 100 "families" with 9 kids or more on benefits like this, and less than 10 with 13 or more

the worry is, most seem to end up on Jeremy Kyle or in the Mail!!!
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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That family is a ******* disgrace. Just look at that house... How can they live in a house with walls that grotty and dirty? It looks as if they are living in a slum. All he needs to do is get up off his ******* backside and give the entire house a lick of paint and probably some polyfiller too. Their carpets are a total mess and their garden is just appalling. There is no pride at all in that family. Scum and a waste of space in this world the whole lot of them.

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
That family is a ******* disgrace. Just look at that house... How can they live in a house with walls that grotty and dirty? It looks as if they are living in a slum. All he needs to do is get up off his ******* backside and give the entire house a lick of paint and probably some polyfiller too. Their carpets are a total mess too and their garden is just appalling. There is no pride at all in that family. Scum and a waste of space in this world the whole lot of them.
Before they even pick up a paint brush they are more in need of a ******* wash first...
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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I seriously cannot believe how a family can live in such grotty conditions like that, especially with toddlers around. I think you almost verge on mentally wrong/something not right in the head if those adults think it's fine to live like that which is what they've been doing.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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'Lee really wants to work but he needs to do something outside because he has emphysema and it will help his lungs.'

He could give up the **** and cut the grass for starters.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Dthe worry is, most seem to end up on Jeremy Kyle or in the Mail!!!
That's the media in this country for you. Still they'll have to wind their neck in when the new Royal Charter is put in place.....


.... oh hang on, no they won't because it's got no teeth thanks once again to the spineless politicians!!!
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Disgraceful as it is, I believe the official stats show there are less than 100 "families" with 9 kids or more on benefits like this, and less than 10 with 13 or more

the worry is, most seem to end up on Jeremy Kyle or in the Mail!!!
No, the worry is that these 'less than 110 families' with that many kids on benefits very likely make up a grossly disproportionate number of the total number of families with that many kids in the entire country. Let's face it, how many couples who could actually pay for the upbringing of 9 or more kids out of their own pockets would choose to spawn so many?
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Disgraceful as it is, I believe the official stats show there are less than 100 "families" with 9 kids or more on benefits like this, and less than 10 with 13 or more

the worry is, most seem to end up on Jeremy Kyle or in the Mail!!!
But the problem is, if something doesn't change, this is only going to get much worse. Not to mention, how many 'families' are there on benefits like this, but with 'only' 6/7/8 kids? I suppose it depends where you live and what you see around you, but the whole abuse of the benefits system is a problem and whilst some may argue it's not that big of a problem, it will be.

When I was growing up, being on benefits wasn't something to be proud of/happy with but compared to when my parents were growing up...then it was something to be ashamed of. Now, somehow, there is no shame at all (and there shouldn't be when it comes to falling back on a system there to help in times of need) to the point of people thinking they are owed a living, and are actually happy to be supported fully by the state. While it may not be a huge issue now (some may say), what happens in the next generation when these 9 kids+ have 9 kids of their own each, all dragged up the same way? I don't know what the solution is, as it's a problem with people's mentality.

For the record, I am not one of these people that demonises the poor (I am very much at the low end of the scale) nor do I think people claiming benefits are the root of all evil. I do, however, feel that a change needs to come to those who think they are entitled to a free ride.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 05:32 AM
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Huge amounts of the welfare budget just goes to the banks via the BTL landlords who they finance. What the BTL landlords don't pay to the banks in interest they pocket. Lending more money inflates the market, and the more the DWP must shell out to cover the costs of (inflating)rent in turn fueling demand for this 'investment' class in a vicious circle. On top of that the taxpayer now covers what you might call macro risk, Market crisis. It's one big wealth extraction from the taxpayer, and an attempt to corner an asset class which we all need to live. Quite literally our property has been so inflated that we can't afford to live in it anymore; housing benefit is a testament to that, plus help to buy. Of course blame people at the bottom.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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Huge amounts of the welfare budget just goes to the banks via the BTL landlords who they finance. What the BTL landlords don't pay to the banks in interest they pocket. Lending more money inflates the market, and the more the DWP must shell out to cover the costs of (inflating)rent in turn fueling demand for this 'investment' class in a vicious circle. On top of that the taxpayer now covers what you might call macro risk, Market crisis. It's one big wealth extraction from the taxpayer, and an attempt to corner an asset class which we all need to live. Quite literally our property has been so inflated that we can't afford to live in it anymore; housing benefit is a testament to that, plus help to buy. Of course blame people at the bottom.
The scale of the problem of what you are suggesting would depend on what percentage of welfare claimants are tentants of private BTL landlords, so what's that percentage? Is it significantly large enough to be an issue to the tax payer?
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Huge amounts of the welfare budget just goes to the banks via the BTL landlords who they finance. What the BTL landlords don't pay to the banks in interest they pocket. Lending more money inflates the market, and the more the DWP must shell out to cover the costs of (inflating)rent in turn fueling demand for this 'investment' class in a vicious circle. On top of that the taxpayer now covers what you might call macro risk, Market crisis. It's one big wealth extraction from the taxpayer, and an attempt to corner an asset class which we all need to live. Quite literally our property has been so inflated that we can't afford to live in it anymore; housing benefit is a testament to that, plus help to buy. Of course blame people at the bottom.
Well said
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
For the record, I am not one of these people that demonises the poor (I am very much at the low end of the scale) nor do I think people claiming benefits are the root of all evil. I do, however, feel that a change needs to come to those who think they are entitled to a free ride.
And that change is promised by every government we get yet nothing ever changes!
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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And that change is promised by every government we get yet nothing ever changes!
I think at least this lot have tried with caps etc, not like Gordy who couldn't throw enough money at them.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
The scale of the problem of what you are suggesting would depend on what percentage of welfare claimants are tentants of private BTL landlords, so what's that percentage? Is it significantly large enough to be an issue to the tax payer?
The scale is massive.

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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
But the problem is, if something doesn't change, this is only going to get much worse. Not to mention, how many 'families' are there on benefits like this, but with 'only' 6/7/8 kids? I suppose it depends where you live and what you see around you, but the whole abuse of the benefits system is a problem and whilst some may argue it's not that big of a problem, it will be.

When I was growing up, being on benefits wasn't something to be proud of/happy with but compared to when my parents were growing up...then it was something to be ashamed of. Now, somehow, there is no shame at all (and there shouldn't be when it comes to falling back on a system there to help in times of need) to the point of people thinking they are owed a living, and are actually happy to be supported fully by the state. While it may not be a huge issue now (some may say), what happens in the next generation when these 9 kids+ have 9 kids of their own each, all dragged up the same way? I don't know what the solution is, as it's a problem with people's mentality.

For the record, I am not one of these people that demonises the poor (I am very much at the low end of the scale) nor do I think people claiming benefits are the root of all evil. I do, however, feel that a change needs to come to those who think they are entitled to a free ride.
plenty of hard working families claim benenfits -- isn't that the real issue
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