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Old 10 October 2013, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
I never said straightforward, quite the opposite actually

But in my experience it is worth while and will help with spool up and power band (what ever we are calling it now ive lost track ) and while using larger turbos anything that will help spool it earlier is definitely worthwhile imo
Didn't say you did

At a base level the pain of the mod is not worth the benefit of the gain. The end
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Didn't say you did

At a base level the pain of the mod is not worth the benefit of the gain. The end
In your opinion, that is fine.

In my opinion from a convenience, looks and gain point of view, it would definitely still be one of the first mods I do to any scooby just for the benefit of the ease of working on the car and been able to remove so much extra crap from the engine bay. pretty much eliminates the need for any stripping of any parts to do anything once it is done.

Always hated how cluttered and messy and difficult everything is to get to, I fitted one standard engine once, never again, everything 15x more difficult that it really ought to be, a whole day affair, mine i can have out within a couple of hours by myself, or put back together in pretty much the same

Just my two cents, no one has to agree with it, but i feel it is definitely worth considering.
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
In your opinion, that is fine.

In my opinion from a convenience, looks and gain point of view, it would definitely still be one of the first mods I do to any scooby just for the benefit of the ease of working on the car and been able to remove so much extra crap from the engine bay. pretty much eliminates the need for any stripping of any parts to do anything once it is done.

Always hated how cluttered and messy and difficult everything is to get to, I fitted one standard engine once, never again, everything 15x more difficult that it really ought to be, a whole day affair, mine i can have out within a couple of hours by myself, or put back together in pretty much the same

Just my two cents, no one has to agree with it, but i feel it is definitely worth considering.
There can be no argument as far as the aesthetics and ease of working is concerned, the evidence is visual...but any 'gains' need to be measured before their value can be identified. I know I sound like a pedant (which I am ), but that's the only way to make a meaningful decision
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Tyler mate forget about the flipped inlet it's not worth it for the minimal performance gains it gives if it even gives any,unless it was part of your plans from the beginning of your project it's not worth the hassle,my build incorporated it because as I'm going rotated I had to get intercooler pipe work made up anyway so I said to myself I might as well go the whole hog if you get my driftplus I'm losing my aircon.SJ.

Nice one SJ, appreciated bud. Should just get your number and just text ya for advise (Just playing bud)..

JGlanzaV and trails... Thank you both for your knoledge and advise too, but especially thank you both for the banter.. Its good that people stress there opinions.
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Originally Posted by Tyler 1
Nice one SJ, appreciated bud. Should just get your number and just text ya for advise (Just playing bud)..

JGlanzaV and trails... Thank you both for your knoledge and advise too, but especially thank you both for the banter.. Its good that people stress there opinions.
No worries mate always ready to help with AdviceI'm always checking your progress it's a good read and I like the fact your doing what you can yourself which is a good inspiration for others So they know that it's not a Dark Art doing your car yourself and can be achieved with a bit of effort,keep up the good workSJ.
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Originally Posted by Tyler 1
Nice one SJ, appreciated bud. Should just get your number and just text ya for advise (Just playing bud)..

JGlanzaV and trails... Thank you both for your knoledge and advise too, but especially thank you both for the banter.. Its good that people stress there opinions.
Pleasure...it's a burden being right all the time but I do my best to carry it

...good luck
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
No worries mate always ready to help with AdviceI'm always checking your progress it's a good read and I like the fact your doing what you can yourself which is a good inspiration for others So they know that it's not a Dark Art doing your car yourself and can be achieved with a bit of effort,keep up the good workSJ.
Cheers SJ, it is scary i am not going to lie but i enjoy it so much, not bad considering that i work in IT, its people like you that keep me going, there has been quite a few times where i have felt to give up but the support etc helps... Not a good look though when i come into work with filthy hands though, as its a nightmare to clean them after a good session on the car.. Just wish i had more time.

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Pleasure...it's a burden being right all the time but I do my best to carry it

...good luck

Hahahahahahaha you crack me up bud, thank you hopefully by the end of this month car will be ready to be sent off to JGM for the remap.. Fingers and toes crossed ay..
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Originally Posted by Tyler 1
Cheers SJ, it is scary i am not going to lie but i enjoy it so much, not bad considering that i work in IT, its people like you that keep me going, there has been quite a few times where i have felt to give up but the support etc helps... Not a good look though when i come into work with filthy hands though, as its a nightmare to clean them after a good session on the car.. Just wish i had more time.




Hahahahahahaha you crack me up bud, thank you hopefully by the end of this month car will be ready to be sent off to JGM for the remap.. Fingers and toes crossed ay..
In good hands with Simon
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Originally Posted by trails
In good hands with Simon
In the 7 years of owning this car, only Simon has mapped my car
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Its always good to have someone you can trust, if anyone has any advice on rear brakes etc then jump on over to my project thread, as im having a serious dilema!

So when will it be ready for mapping? judging by the list of stuff to be done to mine it looks like i wont be racing this weekend
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Its always good to have someone you can trust, if anyone has any advice on rear brakes etc then jump on over to my project thread, as im having a serious dilema!

So when will it be ready for mapping? judging by the list of stuff to be done to mine it looks like i wont be racing this weekend
It sure is mate..

Well I am just waiting on a set of 800cc injectors and then I can really put back together. No doubt there will be some other issues on the way knowing my luck
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Yesterday I picked up a lateral performance headers and a rcm up pipe, just need some welding done to the collector as there is a minor hole.





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Today I managed to get a little done, but as it was raining not much.. My neighbour saw me standing in the rain with a umbrella and offered me this..


Got the inlet manifold in with the new gaskets, also Managed to clean the block a little as well as taking out a few bolts and copper grease them up.



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800cc injectors should be purchased this week, then just need to get exhaust mani on as well as turbo, and customise the gearbox cradle as it's hitting my 3" down pipe.. So slowly getting there..
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Decent neighbour

Careful though; I had the same set up in the back garden and woke up to find the gazebo in another neighbours front garden
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Nice parts Tyler,you definitely got the modding bugSJ.
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Originally Posted by trails
Decent neighbour

Careful though; I had the same set up in the back garden and woke up to find the gazebo in another neighbours front garden
Indeed bud, it was only up whilst it was pissing down with rain, he saw me getting soaked and asked if I wanted to borrow it...


Originally Posted by stonejedi
Nice parts Tyler,you definitely got the modding bugSJ.
I sure have sj, hopefully that really is it now, as need to save the money for the remap
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Got a little bored whilst waiting for my injectors and timing belt guide...

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Nice project there. JEN
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Be careful with the manifolds when welding them as it is only thin wall 304 stainless, will you do it yourself or get a pro to do it?
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Originally Posted by jennas
Nice project there. JEN
Thanks Jen, wont be as spectacular as yours though..

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Be careful with the manifolds when welding them as it is only thin wall 304 stainless, will you do it yourself or get a pro to do it?
Are the Lateral performance headers 304 Stainless then?

They will be going to a professional today to have all welds done to be on the safe side.
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These turned up today..

My 800cc injectors
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Yes mate they will be 304 stainless.

That some serious injectors! What power are you aiming for?

Will you be getting them flowed and sonically cleaned etc?
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Superb,Should be more then enough for your plans mate with plenty of headroom for the future,I know cars that have run high 500-600 bhp depending on there supporting mods easily with 800cc injectors.SJ.
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Thats what I was just trying to figure out, im running 535hp on 740s!
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Yes mate they will be 304 stainless.

That some serious injectors! What power are you aiming for?

Will you be getting them flowed and sonically cleaned etc?
Not going for big power at all, would like to just see over 450bhp so baby power really. In the future prob 500bhp.

Was going to ask how much it costs to get flowed and sonically cleaned and where to get it done.. That was going to be my next question.

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Superb,Should be more then enough for your plans mate with plenty of headroom for the future,I know cars that have run high 500-600 bhp depending on there supporting mods easily with 800cc injectors.SJ.
Sweet Cheers SJ.. Just waiting on my timing belt guide to turn up and then should be all set to start putting it all back together.
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Was going to ask how much it costs to get flowed and sonically cleaned and where to get it done.. That was going to be my next question.
http://lateralperformance.co.uk/sect...be7c13a041b721SJ.
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Zen also provide that service...price was comparable if a little cheaper iirc
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http://www.simtekuk.co.uk/index.php/...icing/?k=:18::

http://www.emeraldm3d.com/asnu-fuel-...ditioning.html

I would go with emerald personally, dave walker is a great guy, and does wonders with these things!
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
http://www.simtekuk.co.uk/index.php/injector_servicing/?k=:18::



http://www.emeraldm3d.com/asnu-fuel-...ditioning.html



I would go with emerald personally, dave walker is a great guy, and does wonders with these things!



Can i ask why these are so much cheap compared to Lateral performance?

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Originally Posted by trails
Zen also provide that service...price was comparable if a little cheaper iirc
Cheers bud i have emailed them to ask for more info etc
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Originally Posted by Tyler 1
Can i ask why these are so much cheap compared to Lateral performance?
Dont know mate, Had loads done by dave walker in the past.

How much are lateral etc?

Emerald make their own standalone ecus and injectors etc, dave is a tuning legend.

My mate is running a caterham on an emerald ecu with a st170 engine on ITBS on it, goes like the clappers and the support and dvice from dave is second to none


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