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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Oh and BTW people, if you are an animal lover then it's pretty graphic, well, it shows a dogs being shot multiple times and dying on camera.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Jamie that vid is very graphic and unfair,

I wish I didn't watch it now....needs a warning or is it suitable tbh

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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Jamie that vid is very graphic and unfair,

I wish I didn't watch it know....needs a warning or is it suitable tbh
agreed.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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The breeds with very powerful jaws and heads need an outright ban IMHO. Pitbulls are something like x10 over-represented in attack statistics. You can keeps dogs but only if they are less powerful breeds.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Jamie that vid is very graphic and unfair,

I wish I didn't watch it know....needs a warning or is it suitable tbh
Cheers for the warning; I'll avoid watching it.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
The breeds with very powerful jaws and heads need an outright ban IMHO. Pitbulls are something like x10 over-represented in attack statistics. You can keeps dogs but only if they are less powerful breeds.
Plain silly idea imho. What do you classify as powerful? GSD's are pretty powerful, a pack of hungry chihuahua's (like a hundred of them) could be powerful
Some dog breeds/cross-breeds are already banned anyway as they are/can be inherently unstable but how far do you go?

There will always be idiots with access to things that are dangerous, there will always be accidents/incidents where things will go awry. Getting the ban-stick out for everything is just daft.

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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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I'd love to see someone take 100 chiwawas out for a walk. Serial or parallel leads?

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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
Getting the ban-stick out for everything is just daft.
Guns are highly controlled.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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A Yorkshire terrier is an aggressive dog as with a lot of small dogs (they think they are hard due to them being small).
Staffies are good when brought up well and good with people and kids but if not brought up well they do tend to go for other dogs IMO, and they are cheap (free infact) people give puppies away as to why all the chavs have them
Any dog can be aggressive if not brought up right, as with kids etc if not brought up with respect and manners no different to a dog IMO.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Guns are highly controlled.
Well how comes there are a lot in the underground world? Guns are easily accessible if spoken to the right people, like the saying goes 'guns don't kill people, people kill people'.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
A Yorkshire terrier is an aggressive dog as with a lot of small dogs (they think they are hard due to them being small).
Staffies are good when brought up well and good with people and kids but if not brought up well they do tend to go for other dogs IMO, and they are cheap (free infact) people give puppies away as to why all the chavs have them
Any dog can be aggressive if not brought up right, as with kids etc if not brought up with respect and manners no different to a dog IMO.
It's about risk. Some small dogs might be aggressive but they won't be lethal. Some of those breeds were bred to take down cattle and boar, and we think it is cool having them in parks with small kids.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Guns are highly controlled.
That is not an answer and means nothing. Yes guns are controlled, does that mean no one gets hurt by guns? Read more of the thread. Cars require a license to drive them, plenty of **** hits the fan due to careless/dangerous drivers
UK culture is different in general re legal ownership of guns but illegal ownership of guns is still a problem. Same with some banned or restricted dog breeds.

TDW, I know you'd argue black if someone said white anyway
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
I'd love to see someone take 100 chiwawas out for a walk. Serial or parallel leads?
Yeah it would be one helluva picture, whichever lead config
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful

I heard that a Human had shot another Human dead the other day. Something needs doing. All Humans should be banned and put down.

It's the only way...........
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
It's about risk. Some small dogs might be aggressive but they won't be lethal. Some of those breeds were bred to take down cattle and boar, and we think it is cool having them in parks with small kids.
Sorry have to disagree, like I said earlier it's the upbringing.
A big dog can take one bite and do harm yes, and a small dog can do the same harm if left long enough to attack.
I know a lot of people with big and small dogs and have got to say the small ones 'act' more aggressive and want to act boss.
I don't want to argue over it tbf but I'm all for a dog licence thingy idea, that will stop all the people using dogs as a big hard fashion accessory as its them dogs that seem to be in the headlines.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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bustaMOVEs sorted it,i will delete the lot if you would like me to?
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I heard that a Human had shot another Human dead the other day. Something needs doing. All Humans should be banned and put down.

It's the only way...........
We'll start with you
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie
bustaMOVEs sorted it,i will delete the lot if you would like me to?
cool just wish I didn't watch it as I have same dog and it hit home.
It's upto you tbh to remove just I wouldn't want kids watching it but my kids wouldn't be on scoobynet anyway so.....
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Sorry have to disagree, like I said earlier it's the upbringing.
A big dog can take one bite and do harm yes, and a small dog can do the same harm if left long enough to attack.
I know a lot of people with big and small dogs and have got to say the small ones 'act' more aggressive and want to act boss.
I don't want to argue over it tbf but I'm all for a dog licence thingy idea, that will stop all the people using dogs as a big hard fashion accessory as its them dogs that seem to be in the headlines.
I don't care about dogs acting agressive, it's ones that can seriously maim or kill that bother me. We don't need dogs on the street that can easily kill a grown man.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I heard that a Human had shot another Human dead the other day. Something needs doing. All Humans should be banned and put down.

It's the only way...........
Certain dangerous people are taken out of society even if they have no history of attacking people.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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I own a staffordshire bull terrier, and find it very insulting that some people seem to class them as a chav dog.
I agree some owners may be chavs and use their dogs as a status thing but not everyone !!
My staff and other so called devil or dangerous dogs that I know are not all starling beasts that will attack anything in their path.
Personally my dog knows her place and whos boss and has NEVER even looked at biting anyone and would much rather be made a fuss of, she has grown up with children,and other dogs and cats around her for 11 yrs and in that time the only problem I've had is with the cat attacking the dog,he's much more dangerous !
I would gladly pay dog licensing or some sort of insurance if that's what it take for people to be responcible for their dogs.
You can't tar every dog with the same brush just because of a breed, there are two dogs on a farm a have to go to with work, a Jack Russell and English bull terrier, I'll let you guess which one is the one to look out for.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I don't care about dogs acting agressive, it's ones that can seriously maim or kill that bother me. We don't need dogs on the street that can easily kill a grown man.
But people can easily do that, how do you know that everybody on the streets is innocent? It's the same risk imo
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I don't care about dogs acting agressive, it's ones that can seriously maim or kill that bother me. We don't need dogs on the street that can easily kill a grown man.
lol, nice try. Keep repeating that until you get a member on the hook and raged up


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Just to balance things (not that I am all that keen on the "scary" breeds), I had a large chunk of my cheek bitten off (hole through to my mouth) and got close to losing an eye when I was three.

The dog? A Dachshund!

Weirdly it never made me at all nervous of dogs.
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Originally Posted by J pascoe
I own a staffordshire bull terrier, and find it very insulting that some people seem to class them as a chav dog.
I agree some owners may be chavs and use their dogs as a status thing but not everyone !!
My staff and other so called devil or dangerous dogs that I know are not all starling beasts that will attack anything in their path.
Personally my dog knows her place and whos boss and has NEVER even looked at biting anyone and would much rather be made a fuss of, she has grown up with children,and other dogs and cats around her for 11 yrs and in that time the only problem I've had is with the cat attacking the dog,he's much more dangerous !
I would gladly pay dog licensing or some sort of insurance if that's what it take for people to be responcible for their dogs.
You can't tar every dog with the same brush just because of a breed, there are two dogs on a farm a have to go to with work, a Jack Russell and English bull terrier, I'll let you guess which one is the one to look out for.
I'm with you, it's just a shame that all chavs choose these type of dogs as they look more aggressive for them and are generally free to buy with no costs other than feeding them, but you won't see chavs etc with pedigree dogs as the cost good money unless they are drug dealing chavs but it's quite rare.
Rottis are also known as a bad dog with the media but you ask any dog man and they will tell you the same as I did, but it always seems the people that slag the big dogs have no life experience of them.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Just to balance things (not that I am all that keen on the "scary" breeds), I had a large chunk of my cheek bitten off (hole through to my mouth) and got close to losing an eye when I was three.

The dog? A Dachshund!

Weirdly it never made me at all nervous of dogs.
Lol had to google it, back in the day at school I got bitten by a medium sized dog can't remember what it was, took a big gash out of my leg, it was free roaming when all dogs used free roam and was not mandatory for dogs to be on leads etc and tbh it was my fault as I was teasing it and asked for it, and tbf it did put me off dogs until we got one.
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I also drive a subaru !! S**t does make me a chav too ?
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Originally Posted by J pascoe
I also drive a subaru !! S**t does make me a chav too ?
There's no hope for you man! Quick get one of these
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
But people can easily do that, how do you know that everybody on the streets is innocent? It's the same risk imo
We have laws against murder.

Dogs aren't people, they are neither guilty nor innocent, just animals, they can't understand laws.
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Originally Posted by J pascoe
I own a staffordshire bull terrier, and find it very insulting that some people seem to class them as a chav dog.
I agree some owners may be chavs and use their dogs as a status thing but not everyone !!
My staff and other so called devil or dangerous dogs that I know are not all starling beasts that will attack anything in their path.
Personally my dog knows her place and whos boss and has NEVER even looked at biting anyone and would much rather be made a fuss of, she has grown up with children,and other dogs and cats around her for 11 yrs and in that time the only problem I've had is with the cat attacking the dog,he's much more dangerous !
I would gladly pay dog licensing or some sort of insurance if that's what it take for people to be responcible for their dogs.
You can't tar every dog with the same brush just because of a breed, there are two dogs on a farm a have to go to with work, a Jack Russell and English bull terrier, I'll let you guess which one is the one to look out for.
Good post.

I've seen chavs as well as homeless people with all sorts of dogs. There's a homeless person in the coast town who have a little, cute Jack Russell. The dog sleeps with him, tucked inside his sleeping bag. There are two rough looking men in another nearby town who have a massive German Shepherd dog. It's wrong to stereotype the owners with the breed of the dog. There's an owner from a middle class family background with a black Lab. The way this spoilt-rotten man maltreats his parents-of-the-only-son is disgusting. He's a chav in disguise, and that is not his Lab's fault. I think the Lab should put a chain around his neck and take him for a long walk until his legs give up.
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