Neanderthal,
It takes a few seconds, yes.

That's what I've come to expect from MS tbh, and is what gives me some element of confidence, that they'll do the right thing.

Jayallen,


Cannon Fodder,
I'll be getting the PS4 this Friday, so will be able to give some form of early insight.

The "technically the PS4 is better" is a tad subjective so far, regardless of what the gimps, I mean geeks, are saying. The XBO architecture uses a different model for the GPU, and it's too early to tell if that model is technically "better" or weaker than the PS4. Ultimately though it's a moot point..... it's all about the games. At the moment for me, the XBO is stronger based on the current launch games.

When you're playing COD and BF4, it makes no difference if it's 720p, 900p or 1080p. I'm too absorbed in the gameplay to notice if a soldiers pubic hair is more defined.

Just been playing BF4 on the PC and I'm sweating my **** off, worrying about double tapping the slimey *****..... not looking at graphic fidelity.

The PS4 is being touted as the true gamers machine....... I think they said that last time, so they have a lot to prove this time round.

I doubt we'll say any form of direction on that question for at least 12 months imo.

 

Can anyone advise what I can expect in terms of queues for midnight collections? Is it best to arrive an hour before or so? Maybe a bit more?
I have never bought a console on launch night before but I did not pre order this time round and given it looks like most stores wont have any stock now till early January I wonder if its a good idea to go and get one now.

 

I suppose it depends where you are fetching it from. If it's a large store in a city centre, there could be a long queue. Give the store a call and see what they say. They should now what time people started queuing to get the xBone last week.

Should you be wanting to make some money, put your 24 hour Ebay auction to start now, you'll likely have cash in your hand by lunchtime tomorrow

 

I think it's going to come down to the games available for each machine, rather than the power behind them. No point in having an all powerful machine and only releasing crap games for it.

 

That is the crux of it I think, whoever has the best exclusive titles. I think there will be a lot more people owning both consoles to ensure that they get the best of both.

Plus of course it would seem that Microsoft are very good at securing exclusive titles or earlier releases as well.

I personally will be getting an XBO in the new year just to play some of the games in the pipeline for that, I may even use it as a media hub of sorts in the living room and connect it to my Sky HD and ditch my Blu Ray player.

I will be picking up my PS4 this Friday at 8.00am as I am not in that much of a hurry to pick it up (plus this independent store doesn't do midnight opening ).

The reason I say technically better is due to mainly the RAM used as all the other components seem pretty much well matched.

The other reason I mentioned it was technically better was as the PS3 was supposed to be more powerful than the XBox 360. This rarely translated to the actual games itself where if anything the 360 seemed to have the better games where both consoles had versions of the same game.

Having the better technical capability doesn't seem to translate well into the actual gameplay is what I am getting at, I just hope on this occasion that the reality matches the hype.

But I think whichever console is bought that the owner should be happy with their choice, as the differences would appear to be within a gnat's whisker.

 

Just thought i would post up some helpful information for those of us who did not preorder a PS4 :Get in Asdahttp://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...out-pre-orders
Can anyone advise what I can expect in terms of queues for midnight collections? Is it best to arrive an hour before or so? Maybe a bit more?
I have never bought a console on launch night before but I did not pre order this time round and given it looks like most stores wont have any stock now till early January I wonder if its a good idea to go and get one now.Billy As soon as possible would be my Advice:http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1254...ld-to-be-first.SJ.

 

For anyone still wanting one

http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/26/155-as...order-4202912/

 

I think I will just go to my local one at about 11 ish, and see what its like. I guess most people would pre-order via Game or maybe Tesco but not Asda perhaps? So maybe not much of a queue? If its out the door I will prob just leave it as I am not that desperate for one - not turned my 360 on in 6 months!

 

I just beat you by 100th of a second.SJ.

 

Don't forget the wonders of the internet,EVERYONE KNOWS.SJ.

 

I have one on pre order with zavvi which should arrive friday. But I am half tempted to head over and grab one at Asda just to be safe

 

IMO getting a console at 12 is pure grief. Queue pushers. Wannabe gangsters.running out of stock. Being robbed. There was a riot at asda in Huddersfield when one of the cod's came out.

 

Money taken & email sent confirming that PS4 will be with me very soon. I've no interest in them anymore but that is xmas sorted for this year for one kid

 

I remember going to my local Sainsbury for MW2 release because they were selling it for £18. Queue of 20 when I got there. Doors opened and everyone rushed to games aisle. As I went past Customer Desk the lady said if you are here for CoD get it here so I was at the front of the queue then lol. Those who had been at the front moaned big time until she told them she had 200 copies on each console.

 

Nail, Head, Hit. The geeks can argue all they want about polygons per second etc, but when the PS3 was announced people were banging on about how technically superior it was to the Xbox 360 and yet none of that translated into significantly better versions of games that appeared on both formats; in fact developers found the Ps3 a turn off arguing that it was too complicated!

What matters is how technical potential translates into tangible improvement!

 

I bought my Xbone from Sainsburys on release day without a preorder and I would bet the house that I could pick up a ps4 this Friday from Sainsburys without a preorder too. The store isn't a 24 Hr so there isn't a line of people waiting at 12am as sainsburys don't do midnight release, they open at 7am and I'm pretty sure all Sainsburys stores are the same.

 

PS4s are selling for sub £500 now on e-bay.
Suspect the ASDA collection thing has p*ssed a few people off!
Xbone still selling for c£550.

 

Surely that is because they aren't released yet? Once they are and the non preorder stock disappears then prices will go up. If not then Sony have pulled their finger out and produced a lot more stock.

 

I walked into Argo this morning and picked up an Xbone, i lucky, 3 had just arrived on a delivery... : I asked to buy all 3 but they would only sell me one!

Everywhere else was telling me no more stock until after Xmas..

 

Amazon are currently showing xBones with Fifa in time for Chistmas.

 

It's starting to be a joke now my friend ordered a xbox one two weeks ago he has now received a email from amazon saying it would be delivered after Xmas to say he's not to happy would be a understatementSJ.

 

Amazon did get some Day One Forza edition in yesterday, which people are reporting have already been delivered.

Microsoft are saying they will next ship on December 16th.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...1ff59271ef7432

 

I'm starting to think its all a Big Con now as you can still get a PS4 on launch day if your prepared to pay over £600 from GAME http://www.game.co.uk/en/hardware/pl...ost-_-consolesTalk about trying to get every penny you can get from the consumer.SJ.

 

They're just desperate to avoid going in to administration again.

 

The guy in my local argos told me that they have all their pre order PS4's but will also have some to sell from stock....I'm wondering if it's worth snapping a couple up..

 

According to stockinformer, Argos are running a very strict first-come-first-served one-per-customer policy.

 

I guess thats why they would only let me have one xbone today....

Knowing my luck I'll buy 3 ps4's but there will be enough for everyone two fold...lol

 

Interesting video about load time on the PS4 (they appear to be worse than the XBO):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGjSJwlHK6M#t=512

 

I doubt you're going to get a machine at launch if you haven't pre-ordered.

Edit: I'll take that back based on what has been posted above.

 

Yeah my local Argos have got Xbone for collection, and there are a couple of other local ones showing in stock. Quite surprised - and kind of tempting me away from PS4...