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Old 16 May 2013, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
Why it isn't about racist reporting:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ite-girls.html
Crap article.

Leaders of the Pakistani Muslim community – essentially a Victorian society that has landed like Doctor Who’s Tardis on a liberal, permissive planet it despises
Yes, all the Paklistani's despise this country i'm sure. I know i've just about had it with the weather, the crime rates, the fact that plod never seem to help me, etc, etc. Who know's one day i might be wealthy enough to move. Even if i did leave the UK i would come back every week to claim my benefits and dole money Kidding
Old 16 May 2013, 04:13 PM
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This thread is covering old ground that is well trodden. I've said my piece before and will say it gain. The ethnicity of the victims is completely irrelevant to those partaking in these sick, vile incidents. The fact the victims are white is because they are easier to target (a point already raised by someone else). All this crap about some religious mantra debasing the value of women is just that, crap. The men who have been now thankfully caught would have done what they did to girls who are white, black, yellow or pink! It's deranged male sexual avarice which was allowed to be indulged . Similar to what is happening all over the world and being done by MEN indiscriminately.
Furthermore how many contributors to this thread have looked at a woman/girl and thought or even said 'phwoar I'd give her one!'.

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Old 16 May 2013, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I'll not be basing my opinions on left wing hand wringing Guardian reporting thanks. The Guardian reporter completely misses the points that have been raised above. Of course there will be gangs of whites over here doing the same crimes. Other than the socialist worker type article, the reader comments below (those that haven't been censured by the paper) seem to be more in keeping what people think.
It's a fact though that the majority of the British press enjoy nothing more than a bit of metaphorical Paki bashing
Old 16 May 2013, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
phwoar I'd give her one!.
I have never thought that, ever. I might have looked at a girl and thought yep, she'd get it but in the sense of a hand in marriage, a secure future, a nice new Honda Civic, etc, etc.
Old 16 May 2013, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
It's a fact though that the majority of the British press enjoy nothing more than a bit of metaphorical Paki bashing
Journalistic licence to whip up a bit of a frenzy. I'm surprised Melanie Phillips hasn't been on her soapbox yet!
Old 16 May 2013, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
I have never thought that, ever. I might have looked at a girl and thought yep, she'd get it but in the sense of a hand in marriage, a secure future, a nice new Honda Civic, etc, etc.
Either you're a very disciplined fellow or a good liar
I've done it in the past. I've been with mates white and non white and invariably someone will pipe up 'look at the **** on that' or some other derogatory sexual reference. It's a male thing and thankfully some grow out of it.
Old 16 May 2013, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Journalistic licence to whip up a bit of a frenzy. I'm surprised Melanie Phillips hasn't been on her soapbox yet!
With most of them though it's stretching the term journalistic to its absolute limit. They're just morons who like have nothing more about them other than a bit of racial bigotry to sell their rags full of lies!
Old 17 May 2013, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The men who have been now thankfully caught would have done what they did to girls who are white, black, yellow or pink!
You state that as if it were fact. How can you possibly know that?

Furthermore how many contributors to this thread have looked at a woman/girl and thought or even said 'phwoar I'd give her one!'.
In my thoughts, plenty of times, what's the relevance? I don't see the comparison between that and drugging children and raping them? And even branding them like they are cattle.
Old 17 May 2013, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
You state that as if it were fact. How can you possibly know that?



In my thoughts, plenty of times, what's the relevance? I don't see the comparison between that and drugging children and raping them? And even branding them like they are cattle.
Lets face it and it is a hard fact to swallow and admit to. We as Asians have been looking to white girls as underclass compared to our own for a long time now. I don't know about the higher classes but at the working class that is how things are and have been for a long time. Everyone knew in school that if you want your goolies played with a white girl will be the one to go to as the Asian girls would not even go there. Plus white girls would flash a lot more skin and they would generally be more flirtatious. However this does not mean they are free to abuse. I actually asked a friend of mine who when we were in out early to late teens why the thought of messing about with girls didn't come into our heads. We were more interested in cars and dossing. I suppose it was the fact that if a girl said no one would be too embarrassed to ask her again.

Obviously times have changed because I know a lot more white girls with decent morals than I do Asian girls.

Things are changing in the bigger cities at a slow rate however I live in an apparent bnp area because I know that my wife will be safe from harassment by Pakistani lads. Says it all I suppose.
Old 17 May 2013, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
It's a fact though that the majority of the British press enjoy nothing more than a bit of metaphorical Paki bashing
You take what you want out of a newspaper. Newspapers aren't run by aliens from another planet with zero connection to the public they sell to.
Old 17 May 2013, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
You state that as if it were fact. How can you possibly know that?
Of course it's a fact! It's my opinion and this is Scoobynet so ergo that is a fact.


Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
In my thoughts, plenty of times, what's the relevance? I don't see the comparison between that and drugging children and raping them? And even branding them like they are cattle.
It shows lack of respect for women/girls. Viewing them as pieces of meat. Not in the same category as what those being sent down did but still food for thought.
Old 17 May 2013, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
You take what you want out of a newspaper.
Yes that's why I pay them virtually no attention. Aside from the odd artcile in The Guardian they have nothing they can tell me that I cannot glean for myself by looking at the facts surrounding any newsworthy issue!

Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Newspapers aren't run by aliens from another planet with zero connection to the public they sell to.
No they are run by people with no morals who know exactly how thick most of their readership is and how easily led they are so they fill their rags full of racist nonsense to 'push the right buttons' and keep people buying their sh1te! Remember these are people that hack dead kid's phones or drive people to suicide by publishing blatant lies about them to sell a few papers..... and for some reason they are not ever held to account for their activities either despite that compete **** Cameron spending millions of taxpayers' money on an enquiry to decide on their future regulation!

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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
It shows lack of respect for women/girls. Viewing them as pieces of meat. Not in the same category as what those being sent down did but still food for thought.
We are programmed to find the opposite sex attractive (okay lets ignore homosexuals for the moment), what's it got to do with lacking respect to find someone else sexually attractive?! If one acted out these thoughts, then yes, but just THINKING them? That sounds like religious brainwashing. No-one has the right to force others how to think.

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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
We are programmed to find the opposite sex attractive (okay lets ignore homosexuals for the moment), what's it got to do with lacking respect to find someone else sexually attractive?! If one acted out these thoughts, then yes, but just THINKING them? That sounds like religious brainwashing.
Not really, it is possible to control your thoughts. It is not brainwashing. It is discipline.
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Not really, it is possible to control your thoughts. It is not brainwashing. It is discipline.
I disagree; it's possible to control your actions, but your instinctive thoughts, no. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Old 17 May 2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
I disagree; it's possible to control your actions, but your instinctive thoughts, no. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Try it, a thought enters your head dismiss it and think of something else. Don't dwelve on it.
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
We are programmed to find the opposite sex attractive (okay lets ignore homosexuals for the moment), what's it got to do with lacking respect to find someone else sexually attractive?! If one acted out these thoughts, then yes, but just THINKING them? That sounds like religious brainwashing. No-one has the right to force others how to think.
I am neither religious nor brainwashed. Yes sexual opposites do attract but that's not what I said. I mentioned viewing women/girls as pieces of meat to leer at as disrespectful, without inferring any religious connotation most people would say that is unedifying.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan



No they are run by people with no morals who know exactly how thick most of their readership is and how easily led they are so they fill their rags full of racist nonsense to 'push the right buttons' and keep people buying their sh1te! Remember these are people that hack dead kid's phones or drive people to suicide by publishing blatant lies about them to sell a few papers..... and for some reason they are not ever held to account for their activities either despite that compete **** Cameron spending millions of taxpayers' money on an enquiry to decide on their future regulation!
I've posted this before but in the context of what you are saying Chris I think it's apt to post again. Here's Amanda Platell being reminded what the public actually think when she asserts her employers as bastions of truth and factual reporting.

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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Yes sexual opposites do attract but that's not what I said. I mentioned viewing women/girls as pieces of meat to leer at as disrespectful
And I mentioned that just have such thoughts without acting upon it is a normal human behaviour. If you are talking about having a general attitude of viewing all members of the opposite sex as pieces of meat, then yes that is disrespectful, but that was not your original example. Even then, I see no relevance to these child rapists which you are attempting to equate it to.

And I can't see Youtube, blocked here probably for the best!
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes that's why I pay them virtually no attention. Aside from the odd artcile in The Guardian they have nothing they can tell me that I cannot glean for myself by looking at the facts surrounding any newsworthy issue!



No they are run by people with no morals who know exactly how thick most of their readership is and how easily led they are so they fill their rags full of racist nonsense to 'push the right buttons' and keep people buying their sh1te! Remember these are people that hack dead kid's phones or drive people to suicide by publishing blatant lies about them to sell a few papers..... and for some reason they are not ever held to account for their activities either despite that compete **** Cameron spending millions of taxpayers' money on an enquiry to decide on their future regulation!
Practically every mainstream medium in this country is highly influenced by the press on a daily basis. No matter how you don't pay them any attention, laughably, apart from the odd Guardian report.

Your ignorance in a nutshell as to the arguments of a free press. I'm not going to be bothered arguing with you. Keep reading The Guardian
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
I've posted this before but in the context of what you are saying Chris I think it's apt to post again. Here's Amanda Platell being reminded what the public actually think when she asserts her employers as bastions of truth and factual reporting.

Amanda Platell owned by Question Time audience. - YouTube
Yep Pity they (and the likes of Scoobynutta555) seem unable to grasp the facts, those beng that the press is morally bankrupt and would do anything to sell a few of their lie riddled rags to the thickos that seem unbale to think for themselves and hang on their every word!

With a free press comes responsibility, they have shown they are utterly unworthy of that responsibiluty and I seriously distrust the moral fibre of anyone who supports them or the notion of doing nothing to curb their behaviour as I can only assume they are of the same ilk!
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Practically every mainstream medium in this country is highly influenced by the press on a daily basis. No matter how you don't pay them any attention, laughably, apart from the odd Guardian report.

Your ignorance in a nutshell as to the arguments of a free press. I'm not going to be bothered arguing with you. Keep reading The Guardian
The truth hurts doesn't it? Keep reading the Daily Mail... oooo ... those nasty Muslims
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Another week, another group of child rapists...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-22626994

But the striking similarities between the nature of the races involved in this case and the many before this is just coincidence and in no way points to there being any correlation in any way
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I hope they get the strongest possible punishment and are left in no doubt that there is no room for that sort of behaviour in this country.

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Looks like its only the tip of the iceberg http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22617339

"Police are investigating 54 alleged gangs in a crackdown on child grooming in England and Wales, peers have heard."
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Do people like this get praised or bullied in prison?
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Bummed.
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
Do people like this get praised or bullied in prison?
They get an extremely hard time which is why in 99% of cases they are kept away from the rest of the prison population.

When the riots happened at Strangeways in 1990 some of the general prison population went after the paedophiles who were kept in a separate section of the prison.... I don't think it has ever been fully published as to what happened, but it wasn't pleasant!

The cost of imprisoning people like this must be astronomic, but under current law what else can we do? The death penalty is not something the judicial system or government in this country can be trusted with so that isn't an option... it seems we have no alternative!
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Muslims are uniting to condemn the recent spate of child-grooming cases...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-8678412.html

Would those who deny it being a cultural/ethnic problem (f1 I'm looking at you) care to revise their statements?
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes that's why I pay them virtually no attention. Aside from the odd article in The Grauniad they have nothing they can tell me that I cannot glean for myself by looking at the facts surrounding any newsworthy issue!
Can you not at least try to be serious about this subject?


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