markjmd

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So you'd be in favour of a ban on smoking in cars for everything except roll-ups, which of course would need to be pre-rolled before setting off on a journey?

Jazzy Jefferson

iTrader: (2)

Nope. I never said I was in favour of any ban. Think you're making it up....

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

But you've already conceded that dropping a factory-made cigarette in one's lap or elsewhere in the car is likely to cause the driver involved a potentially dangerous level of panic, which of course may ultimately result in an accident. Are you now saying then that you're in favour of such scandalously hazardous behaviour continuing completely unchecked?

Jazzy Jefferson

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Yes, that's exactly it. You've got it

Come on, give up. I didnt say that, you know it, and I know it. All I said was rollies go out due to not having added chemicals. That's it. Its written above if you want to double check....

Funkii Munkii

Aint that the truth, the first time I ever did that in Oz I pulled up outside the post office so my wife could post a letter, the punters sitting outside the adjacent coffee shop soon let me know, I couldn't understand it until I mentioned it to someone at work who then told me it was illegal to park on the opposite side of the road if you were facing the on coming cars.

I thought it ridiculous at first but after a while you realise it's actually a good idea and keep traffic moving, not that they have the traffic issues we do. I'd like to see it introduced over here.

Funkii Munkii

Thanks Markus , I do remember it starting but couldn't remember where I was living at the time, clearly it was Sydney

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

Right, so let's quietly forget the context of why you even mentioned rollies in the first place, which was in direct response to Gear Head's post on dropped cigarettes being a far bigger potential distraction than a dropped CD.

Typical smoker's logic, trying to rationalize the completely irrational. I don't know why I expected anything different.

RA Dunk

The same can be said about you, typical non smokers logic. just trying to **** with smokers because, they can...

Jazzy Jefferson

iTrader: (2)

Ok.
Bored of you now. Take up smoking....it'll give you something to do.

Jazzy Jefferson

iTrader: (2)

Easy to hold the moral high ground isn't it.

Leslie

If you are a non smoker in a car, you would realise how selfish it would be for someone to light up thus forcing you to put up with the fumes.

Les

Jazzy Jefferson

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If its my car, and Im giving you a lift, then deal with it. Hardly selfish If im giving you a lift...

If its your car and you are giving me a lift, then I shall hold off on the smokes, its not my car to smoke in.

So.... selfish? I think not.

I'd hate to meet a lot of you on here... you seem like stuck up people who have nothing better to do but complain about everything everyone else does. Take a look at your own lives before judging others.

RA Dunk

Unless it was the smokers car? If it's the smokers car then they are perfectly entitled to light up if they feel the need. If the non smoker/passenger had a problem with that they could always walk?

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

Toys, pram, thrown out of. 'Nuff said.

Jazzy Jefferson

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RA Dunk

Mark what business is it of yours if a smoker smokes in the privacy of his own car?

Leslie

Yes you are right of course. I should have made it clear that I was thinking about a passenger in my earlier post. Just the same as if you were a visitor in a smoker's house.

Les

Jazzy Jefferson

iTrader: (2)

I'd never smoke in your car. Or your house. Every smoker I have ever met or know will do this. Its called respect I thought.

Leslie

Your earlier point is valid of course.

If you think that we all complain too much for your liking, then you are of course perfectly free to find another place to make your unecessarily rude comments. I am sure that the rest of us will cope without you.

Les

Jazzy Jefferson

iTrader: (2)

Sorry Leslie, the comment you refer to wasnt aimed at you, I should have made it clearer. I stand by what I said though.

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

If it's safely parked-up on private property, I couldn't give a stuff. If on the other hand he or she is doing so while driving on a public road, I object to the distraction and fire hazard it poses. That said, I don't object to it any more or less than I do a driver trying to open a screw-top bottle of coke whilst driving for example (which I once saw someone do in the center lane of the M25 - and no, they didn't even have the sense to hold the screw-top with their teeth and the bottle with just one hand, this plonker was using both hands), or people leaving their engine running while queuing for a free pump at a petrol station.

No, so far as stupidity is concerned, I take a strictly equal-opportunities view of things

Jazzy Jefferson

iTrader: (2)

I've called the police... They want their 5 minutes back.

TelBoy

So 95%+ of people then, with zero instances (that i'm aware of) of petrol stations in the UK going up in flames due to this?

cster

I find a little bit of common sense goes a long way - except in Adelaide

Funkii Munkii

I have been a smoker on and off over the years,

I wouldn't smoke in the car just as I wouldn't smoke in my house, not being stuck up, have you ever smelt a smokers house or car

Even so I'd still be considerate enough not to smoke in a car with non smokers

Fat Boy

You effectively claimed to be able to maintain control ; I was just pointing out the irony involved in your stance...

I don't really care about this point to be honest - if you want to remove yourself from the gene pool earlier then knock yourself out - it was a mild bit of banter as far as I was concerned, but you clearly have a few issues here judging by your dog with a bone manner. Perhaps a nice deep drag might bring you back to equilibrium?

TTFN

RA Dunk

Distraction? Fire hazzard?

Never mind, the lighter nights are starting to creep back in again. You might get out and about a bit more too.

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Exactly.

If this was a major issue, I'm pretty sure smoking in vehicles would already be banned.

dpb

That would make sense, if the car had an auto box perhaps

Can't really see how a cigarette can be classed in the same league as other distractions

It doesn't usually take you two minutes to unwrap a sandwich etc, and the bloody thing isn't going to burn hole in your trousers if you let it go


Do they still fit ash trays to cars?

Leslie

Ok fair enough, and I feel the same way about smoking in someone else's car or house.

Les