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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Well, unless they are all on permanent nights, a heck of a lot of them in THIS town don't work........
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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the great british gov have a master plan for us dont worry it will all be fine! the country wont decline in anyway, have faith in what were told and everything will turn out just fine for our kids and there kids and theres. of course all the above is complete and utter bull shi££ unfortunately, oxford uni and the like are training our boys how not to have general common sense or simple direction on rite and wrong. there is indeed much! corruption in our leaders, where theres money u will find this. also the v power they use is prob the real deal, unlike us mortals who put the stuff in thinking its good, my alcatek says different. the state of our future is of great concearn, and i feel angry and sad when i see what the government is doing to us u me them. B E N T
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sssssteeeee
the great british gov have a master plan for us dont worry it will all be fine! the country wont decline in anyway, have faith in what were told and everything will turn out just fine for our kids and there kids and theres. of course all the above is complete and utter bull shi££ unfortunately, oxford uni and the like are training our boys how not to have general common sense or simple direction on rite and wrong. there is indeed much! corruption in our leaders, where theres money u will find this. also the v power they use is prob the real deal, unlike us mortals who put the stuff in thinking its good, my alcatek says different. the state of our future is of great concearn, and i feel angry and sad when i see what the government is doing to us u me them. B E N T
Not the best English I've ever read, (are you Bulgarian?), but I agree with what you seem to be saying.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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blame your goverment there BENT and the people that come to this country freely admit that. easy pickings a walk in the park at british expence-tax payer.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sssssteeeee
blame your goverment there BENT and the people that come to this country freely admit that. easy pickings a walk in the park at british expence-tax payer.
Preaching to those already converted here dude.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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The government should be ashamed of themselves selling the uk down the river just to please the ****ing European union ...
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
I wondered how long it would be before the handwringing liberal made an appearance asking for his 'stats', change the script for ***** sake.

What are you going to do with these 'stats', wallpaper the bathroom perhaps?
So you don't actually know then
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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all these stats should be printed and used as wallpaper for public toilets, they will be safe there thats for sure
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

I have no idea whether there will be a huge influx of Romanians and Bulgarians and I have no idea what they are coming here for as to say they are soley coming for benefits or the NHS is stupid - we don't know that,
F1 can you give me any other reason they might want to come here other than benefits and NHS.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
all these stats should be printed and used as wallpaper for public toilets, they will be safe there thats for sure
Problem is we don't actually have any stats yet....still waiting
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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exactly and as there are hardly any public crappers left it won't take many
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
The government should be ashamed of themselves selling the uk down the river just to please the ****ing European union ...
now we all know how nemo felt being flushed down the crapper
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
all these stats should be printed and used as wallpaper for public toilets, they will be safe there thats for sure
And give the poofs something to read while they're cottaging.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Not the best English I've ever read, (are you Bulgarian?), but I agree with what you seem to be saying.
Sorry but I can't be fagged deciphering it... what did it say?
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
F1 can you give me any other reason they might want to come here other than benefits and NHS.
Well the usual complaint is our jobs and our women, but to be honest unless Bulgaria and Romania are complete sh1tholes I don't see why they're bothering as the UK is pretty much f**ked and not just by the immigrants.... homegrown lazy scum. corrupt ineffectual governments, corrupt press, partially corrupt police force, over taxation etc. etc.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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Just how many hand car washes does any town really need .........
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Which paper Les and what's the source please?
I think it was the Mail but not sure-saw it in the newsagents! I believe it was information from their government.

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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Our worthy PM will continue to attempt to ingratiate himself among the other world leaders as ever!

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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I think it was the Mail but not sure-saw it in the newsagents! I believe it was information from their government.

Les
Thing is even allowing for exaggeration we can't cope with a million more people.... why can our governments not see this?
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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What if it's in fact total bull****e made up for the chattering classes
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
What if it's in fact total bull****e made up for the chattering classes
Well yes I do wonder that too. Hard to know really. Not sure I want to find out the hard way that the DM was right though!

Someone needs to look at this properly.

To be frank I am all for some immigration and proper multiculturism but when we are so in debt and have 2.5 million unemployed already as a country it becomes unacceptable to open the doors to hundreds of thousands more!
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Well yes I do wonder that too. Hard to know really. Not sure I want to find out the hard way that the DM was right though!

Someone needs to look at this properly.

To be frank I am all for some immigration and proper multiculturism but when we are so in debt and have 2.5 million unemployed already as a country it becomes unacceptable to open the doors to hundreds of thousands more!
**** me, on this we agree!
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Problem is we don't actually have any stats yet....still waiting

The problem is the government couldn't publish accurate stats because they don't know the current figures for immigration never mind the probable influx from Romania and Bulgaria
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
The problem is the government couldn't publish accurate stats because they don't know the current figures for immigration never mind the probable influx from Romania and Bulgaria
Well you were pretty sure of yourself earlier - how comes?
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Well you were pretty sure of yourself earlier - how comes?
Most think estimated figures are quite conservative even from the likes of migration watch.

Most if not all are uneducated and unskilled from some of the poorest and deprived areas of Eastern Europe and will target the UK benefit system.

http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/brie...r/document/287
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Well you were pretty sure of yourself earlier - how comes?
Martin I'm about as liberal as they come as regards immigrants etc. but even I can see this has the potential to not end well!

It's nothing to do with their race, country of origin or anything like that... it's just economics. We cannot afford it!
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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When we get some facts? Has anything changed?
Will we have solid numbers on:

How many come.

What jobs they have.

What dependents they have.

Where they plan to live.

What benefits they claim.

or will it just be an unmanaged free for all like it always has been?
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

It's nothing to do with their race, country of origin or anything like that... it's just economics. We cannot afford it!
True, Our little island (the EU seem to think is the size of Australia) dosen't have the natural resources like water to support this amount of people.
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
True, Our little island (the EU seem to think is the size of Australia) dosen't have the natural resources like water to support this amount of people.
We have reached common ground
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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Its comical that people say not many will come. Exact same story as years ago when "official" predictions were a few tens of thousands.

no one knows for sure (and how can they?) but if you had to put money on it what would your guess be? Mine is at least 1 million, granted it will probably be over a several years.

All other issues aside, one of the things that I don't understand (maybe I am missing something) is that to me it would seem that the majority of eastern Europeans come here and take the low paid jobs that hardly pay any TAX, far less than they cost the government to supply them with healthcare/benefits etc (more so if they have family). If I am correct then surely it would be plain to see that each person that comes increases our country's debt even if they do benefit some businesses with "cheap" (to the business) labour. Is my logic here wrong?
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