Originally Posted by Brun

What can't the android run Jack?

Originally Posted by chopperman

How much different is the s4 from the s3 ? as far as i can see it has a slightly faster cpu and a slightly higher mp camera. I dont really see any massive innovations between the s2 to s4 like i see no major innovations between the iphone 4 to 5. I'm no teckno geek so maybe the innovations have escaped me but when i looked at the s3 and s4 and the contract price difference i went for the s3. I find the s3 a far better device than my iphone 4 for surfing the net, downloading and picture quality from the camera and screen. The other thing i love is how the keypad disappears when i put the phone to my ear then reappears when i look at the phone. The iphone was a pain for muting or dialing other numbers while i was talking on the phone. The other pain with the iphone is if the home button is held down in your pocket it goes to voice control and starts phoning people, even though the phone was locked. I went to apple and complained about that and was told a future update would fix this. 3 updates later and the problem was still present.

Originally Posted by JackClark

Doomed. The iPhone and Apple are doomed. Again.

Originally Posted by JackClark

Bitterness, facts, I guess you could confuse the two. Like innovation and duplication, easy mistake.

Originally Posted by jonc

There are a few nice touches to the S4 like it being touch free using gestures, eye tracking so it automatically scrolls to where you are looking on the screen and automatically stops video if you take your eyes away from the phone and loads of different sensors measuring atmospheric pressure, humidity, proximity and geomagnetic sensors. You may not see the immediate benefits but developers will soon be releasing apps to take advantage of these features and could possibly provide an alternative to traditional outdoor GPS tracking devices in the future for example.

I'm no fan of Samsung and only contribute to these types of threads purely for the entertainment value and provide a 'balance' to these threads. I have an iPhone 4, it does what I need it to do, but I do acknowledge innovation when I see it, be it from Samsung, Apple or any other mobile manufacturer.

Originally Posted by JackClark

And put the original iPhone on top of your picture and you'll see where the innovation came from. Deny it all you like, nothing has changed the mobile landscape like the iPhone. Adding bigger numbers and software trickery isn't innovation.

And thanks for the picture, shows just how much nicer iOS is compared to hacked Android.

Originally Posted by jonc

I don't deny Apple has revolutionised how we use mobile phones today with their original iPhone. But as of late, there has been nothing innovative about their phones.

Originally Posted by jonc

I don't deny Apple has revolutionised how we use mobile phones today with their original iPhone. But as of late, there has been nothing innovative about their phones.

Originally Posted by chopperman

The apple iphone was the original smart phone and did change the way we use our phones but it wasn't quite as innovative as the isheep make out. We had PDA's for years before. All apple did was put a phone and PDA together. Its like saying the ipod was ground braking. Not really as we had mobile music players since 1980 with the sony walkman. Once solid state memory was invented and music codecs like mp3 it was obvious it would all come together. The way apple fans carry on you would think they invented the wheel.

Originally Posted by dpb

Bold isn't anything like an iphone!

Originally Posted by JackClark

Here's the problem, you loathe Apple so you'd never say they did some good. I mean you even call Apple users sheep whilst boasting that Android sells more phones. Have a think about that PDA and how great browsing was on it, then remember that the great experience Apple introduced back then enables you to use your Android today. Credit where it's due.

Originally Posted by JackClark

First's don't come easy Jon and Apple have been first at everything but adding a few bigger numbers. All the features you mention as Android innovation, just software and available for the iPhone.

Look at the construction methods for the iPhone 5, innovative.

Originally Posted by jonc

In what ways is the construction method innovative?

Originally Posted by chopperman

The apple iphone was the original smart phone

Originally Posted by Galifrey

All apple really did was market a design that the mass users who didn't understand smartphones would buy!

Originally Posted by Galifrey

No it wasn't, not even close to one of the first. HTC were making smartphones before Apple even launched the ipod!

All apple really did was market a design that the mass users who didn't understand smartphones would buy! Sure they have had some innovative software and a more friendly user interface than say the XDA which came 5 years before the Iphone.

Originally Posted by neil-h

Tbh that for me is one of Apples biggest innovations, making smartphones/mp3 players/tablets marketable to the masses.

Originally Posted by chopperman

I wish you hadn't just quoted that sentence rather than the whole post as it makes me look like an isheep context is everything / or lack off on the internet forums
Of course you are correct, i actually had a samsung smart phone before the iphone came out. It was nasty with samsungs own OS which is why they probably got Google to do that side of things later on.

Originally Posted by Galifrey

Absolutely, it was a very good bit or marketing, Apples real strong suit is marketing tech to people scared of tech.

Originally Posted by JackClark

The marketing department did an awesome job writing the operating system. You should be slating Samsung rather than Apple, all they did was market Apples ideas.

If you'd accept that Apple have changed your life for the better you could spend your energy on positive things, all this hate is not good for you.

I've had Android phones, Nokia and Blackberry too.