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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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But it's not that simple though is it Les, Because according to Shaids religion we're lower than snakes bellies for being non believers, according your Christianity we will be sent to Hell for Eternity and have red hot pokers rammed up our ar$es for being non believers.

So the whole thing Shaid says about being a good person and what you said about tolerance being a good thing dosen't wash with me, when your 'two' religions look down their noses at non religious types.
Well, that's gods fault. He told us about your lot. We simply agree with him. I don't look down in you guys that much. Probably the same as you look down your nose at me.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
But it's not that simple though is it Les, Because according to Shaids religion we're lower than snakes bellies for being non believers, according your Christianity we will be sent to Hell for Eternity and have red hot pokers rammed up our ar$es for being non believers.

So the whole thing Shaid says about being a good person and what you said about tolerance being a good thing dosen't wash with me, when your 'two' religions look down their noses at non religious types.
Sometimes you read something that just makes you roar, this is a great example

How can you possibly complain about the religious 'looking down their noses' when you more than most sit in judgement and look down your nose a pretty much everyone, religious or not?

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Apart from being your normal Troll self and trying to provoke me into an argument what does your above comment bring to this thread?

Seriously I thought we had an agreement to keep
out of each others way, is this game on again?
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Apart from being your normal Troll self and trying to provoke me into an argument what does your above comment bring to this thread?

Seriously I thought we had an agreement to keep
out of each others way, is this game on again?
It was a perfectly legitimate question. You were getting all high and mighty (forgive the pun) about religious people looking down their noses. You cannot make that claim and at the same time look down your nose at pretty much everyone yourself...can you?

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Apart from being your normal Troll self and trying to provoke me into an argument what does your above comment bring to this thread?

Seriously I thought we had an agreement to keep
out of each others way, is this game on again?
He does have a fair point though. You cannot claim one is being a gayer especially when one is being a gayer themselves.

This thread has taught me something. Muslims and Christians. We have so much in common yet we are so apart. Why should we not unite once and for all and just make fun of atheists instead. It makes perfect logical sense.

We are very much similar faiths with similair beliefs and we both believe non believers go to hell along with gayers. Why should we hate each other? It makes no sense at all.

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Where have I been getting high and mighty? Point it out please?

I don't look down my nose at anyone that doesn't look down there nose at me first.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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He does have a fair point though. You cannot claim one is being a gayer especially when one is being a gayer themselves.

This thread has taught me something. Muslims and Christians. We have so much in common yet we are so apart. Why should we not unite once and for all and just make fun of atheists instead. It makes perfect logical sense.
Lol make fun of Athiests? Bring it on, I know one thing we won't be making death threats or killing people because of it, as for gayers I only take the **** a bit , you lot want to kill them it's not a joke either.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Where have I been getting high and mighty? Point it out please?

I don't look down my nose at anyone that doesn't look down there nose at me first.
How do I do the point finger and laugh smiley using my iPhone?
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Lol make fun of Athiests? Bring it on, I know one thing we won't be making death threats or killing people because of it, as for gayers I only take the **** a bit , you lot want to kill them it's not a joke either.
Oh the old you did it first argument. Come on Sweety.

Hey we wanna kill lots of people but at least we are honest and not closet killers.

It's not as if you guys don't celebrate ruthless killing. Or sentence people to a life of misery.

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Where have I been getting high and mighty? Point it out please?

I don't look down my nose at anyone that doesn't look down there nose at me first.
Well just go back and look at your thread history

Here's a few general groups though

Immigrants
Gay People
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Anyone politically left of centre (or moderate for that matter)
Anyone on benefits
Travellers
I seem to remember recently you decided that even the starving of the 3rd world weren't worthy
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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Picking on the 3rd world.

That is low.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Oh the old you did it first argument. Come on Sweety.

Hey we wanna kill lots of people but at least we are honest and not closet killers.

It's not as if you guys don't celebrate ruthless killing. Or sentence people to a life of misery.
Yes I agree on some of that, but like I said we won't be going around killing people because someone may have upset us..
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Well just go back and look at your thread history

Here's a few general groups though

Immigrants
Gay People
Religious people
Anyone politically left of centre (or moderate for that matter)
Anyone on benefits
Travellers
I seem to remember recently you decided that even the starving of the 3rd world weren't worthy

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Picking on the 3rd world.

That is low.
Like you said Martin, look back at my thread history and you will see I haven't got a problem with Immigration when they can come here and bring something with them, my problem with Immigration is alot of these people bring nothing but take alot..

Martin, I seem to remember saying something along the lines of our money would be better spent at home first rather than sent abroad and end up in some bent politicians pocket, you really can be a drama queen at times, only a twisted woman can twist words the way you can.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Like you said Martin, look back at my thread history and you will see I haven't got a problem with Immigration when they can come here and bring something with them, my problem with Immigration is alot of these people bring nothing but take alot..

Martin, I seem to remember saying something along the lines of our money would be better spent at home first rather than sent abroad and end up in some bent politicians pocket, you really can be a drama queen at times, only a twisted woman can twist words the way you can.
Hmmm, sexism from an atheist.

Tis always best to fix yourself before fixing someone else. Third world governments do tend to lavish it up a bit. Especially the African ones.

I'm sure if you was a poor immigrant with no prospects in your home country you wouldn't jump at the chance for a few freebies in a different country. I'm sure you'll be all stuff upper lipped and mumble about self pride whilst all your mates and peers jumped ship.

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Hmmm, sexism from an atheist.

I'm sure if you was a poor immigrant with no prospects in your home country you wouldn't jump at the chance for a few freebies in a different country. I'm sure you'll be all stuff upper lipped and mumble about self pride whilst all your mates and peers jumped ship.
But I'm not from a poor country and I'm not after freebies, I would rather see my Tax money spent here rather than given to a corrupt country, like say Nigeria.

Does this make me anti 3rd world like Martin is 'trying' to make me out to be? I woulden't say so no.

He's actually laying quite low just now, I'm guessing he's going through my post history looking for all the bad things i've said so he can tell someone lol..

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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I agree, we should look after our own. Screw Nigeria.

In Islam we believe we should look after ourselves, families and neighbours as well as the poor (our local poor).

You are not a third world person. I'm glad you realise. I refer this to my own theory of atheistic ungratefulness and unthankfullness. You could have been a Nigerian born and bred and then accused of being a with. That would be pretty crap.

Many people in the west come to atheism not after being enlightened but after simply being arrogant and ungrateful to their creator for the favours bestowed upon them by... Well god who else . But rather than be grateful or acknowledge his favours you turn around and flick him a couple of v's.

Now you tell me. Are the people who are unfaithful to their own god worth taking serious in a debate?
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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I agree, we should look after our own. Screw Nigeria.

In Islam we believe we should look after ourselves, families and neighbours as well as the poor (our local poor).

You are not a third world person. I'm glad you realise. I refer this to my own theory of atheistic ungratefulness and unthankfullness. You could have been a Nigerian born and bred and then accused of being a with. That would be pretty crap.

Many people in the west come to atheism not after being enlightened but after simply being arrogant and ungrateful to their creator for the favours bestowed upon them by... Well god who else . But rather than be grateful or acknowledge his favours you turn around and flick him a couple of v's.

Now you tell me. Are the people who are unfaithful to their own god worth taking serious in a debate?
Lol, here we go again with the God thing. So all Athiests are ungratefull arrogant and unfaithfull, this is what your saying isn't it?
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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I agree, we should look after our own. Screw Nigeria.

In Islam we believe we should look after ourselves, families and neighbours as well as the poor (our local poor).
Right first off yes this is what I'm saying, we should look after our own and screw Nigeria, why is it 'us' that needs to save the world?

And if you haven't noticed your not in an Islamic country and I'm not a Muslim so I don't particulary care what happens in your religion, it's not my problem.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Right first off yes this is what I'm saying, we should look after our own and screw Nigeria, why is it 'us' that needs to save the world?

And if you haven't noticed your not in an Islamic country and I'm not a Muslim so I don't particulary care what happens in your religion, it's not my problem.
Yeah I agree. Screw Nigeria (well actually they are screwing themselves) but yeah we should look after our own.

On another note you might not be in a Muslim country but this country was saved by a lot of god fearing folk of many religions. Not many atheists. So bare that in mind before you start muslamiking the country.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Lol, here we go again with the God thing. So all Athiests are ungratefull arrogant and unfaithfull, this is what your saying isn't it?
To god they are anyway. I'm glad you find it funny. I find it funny too.
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why doesnt one of your gods (any one i dont mind) just appear on a mountain top and and shoot out some lightning or some other attention grabbing spectacle and announce to the world that he does indeed exist and we will all be in a place of worship by the morning.
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Originally Posted by yabbadoo4
why doesnt one of your gods (any one i dont mind) just appear on a mountain top and and shoot out some lightning or some other attention grabbing spectacle and announce to the world that he does indeed exist and we will all be in a place of worship by the morning.
Simply because they don't bloody exist, that's why, only some people can't come to terms with this as they have devoted large parts of their lives to what is basically the Invisible Man.
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I think this thread has run its course..........
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Yeah I agree. Screw Nigeria (well actually they are screwing themselves) but yeah we should look after our own.

On another note you might not be in a Muslim country but this country was saved by a lot of god fearing folk of many religions. Not many atheists. So bare that in mind before you start muslamiking the country.
What do you mean by saved? from the Germans you mean? how do you know how many Athiests has been involved in saving this country? you simply don't.
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^ this.......
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What do you mean by saved? from the Germans you mean? how do you know how many Athiests has been involved in saving this country? you simply don't.
Simples. There weren't many of you lot around back then. More god fearing folk than pee takers. Now don't get worked up about it.
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Simply because they don't bloody exist, that's why, only some people can't come to terms with this as they have devoted large parts of their lives to what is basically the Invisible Man.
This is it. Many people who believe in god don't dedicate their whole life or a large part of it to the 'cause'.

Why are you atheists so wrong all the time. Stop assuming. At least try and convince us you are the more intelligent beings. Us god types are gullible so we shouldn't find it hard believing you.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:50 PM
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Simples. There weren't many of you lot around back then. More god fearing folk than pee takers. Now don't get worked up about it.
Who's getting worked up about it? I don't care TBH.

You we're now pi$$ takers? you really do have issues Shaid.
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...This thread has taught me something. Muslims and Christians. We have so much in common yet we are so apart. Why should we not unite once and for all and just make fun of atheists instead. It makes perfect logical sense.

We are very much similar faiths with similair beliefs and we both believe non believers go to hell along with gayers. Why should we hate each other? It makes no sense at all.
Shaid, you are a slow learner, but eventually you've learnt the truth via this thread, bingo!

There are two general differences in layman lingo:

1. You (not you personally, but Muslims in general) are multiplying, and Christians are decreasing in number with too many Christians converting to atheism. No wonder the fistful number of Christians are threatened by you (Islam, I mean).

2. Remaining Christians are historically tactful, whereas Muslims don't know jackshirt about tact.

Now you can see why you and them have different bandwagons, hm?
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