Yes we know the stats, by WHY is the case. Do you understand?

 

Ah right, left wing comic, I used to get that paper - more salacious nonsense on page 3 than all the red tops lumped together

 

To answer the original question, the world is changing, and rapidly. There is no going back, so we need to get used to it. There's lots we can learn from immigrants.

On the question of benefits, thats the UK governments fault. In Germany, you have to have done 12 months employment before you get any benefits. No reason we can't have that here.

 

Agreed doc, but look at this:

Let's suppose that 1 million Asian boys are born and HALF of them are named Mohammed.
Now let's suppose that FIVE million white British boys are born, the most popular name being Jack, given to 450,000 of them.

So the name Mohammed is more popular than Jack, but it DOESN'T mean that Asian births are more than White British births.

probably MORE scary is that Leicester is already the first UK city to have a majority of Asian people, and several more are expected to follow within the next five years.

Of local families I know, the white British birthrate is under two children, the Asian birthrate is closer to four.

 

whats the most common surname in the uk phonebook now then is it patel or something else bet it isn't smith

 

One of the most depressing things I have read in a long time

 

Yes these sort of threads can leave you feeling somewhat empty. Too many wannbee alpha-males with too few facts, and far too many opinions

 

well it kind of proves a point when no one bothers to look it up because they are scared of the answer, there is a wonderfull picture of a bloke bent over backwards circulating on facebook with his head up his own ****, titled cameron when questioned on immigration, very fitting for most mp's and a few members of this place as well. come back and tell us all how wonderfull they are in a few years time when you have been robbed or your daughter has been attacked on the way home from a night out, the top 50 most wanted criminals in the uk is available to look at on the net, have a browse through and look how many of them are illegal immigrantsps sorry in advance for any spelling mistakes i couldn't be arsed

 

I did hear that most Muslim boys get Mohammed as a forename, it is traditional, as a tribute to the Prophet, they also get a middle name which they then end up using in a lot of cases, eiteh that or a massive lack of imagination.

 

Says in the paper that 4 Million Bulgarians have expressed the wish to emigrate to the UK.

Les

 

Which paper Les and what's the source please?

 

It's started already. Some Romanians work for a company that was sub-contracting to the one I work for. They keep feeling the need to sh*te on site, despite there being clean, warm toilet facilities provided. One of them took a dump right next to the materials I had to use the next day. I arrived to find a turd squashed under a brick complete with toilet paper and everything! But at least that one had the decency to do it outside, even if it did inconvenience me greatly. A week later, another one of them did one inside one of the shiny new finished buildings!

Avoiding the canteen whenever they're in is also a must, as they all stink. I'm sure they're not representative of all Romanians though. Just the ones that are coming over here...

 

The Telegraph left wing? Are you on crack?

 

I shouldn't encourage you, but

 

Were Full, FFS!

At least try and limit them to the ones with trades or something.

 

So the solution is:

1: Remove benefits from those not "wanting" to work (hard to prove but not impossible)
2: Install an Australian style "entry point system" for those wanting to come and live in the UK.
3: Stop giving/lending millions to 3rd World countries and start fixing UK problems 1st.

Then we could go Chinese and heavily tax anyone having more than 1 child thus reducing the overcrowded existing population to more "manageable" numbers. Those that can "afford" to have more than 1 child will and those that can't won't - therefore those that want more than one will work hard to afford them rather than the current system where you get more "benefit" from having multiple children which ultimately does not help the situation.

None of these are "extreme solutions" but will inevitably end up being seen as unfair - probably only by those that "benefit" from the existing system though.

Food for thought perhaps.....but I know it won't happen....knew this 12 years ago when I got out and moved to France, just sad to be sitting here watching HMS UK sink

 

Point system for our fellow Europeans?

It's a nice idea, but you can see the immediate problem

The sending family benefits abroad and endless support for larger useless families here is a big problem,solvable imo

I'm damn sure it's not rosy across the channel either.A customer mines son is a forester there,hasnt been paid for months boss doesn't have it......cap cuts I wonder

 

I didn't move to France to earn lots of money (would've stayed working in KSA for that) but what France has got (at least the part where I live) and the UK seems to have lost are the "old school values" - no way was I going to bring up any of my children in the UK, having to pick them up from school in order to avoid the drug dealers, child abusers, etc. etc. etc. or have to pay a fortune to send them to a private school in order to avoid mixing with the "wrong crowd". Life here is how it was when I was growing up in Wembley nearly 40 years ago and that's what I wanted for my kids.

Why do all the "immigrants" pass through France whilst heading for the UK? ....because France doesn't offer them the "free benefits" that the UK does.

I've been an estate agent here for 12 years and the majority of the Brits who buy are all getting out of the UK for the same reasons - strangely I've never sold to a Polish client who lives in the UK.

Blighty is only going to get worse I'm afraid and I don't envy the UK that your kids will inherit.

 

Looks like the government is already on top of this issue as they have already devised a strategy to keep the imigration down

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21263572

 

Couldn't of put it better,had a couple mates who have left the UK and some family, New Zealand,Canada and the USA,3/4 years on the one mate in Canada who i talk too more often,said he has no intention of coming back to the UK,he is settled in a job and a house,his three kids are all doing well,all driving and can afford vehicles while at college etc.
He said to me why don't i think about it,and its been on and off my mind for a while now.
UK has become a dumping ground for all the ****.

 

Sorry, but NEITHER of the above can now be done, unless our government suddenly grows enough cojones to tell the ECHR to fek off.

The plain fact is that, because we put NO restrictions in the way of those who came first, we CANNOT legally put any in the way of the next wave, and the one after that, etc etc, because it would be discrimination.

Lying Labour to blame. No-one else. Sorry.

 

A lot of people on NSR are deluded, they think that immigrants are coming to the UK to work and do all the menial jobs the white workshy will not do.

In reality most are here to rape the benefit system in the UK, particularly this next Bulgarian and Romanian influx.

And to take maximum advantage, most will have kids here and rape the NHS, a system that they have not contributed to via National Insurance and tax.

Also those that do work will return to their own countries around or before April for two or three months and any tax they have paid in the UK will be refunded. They will then return to the UK and the cycle starts again.

And then there's the benefit that is paid to any children not living in the UK.

This is simply unsustainable; no other country has such an inept system and will result in the end of everything we take for granted in the UK, the welfare system, the NHS etc., etc.

This isn't a racist or bigoted attitude, just common sense.

 

Confusing migrants with immigrants imo

 

Do you think it's acceptable for migrants/immigrants to arrive in the UK and go straight to benefit?

 

Sorry, that's a cop out. If it needs doing then the government should do it and f**k the consequences. One government cannot conveniently keep blaming the other and having no spine themselves. They are supposed to be running the country so they need to get on with it.

I have no idea whether there will be a huge influx of Romanians and Bulgarians and I have no idea what they are coming here for as to say they are soley coming for benefits or the NHS is stupid - we don't know that, but if there is an influx and the country cannot accomodate them then Cameron needs to grow a set and say No! The rest of Europe isn't worried I see so why are we such a soft touch? What are they doing that we are not? Ah yes... they grew a spine a while back and told the EU and ECHR do do one on certain issues!

 

Not at all, neither is it okay for indigenous to never work

 

Yes I know which is why, in my humble opinion, the UK is a lost cause, a sinking ship with naff all chance of plugging the hole. GREAT Britain has become nothing but "Give-away Britain": heritage, values, funds, respect, etc. etc.

Revolution, Civil War ..... doubt it no-one's got the ***** for any of that, just bend over and pass the KY and those that can are already thinking about getting out

 

But if you have indigenous populous that never work, the priority for any government is to make amendments to the system and make it worthwhile for these people to seek gainful employment rather than sponge off the state.

It is not the priority of any government to open the benefit system to migrants or immigrants.

 

You appear to be in possession of some facts, namely the % of EU immigrants here claiming benefits...any chance you could share the stats?

 

I wondered how long it would be before the handwringing liberal made an appearance asking for his 'stats', change the script for ***** sake.

What are you going to do with these 'stats', wallpaper the bathroom perhaps?