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Old 06 February 2013, 12:09 PM
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Where do we stand on this, I realise the middle England DM reading majority are ****ting themselves and frankly I cant see this being a good thing either, what will happen if the projected influx happens, nothing against these people as individuals and I can totally identify as to why they would come here but what the hell will we do with them when they arrive and need feeding, housing and employing, I dont think they are as nations are as industrious or skilled as the Polish, these are basically third world countries.
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We spoke to a British Transport Policeman recently and he said most of his days are spent chasing Romanian gangs who are targeting the pockets of travellers on the underground. I suppose we can expect more of the same?

I agree, they are not as educated or industrious as the Polish, well, not in a legal sense anyway!
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Went to Rusholme, the curry mile in Manchester and there were quite a few, what I think were Romanian women begging with babies under their arms, it is funny listening to the Asians moaning about the immigrants and I can see their point, these scruffy creatures with their baboshkas at the front and loads of feral looking dudes in 1980s leather jackets lurking in the background, looking for all the world like Nikko bellic from Grand Theft Auto.

I think the problem is really more for people living in town centres and cheaper areas as they will be inundated with them, it may in a strange way unite white British, Blacks, poles and Asians a bit more if they have a common problem, those that are already more integrated into British life.

I have no problem with anyone coming here if they are ready to work, pay taxes, abide by the law and can pay their own way, I think these will be winging it and will ineviatably fall into crime, if that isnt their main reason for coming here, I suspect soem will be really ruthless, evil *******s, life is a bit cheaper in those countries and we are pretty soft targets.
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Well Northampton town centre is already a smorgasbord of languages and nationalities, so why not throw another couple into the mix. It is becoming a no go area for the indigenous population.

Thing that annoyed me is that I was in the Job Centre last year and I overheard a conversation between an Adviser and an obviously foreign, non-English speaking man who was signing on. She asked him if he'd been looking for a job in the agreed places, i.e. agencies, newspapers etc. and he just stared blankly at her. He hadn't done any job seeking in the last 2 weeks, BUT SHE STILL SIGNED HIM. This is where we are getting it wrong. She should not have signed him. So, no wonder we are taken advantage of our generosity in this country.
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Maybe they'll give the lie to our indigenous iorish pikey scum.

So their image hasn't been even slightly tarnished on film ( with nearly every serious villain portrayed as an eastern European -usually romanian )
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Does art imitate life or does life imitate art ?

regardless of TV and film, you put a load of people into a society they arent used to there will be problems, especially if that society is already full to bursting, I dotn want to see more people getting benefits, I dont want to have to queue to see a doctor behind them, they rock up and get looked after better than those who have paid into the system all their lives, then the government need to pay for the extra benefits and medical care so they put our taxes up, we dont get an option and if we say anything we get told we are "racist", sure the majority are decent people but lets check first shall we.
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Well, I predict that within 20 years they'll be a British civil war.

The minority (Immigrants) will soon become the majority. They'll want there own law's or our's changed to suit them. They don't contribute to the economy, yet take more out than most British people. The country will go bankrupt unless something is done very very soon.
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Originally Posted by stilover
Well, I predict that within 20 years they'll be a British civil war.

The minority (Immigrants) will soon become the majority. They'll want there own law's or our's changed to suit them. They don't contribute to the economy, yet take more out than most British people. The country will go bankrupt unless something is done very very soon.
Whilst this appears a sensationalist view - I really do think that the average white UK person is slowly being pushed to breaking point!

Mohammed is now the most popular boys name in the UK:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...sh-baby-names/

We are being 'bred' out of existence - it may take a 100 years, but it will happen, and islam or whatever will have 'won' their war.

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A lot of immigrants do contribute, there are many Doctors who werent born here, every Taxi I go in seems to be driven by an Asian guy, all those eating places etc etc, conversley a lot of white British people contribute not one iota and just take, I do take issue with the fact that tax evasion is rife in someof these communities and businesses but not contributing doesnt come into it, the Asian community, as a sweeping generalisation are very shrewd businesspeople, well the educated ones tend to be, if not the ones who cant speak English that confine themselves to specific areas.

My issue is with thousands upon thousands arriving here in one go as soon as the legal situation allows them, I dont think we can afford it financially or socially, these are people used to hardship and will do what they can to survive and prosper.

it will never be Brits vs immigrants, too diverse and too many opinions, not everyone in every group has the same views, and as an exmaple the Indian bloke who lives next door to my dad is very racist abotu Pakistanis, he sees himself as a cut above, a proud British Indian, albeit a racist berk.
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Totally agree with posts 7& 8. Its too late to stop it
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I think this might just be the straw (rather a big straw) that breaks the multi-culturalist camel's back and a backalsh to start, so in a way I think it's a good thing - anything to change the status quo.
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We used to employ a lovely Romanian couple who were under the impression that we have no idea what we are letting ourselves in for when the rest of Romania show up.
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these people will contribute nothing to the country, they will however line the pockets of politicians big buisness and shareholders, if they do work they will be a cheep workforce, if the don't then they will just further the goverments mission to have us under contol of the state be it financially or mentally through being scared of crime and terrorism, its the new big money spinner, alarms, personal protection, all it will do is allow the goverment to have even more anti privacy laws
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its just another load of foreign scum coming to claim benefits.

how eill we know the difference from now??
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The criminals from Romania are already here, it's just that they are unable to work without a permit. Not that is of any concern to them.
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Originally Posted by madscoob
these people will contribute nothing to the country, they will however line the pockets of politicians big buisness and shareholders, if they do work they will be a cheep workforce, if the don't then they will just further the goverments mission to have us under contol of the state be it financially or mentally through being scared of crime and terrorism, its the new big money spinner, alarms, personal protection, all it will do is allow the goverment to have even more anti privacy laws
With a private police force to milk some more monies into their pockets.
Because this Gov are in the eraly stages of privatising great bits of UK policing

As a response cop in a rural town I spend a significant amount of time these days dealing with some pretty nasty stuff going on between various elements of the local differing 'communities'
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It will be as last time: the majority of EC states will tell them not to come unless they can prove there is a job THEY CAN DO and that no-one already there wants that job. If they the go to THOSE countries, no benefits, no health care etc etc.
So they won't go there.

The UK, however, like idiots, let the last lot in with NO restrictions.
If we now try to restrict these new ones, they only need to apply to the ECHR and state that they are being discriminated against, and we will have to have them.
Our government KNOW this, so are doing nothing to stop them coming....

And so this next lot are down to Lying Labour's little ethnic experiment too. How could they have been SO stupid?
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As stated, most Romanians already here are involved in organised crime. I know, i was caught out by the ba$tards. I will avoid any contact at all costs with them. Bulgarians i know nothing about...yet.
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Whether you think immigration is good or bad,the country is full and you can see it almost everywhere you go.Queues and overcrowding,packed liked sardines in a tin, or as the saying goes.....
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Wait, what? Granted I am lax keeping up with current affairs, but are Romania and Bulgaria being let into the EU?
How the actual fck does that work? I thought the point of the Eu was that the member states were comparatively equal financially and that new members would have to meet minimum requirements?
I have been to Romania and it was borderline medieval....peasants weeding fields by hand and dragging a single blade plough behind a scrawy old cow was not an unusual sight.
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There's nothing equal about the EU
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Everyone will be as equally poor sooner or later except the Germans will be richer and we'll be poorer lol
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One journalist went to speak to the Polish ambassador in London, to ask him his view on how child benefits are being paid to children in Poland by the UK, and how he thought it would be affected once Bulgarians and Romanians gain access to this easy money.

The ambassador said words to the effect of "It's British law, not EU law that chose to make it possible. If you don't like it, change it".

What was most intriguing about the ambassador’s letter is that he cited UK law rather than EU regulations to justify this ludicrous state of affairs. I had always assumed that the reason we paid benefits to non-resident children was because we were obliged to under a Brussels directive and had no choice in the matter. Yet a study published yesterday by the campaign organisation Migration Watch says the vast majority of EU countries do not pay child benefit for offspring living outside their territory. The only ones that do, according to the study, are the Czech Republic, Germany, Ireland, Latvia, the Netherlands and, of course, us.
How can this be so? Surely if the EU’s social security rules are supposed to be harmonised they must apply equally in every country. The regulations (EC 883/2004, if you want to look them up) are extremely complex, but the reason that benefits are paid on a different basis across the EU appears to depend on whether entitlement is based on residency or employment. If the former, then payments are made only to families actually living in the country; if the latter, then they can be made overseas.
They went on to say that they thought it was unfair that two children living in Poland on the same street, could receive a vast difference in benefit. If Child A's parents get benefit in Poland, Child A's benefit would be £20. If Child B's parents can claim in the UK, child B would get £80. If Child B has a younger brother/sister, that child would also get £53.60.

So far 50000 children outside the UK receive payments from the UK, which is £50m.

While the primary reason for moving around the EU may well be to find a job, the prospect of receiving generous benefits that can be sent home must act as an incentive, especially for workers from Europe’s poorer nations. The EU rules stipulate that “in cases where family benefits are based on employment or self-employment in both states, the state where the children reside takes precedence provided that a parent works there, otherwise the state where the highest amount is paid is responsible”. Those who say that benefits do not act as a pull factor for immigration within the EU need look no further than that.
If we are not able to stop them coming, maybe we should change the laws to mean they cannot claim these benefits. That may put some of them off.
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Uneducated, poor English, awful food, overweight women...........thats the English. No wonder my Polish friends don't associate with us. I expect the Romanians to be the same.
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Originally Posted by paulr
Uneducated, poor English, awful food, overweight women...........thats the English.
That's exactly how my Dutch mate has described English/Welsh/Scottish women for the last 15 years.

We'd sit outside the bars in Tenerife and we could tell people's nationalities, before we heard them speak, by the size of the women.
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
One journalist went to speak to the Polish ambassador in London, to ask him his view on how child benefits are being paid to children in Poland by the UK, and how he thought it would be affected once Bulgarians and Romanians gain access to this easy money.

The ambassador said words to the effect of "It's British law, not EU law that chose to make it possible. If you don't like it, change it".



They went on to say that they thought it was unfair that two children living in Poland on the same street, could receive a vast difference in benefit. If Child A's parents get benefit in Poland, Child A's benefit would be £20. If Child B's parents can claim in the UK, child B would get £80. If Child B has a younger brother/sister, that child would also get £53.60.

So far 50000 children outside the UK receive payments from the UK, which is £50m.





If we are not able to stop them coming, maybe we should change the laws to mean they cannot claim these benefits. That may put some of them off.

I hope all the third world/immigrant/assylum claimer bashers are reading this
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Originally Posted by paulr
Uneducated, poor English, awful food, overweight women...........thats the English. No wonder my Polish friends don't associate with us. I expect the Romanians to be the same.
They are not here to socialise you idiot, they are here for the money, and will take some brass neck to associate with us when they are raping us and bleeding us dry.
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
That's exactly how my Dutch mate has described English/Welsh/Scottish women for the last 15 years.

We'd sit outside the bars in Tenerife and we could tell people's nationalities, before we heard them speak, by the size of the women.
Well if you want to stereotype the Dutch are all cycle riding drug addicts.
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
That's exactly how my Dutch mate has described English/Welsh/Scottish women for the last 15 years.

We'd sit outside the bars in Tenerife and we could tell people's nationalities, before we heard them speak, by the size of the women.

Was it not a Bulgarian that recently beheaded a uk citizen in Tenerife? God help us when those Bulgarians get here.
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Was it not a Bulgarian that recently beheaded a uk citizen in Tenerife? God help us when those Bulgarians get here.
To be fair, I dont think they are all psychopaths but folk from that part of the world arent perhaps as advanced as polite British society but our provincial towns will probably make them a bit taken aback, especially on a Friday night, not sure I want donkeys pulling carts either.

I know a lot of English lads have pulled nice Polish ladies, punching well above their weight, so, if they just send us the fitties and leave the shot putter type women and all the men at home that would be fine.


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