Carbone Lorraine RC5+
30 May 2013, 05:18 PM
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Gents, lets not have this thread sidetracked by a row about "who said what and when" (especially if you can't find evidence to post to substantiate your claims).
Both parties have had a chance to have their say. Leave it now, please and let others post their experiences to help the OP make an informed choice.
Both parties have had a chance to have their say. Leave it now, please and let others post their experiences to help the OP make an informed choice.
30 May 2013, 06:24 PM
#32
I'm done, tell him to stop following me.
And as for the cl pad choices I would use the rc6 again or xp10 for the heavier car like newage etc, I would even love to try the pagid rs series pad.
For a lighter car I would use the cl rc5 or xp8 as I belive they are not as harsh.
And as for the cl pad choices I would use the rc6 again or xp10 for the heavier car like newage etc, I would even love to try the pagid rs series pad.
For a lighter car I would use the cl rc5 or xp8 as I belive they are not as harsh.
Last edited by bustaMOVEs; 30 May 2013 at 06:27 PM.
31 May 2013, 08:38 AM
#33
Tell him to stop following me lol 
what are you like 10 ?
Ok just to clear a few thing up , I do rate the CL pads , I have always rated the CL pads , what we didn't like about them is they are hard on discs and paintwork , I started offering the CL5 pads about 5 years ago , see this thread , you will see what I thought about the RC5
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...ndard-car.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...s-upgrade.html
Again on this thread I am again saying the RC5 was good , but check out post 27 which is what I am saying negatively about the RC6 , that doesn't seem to be sinking into that head of yours
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...th-4-pots.html
More threads from customers we supplied
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...rake-pads.html
Then we started seeing some threads like this after some long term use
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...my-alloys.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...-lorraine.html
Now I could go on and on about how good these pads are , but they are hard on discs , the discs will wear down and you get metal filings on your wheels and up the side of the car which if it rains will stick and go rusty , no ifs or but's , it will happen , because of this we stopped advertising pads for those who have nice road cars that they take on the track , now is this getting through to you , do you understand what I am saying , and have been saying all along ?
Now onto the RC5+ , these are a new compound which is aimed at fast road / track use without the problems associated with the RC5 , 6 and 8's , we have been running the RC5+ for a few months now , in Bens car that see's quite a bit of track work , they have done over 2k miles on them , mostly road and a few track days on them so far , the dust is nothing like that of the RC5 compound , there is no noticeable disc wear which means no metal filings sticking to the wheels or side of the car , the wheels have little dust on them , which washes off very easily.
One of his old cars we fitted RC6's too a few years ago and they were very very hard on the discs and paintwork , he wore through a pair of discs in less than 2k miles , at night braking hard you had loads of sparks coming out of the wheel lol , funny to watch but not so funny cleaning it all off the car later on !
Just taken a couple of photo's of his discs which show no wear
You can see the dark area's on the discs which shows they are getting a very hard time
There is no juddering , just fade free braking again and again , the only downside is the squeeking you can get at low speed low pressure braking , it does make it better by applying some Cera Tec which we now stock
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Hopefully this will add further info to the thread , that will help anyone else who is looking at these
Cheers Ian
what are you like 10 ?Ok just to clear a few thing up , I do rate the CL pads , I have always rated the CL pads , what we didn't like about them is they are hard on discs and paintwork , I started offering the CL5 pads about 5 years ago , see this thread , you will see what I thought about the RC5
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...ndard-car.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...s-upgrade.html
Again on this thread I am again saying the RC5 was good , but check out post 27 which is what I am saying negatively about the RC6 , that doesn't seem to be sinking into that head of yours
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...th-4-pots.html
More threads from customers we supplied
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...rake-pads.html
Then we started seeing some threads like this after some long term use
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...my-alloys.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...-lorraine.html
Now I could go on and on about how good these pads are , but they are hard on discs , the discs will wear down and you get metal filings on your wheels and up the side of the car which if it rains will stick and go rusty , no ifs or but's , it will happen , because of this we stopped advertising pads for those who have nice road cars that they take on the track , now is this getting through to you , do you understand what I am saying , and have been saying all along ?
Now onto the RC5+ , these are a new compound which is aimed at fast road / track use without the problems associated with the RC5 , 6 and 8's , we have been running the RC5+ for a few months now , in Bens car that see's quite a bit of track work , they have done over 2k miles on them , mostly road and a few track days on them so far , the dust is nothing like that of the RC5 compound , there is no noticeable disc wear which means no metal filings sticking to the wheels or side of the car , the wheels have little dust on them , which washes off very easily.
One of his old cars we fitted RC6's too a few years ago and they were very very hard on the discs and paintwork , he wore through a pair of discs in less than 2k miles , at night braking hard you had loads of sparks coming out of the wheel lol , funny to watch but not so funny cleaning it all off the car later on !
Just taken a couple of photo's of his discs which show no wear
You can see the dark area's on the discs which shows they are getting a very hard time
There is no juddering , just fade free braking again and again , the only downside is the squeeking you can get at low speed low pressure braking , it does make it better by applying some Cera Tec which we now stock
]Hopefully this will add further info to the thread , that will help anyone else who is looking at these
Cheers Ian
Last edited by Godspeed Brakes; 31 May 2013 at 10:57 AM.
31 May 2013, 11:03 PM
#34
I'm done, tell him to stop following me.
And as for the cl pad choices I would use the rc6 again or xp10 for the heavier car like newage etc, I would even love to try the pagid rs series pad.
For a lighter car I would use the cl rc5 or xp8 as I belive they are not as harsh.
And as for the cl pad choices I would use the rc6 again or xp10 for the heavier car like newage etc, I would even love to try the pagid rs series pad.
For a lighter car I would use the cl rc5 or xp8 as I belive they are not as harsh.
goodspeed only advice on parts which he already sells,
parts not from him are crap but he change mind when he stock them and try sell it
he could not take first ebc blues as bren@apex took all and guess what he did complain on everything and still does,
he tried to tell everybody as 10 years old design so heavy cp7040 is the best caliper kit ,even better than near to 3k kit with 5570 as i remember
of course with hes discs
what a joke
31 May 2013, 11:10 PM
#35
+1
goodspeed only advice on parts which he already sells,
parts not from him are crap but he change mind when he stock them and try sell it
he could not take first ebc blues as bren@apex took all and guess what he did complain on everything and still does,
he tried to tell everybody as 10 years old design so heavy cp7040 is the best caliper kit ,even better than near to 3k kit with 5570 as i remember
of course with hes discs
what a joke
goodspeed only advice on parts which he already sells,
parts not from him are crap but he change mind when he stock them and try sell it
he could not take first ebc blues as bren@apex took all and guess what he did complain on everything and still does,
he tried to tell everybody as 10 years old design so heavy cp7040 is the best caliper kit ,even better than near to 3k kit with 5570 as i remember
of course with hes discs
what a joke
now again in English so we can understand.....
31 May 2013, 11:20 PM
#37
I'm done, tell him to stop following me.
And as for the cl pad choices I would use the rc6 again or xp10 for the heavier car like newage etc, I would even love to try the pagid rs series pad.
For a lighter car I would use the cl rc5 or xp8 as I belive they are not as harsh.
And as for the cl pad choices I would use the rc6 again or xp10 for the heavier car like newage etc, I would even love to try the pagid rs series pad.
For a lighter car I would use the cl rc5 or xp8 as I belive they are not as harsh.
Which Pagid ir equivalent to the Carbon Loraine 5/6?
I was happy with the Pagid 4-2-1 in the 2-pots so I am tempted to buy them again on the Brembos.
The only downside is the price but I'd rather pay a little more for a pad that works well.
Edit: I now remember I used to have the 4-2-1 on Brembos too and from memory they worked well but also suffered pad deposits.
Also when I came to replace them the pads were cracked(!) despite having life left on them.
So I am looking for something better that works well from cold too.
Last edited by fpan; 31 May 2013 at 11:23 PM.
01 June 2013, 06:09 AM
#38
+1
goodspeed only advice on parts which he already sells,
parts not from him are crap but he change mind when he stock them and try sell it
he could not take first ebc blues as bren@apex took all and guess what he did complain on everything and still does,
he tried to tell everybody as 10 years old design so heavy cp7040 is the best caliper kit ,even better than near to 3k kit with 5570 as i remember
of course with hes discs
what a joke
goodspeed only advice on parts which he already sells,
parts not from him are crap but he change mind when he stock them and try sell it
he could not take first ebc blues as bren@apex took all and guess what he did complain on everything and still does,
he tried to tell everybody as 10 years old design so heavy cp7040 is the best caliper kit ,even better than near to 3k kit with 5570 as i remember
of course with hes discs
what a joke
What ?? You are a retard , go and learn English so we can understand what the hell you are on about !
For your information we sell ,
AP racing , full AP kits and kits with our discs
Performance friction
Brembo
Mintex
Carbone Lorraine
EBC
Ferodo
Pagid
As well as machining and fabricating our own parts
Ect ect
Anything brake related we sell , so go and get your facts right before trying to put a sentence together !
Last edited by Godspeed Brakes; 01 June 2013 at 06:15 AM.
02 June 2013, 04:42 PM
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Hello Ian,
How much are the RC5+ please? Im in need of some new discs and pads all round, however I thought the blue stuff didnt really suit my driving style.
Would these pads work well with your own discs?
Thanks
How much are the RC5+ please? Im in need of some new discs and pads all round, however I thought the blue stuff didnt really suit my driving style.
Would these pads work well with your own discs?
Thanks
02 June 2013, 09:29 PM
#42
Yes they are , I would say on par with something like carbotech XP8's , the RC5+ are very good , but noisy , I'll see if I can make a video of bens car tomorrow to give you some idea , it's low speed low brake pressure where they seem to do it , not everyone's cup of tea on a daily drive
Cheers Ian
Last edited by Godspeed Brakes; 02 June 2013 at 09:30 PM.
04 June 2013, 09:42 AM
#45
They are not that bad lol , here are a couple of vids we did this morning , some braking normal and the one where he was braking to make it squeel
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gods...6f5c7.mp4.html
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gods...8fc68.mp4.html
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gods...456aa.mp4.html
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gods...6c8d9.mp4.html
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gods...a5d6f.mp4.html
It doesn't seem to be a problem when braking normally , they are not bad , but some people want them completely silent , good pads though , very light braking makes them do it
Last edited by Godspeed Brakes; 04 June 2013 at 09:47 AM.
19 June 2013, 09:37 AM
#52
Always seems to be the same two people trying to cause us issues , doesn't bother me , I find it as a stress relief lol
19 June 2013, 09:46 AM
#53
I guess you have to accept there will be one or two trouble making retards on all forums lol , seems to happen on all the ones we go on , par for the course !
Always seems to be the same two people trying to cause us issues , doesn't bother me , I find it as a stress relief lol
Always seems to be the same two people trying to cause us issues , doesn't bother me , I find it as a stress relief lol
19 June 2013, 05:47 PM
#54
Ian,
I use the cera tec as we use alot of pagid oem stuff at work.
Do you put apply it to the contact area where the piston meets the pad or just where the pad sits in the carrier?
I'm thinking of getting carbon lorraine pads next and was wondering if you had used cera tec on the car in the clips or not?
Cheers
James
I use the cera tec as we use alot of pagid oem stuff at work.
Do you put apply it to the contact area where the piston meets the pad or just where the pad sits in the carrier?
I'm thinking of getting carbon lorraine pads next and was wondering if you had used cera tec on the car in the clips or not?
Cheers
James
19 June 2013, 06:14 PM
#55
If its squeal your wanting to stop, it won't as the pad is made with a metallic sintered metirial so it that metirial that squeaks when lightly pressed at low speeds, but when pushed harder it connects better with discs to provide the full effect of pad, rc5+ has got it in and the rc6 has more mixture as to the diffrences in stopping power.
Hth
Hth
20 June 2013, 08:44 AM
#56
Ian,
I use the cera tec as we use alot of pagid oem stuff at work.
Do you put apply it to the contact area where the piston meets the pad or just where the pad sits in the carrier?
I'm thinking of getting carbon lorraine pads next and was wondering if you had used cera tec on the car in the clips or not?
Cheers
James
I use the cera tec as we use alot of pagid oem stuff at work.
Do you put apply it to the contact area where the piston meets the pad or just where the pad sits in the carrier?
I'm thinking of getting carbon lorraine pads next and was wondering if you had used cera tec on the car in the clips or not?
Cheers
James
I have just had RC5+ in to fit to the front and rear of my GTR , so will be fitting them shortly , can't fit them till my new discs turn up , and i'll be powder coating my calipers red at the same time , if they only make as much noise as Bens Civic i'll be happy , i'll update this post when they are on.
21 June 2013, 05:58 PM
#59
If its squeal your wanting to stop, it won't as the pad is made with a metallic sintered metirial so it that metirial that squeaks when lightly pressed at low speeds, but when pushed harder it connects better with discs to provide the full effect of pad, rc5+ has got it in and the rc6 has more mixture as to the diffrences in stopping power.
Hth
Hth
21 June 2013, 06:03 PM
#60
Yes the car in the video has Cera Tech applied , its not that bad to be honest , it was slightly noisier without the paste applied , we apply it where the pad sits in the carrier , and where the pistons sit.
I have just had RC5+ in to fit to the front and rear of my GTR , so will be fitting them shortly , can't fit them till my new discs turn up , and i'll be powder coating my calipers red at the same time , if they only make as much noise as Bens Civic i'll be happy , i'll update this post when they are on.
I have just had RC5+ in to fit to the front and rear of my GTR , so will be fitting them shortly , can't fit them till my new discs turn up , and i'll be powder coating my calipers red at the same time , if they only make as much noise as Bens Civic i'll be happy , i'll update this post when they are on.
Just for future reference how much would discs front and rear be with these pads for road use and the occasional track day?
2003 sti on brembos
Cheers
James