old scoobies v modern day cars
05 March 2013, 10:05 AM
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It's all horses for courses to be honest. I preferred all my Turbo 2000s to the STI 03 I made the mistake of buying in 2003... for day to day driving it was awful and hugely unreliable to boot. That said others may find completely the opposite. We just don;t all like the same thing.
I do think a lot of people make the mistake of correlating big power and on paper performance with being a better/more fun car. The most fun car I ever owned was an S1 Elise at that had a paltry 118bhp. Followed by a DC2 Integra Type R. Again not especially powerful.
I do think a lot of people make the mistake of correlating big power and on paper performance with being a better/more fun car. The most fun car I ever owned was an S1 Elise at that had a paltry 118bhp. Followed by a DC2 Integra Type R. Again not especially powerful.
05 March 2013, 10:35 AM
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Completely right f1_fan, my scoob isn't much fun. If anything its a pain in the *** and a ball ache most of the time. But when you stomp on the loud pedal it does make the hassle worth while.
The most fun I had was definitely in my rover 25gti, mainly due to the lack of hassle. It isn't a nightmare like the scoob,
Checking the meth, checking the levels etc, then the whole uncomfort with the cage and harness' etc. It is fun when your out in it. But its the stress of getting it out lol
The most fun I had was definitely in my rover 25gti, mainly due to the lack of hassle. It isn't a nightmare like the scoob,
Checking the meth, checking the levels etc, then the whole uncomfort with the cage and harness' etc. It is fun when your out in it. But its the stress of getting it out lol
05 March 2013, 11:51 AM
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I also have a 1.4 Rover 25 that is quite fun to drive, due to light weight, wide track and long gears, it's by no means rapid, but it has half decent handling and loves to rev, and is very chuckable, ok i know it's crap but i only paid £800 3yrs ago and it's not worth half that now, but it still manages to put a smile on my face and no matter how hard i try, i can't seem to break it.
05 March 2013, 02:44 PM
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Quote ditchmyster
"What about, engine oil cooler, gearbox oil cooler, quick rack, lightweight seats, 12L water bottle, front subframe delete, big port heads, seam welded"
Thats just off the top of my head, sorry mate but it's in a different league to uk cars."
I'm gonna get a spec c impreza cos it has a 12l water bottle. Always wanted one of those lol
"What about, engine oil cooler, gearbox oil cooler, quick rack, lightweight seats, 12L water bottle, front subframe delete, big port heads, seam welded"
Thats just off the top of my head, sorry mate but it's in a different league to uk cars."
I'm gonna get a spec c impreza cos it has a 12l water bottle. Always wanted one of those lol
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05 March 2013, 04:04 PM
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It's all horses for courses to be honest. I preferred all my Turbo 2000s to the STI 03 I made the mistake of buying in 2003... for day to day driving it was awful and hugely unreliable to boot. That said others may find completely the opposite. We just don;t all like the same thing.
I do think a lot of people make the mistake of correlating big power and on paper performance with being a better/more fun car. The most fun car I ever owned was an S1 Elise at that had a paltry 118bhp. Followed by a DC2 Integra Type R. Again not especially powerful.
I do think a lot of people make the mistake of correlating big power and on paper performance with being a better/more fun car. The most fun car I ever owned was an S1 Elise at that had a paltry 118bhp. Followed by a DC2 Integra Type R. Again not especially powerful.
Completely right f1_fan, my scoob isn't much fun. If anything its a pain in the *** and a ball ache most of the time. But when you stomp on the loud pedal it does make the hassle worth while.
The most fun I had was definitely in my rover 25gti, mainly due to the lack of hassle. It isn't a nightmare like the scoob,
Checking the meth, checking the levels etc, then the whole uncomfort with the cage and harness' etc. It is fun when your out in it. But its the stress of getting it out lol
The most fun I had was definitely in my rover 25gti, mainly due to the lack of hassle. It isn't a nightmare like the scoob,
Checking the meth, checking the levels etc, then the whole uncomfort with the cage and harness' etc. It is fun when your out in it. But its the stress of getting it out lol
+1 I agree also
My v4 impreza sti was a good car but reliability was not the best by a long shot in the end the head gasket blow and I just had enough at that point
then I went back to a civic type R and it is so reliable ever time I start it up I dont have a care in the world to it breaking down as it never skips a beat.
It is really good as when driving normaly it just potters away when driving around with my family in the car with a slight exhaust note and when I go out in it myself and floor the right pedal it comes alive with a massive exhaust note and really starts putting power down
when my mrs used to drive it she was under strict instructions not to take it to a garage if it broke,
just leave the keys in and get a taxi.
05 March 2013, 05:56 PM
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I'm finding it hard to believe that the quick rack and BB turbo can change the driving dynamics that much.
05 March 2013, 07:07 PM
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Yes, not sure how many kilos lighter.....even still, its mentioned that the spec c is a totally different drive to the equivalent model year JDM sti, surely there must be more in it than the two things I mentioned and some weight saving to make such a difference....
05 March 2013, 07:27 PM
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Welcome to Impreza Spec C .co.uk.
The Spec-C achieves the max torque of 39.2kg by improving the turbocharger and cylinder exhaust efficiency.
Compared to the Impreza WRX STi type RA, Impreza WRX STi spec C is about 90kg lighter through the adaptation of lighter glass, and thinner roof construction and a trunk lid.
A rear crossbar has been fitted to further improve body rigidity.
The turbocharger in the Impreza WRX STi spec C uses precise ball bearings in the shaft to reduce friction, thereby offering a smooth and speedy turbo boost and providing ideal engine response.
Large water reservoir for the intercooler water spray as well as an air-cooled engine oil cooler have been implemented to ensure stable engine performance.
05 March 2013, 07:35 PM
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IMPREZA SPEC C
Welcome to Impreza Spec C .co.uk.
The Spec-C achieves the max torque of 39.2kg by improving the turbocharger and cylinder exhaust efficiency.
Compared to the Impreza WRX STi type RA, Impreza WRX STi spec C is about 90kg lighter through the adaptation of lighter glass, and thinner roof construction and a trunk lid.
A rear crossbar has been fitted to further improve body rigidity.
The turbocharger in the Impreza WRX STi spec C uses precise ball bearings in the shaft to reduce friction, thereby offering a smooth and speedy turbo boost and providing ideal engine response.
Large water reservoir for the intercooler water spray as well as an air-cooled engine oil cooler have been implemented to ensure stable engine performance.
Welcome to Impreza Spec C .co.uk.
The Spec-C achieves the max torque of 39.2kg by improving the turbocharger and cylinder exhaust efficiency.
Compared to the Impreza WRX STi type RA, Impreza WRX STi spec C is about 90kg lighter through the adaptation of lighter glass, and thinner roof construction and a trunk lid.
A rear crossbar has been fitted to further improve body rigidity.
The turbocharger in the Impreza WRX STi spec C uses precise ball bearings in the shaft to reduce friction, thereby offering a smooth and speedy turbo boost and providing ideal engine response.
Large water reservoir for the intercooler water spray as well as an air-cooled engine oil cooler have been implemented to ensure stable engine performance.
05 March 2013, 07:39 PM
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http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...43148975,d.ZWU
Ok that's a rally prepared group N car but it gives you an idea.
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05 March 2013, 07:44 PM
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WRX-RA is the lightest one they did at 1130kg
Sti ra is a bit heavier but not sure how much
Bug Spec-C RA is the lightest Newage
My Spec-c Limited is booked at 1370kg, comes with aircon, elecy windows, central locking but had it on a weigh bridge with quarter of a tank of fuel and about 3lt in the water tank, No spare or tools and it came in at 1335kg and I have a 7" DVD and 5 gauges in the car too, Like I said jay it's all the small things, lightness, steering, different front arms, seam welded struts, different springs, better turbo, better cooling...
UK blob Sti is 1470kg
Gaz.
Sti ra is a bit heavier but not sure how much
Bug Spec-C RA is the lightest Newage
My Spec-c Limited is booked at 1370kg, comes with aircon, elecy windows, central locking but had it on a weigh bridge with quarter of a tank of fuel and about 3lt in the water tank, No spare or tools and it came in at 1335kg and I have a 7" DVD and 5 gauges in the car too, Like I said jay it's all the small things, lightness, steering, different front arms, seam welded struts, different springs, better turbo, better cooling...
UK blob Sti is 1470kg
Gaz.
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