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Old 06 February 2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sambob
Please don't get me started on the influx of Islam in our country! I have burned out 1 keyboard already on the issue at hand!
Funny that, given your views on marriage and homosexuality I would have thought Islam would have been right up your street
Old 06 February 2013, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
Homosexuality is not something your average Pakistani or African would be making public in a hurry.
Maybe this is the way the UK government is going to control immigration

The 'They eat da poo-poo' nations wouldn't been seen dead here in gayville UK
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
And how predictable is it that one of the 'Dads' in 'Dad David, Baba Chris and Me' just had to be coloured? Yet another example of the naive interpretation of society expressed by well-meaning liberals desperate to allow all others to achieve their level of heightened enlightenment.
Homosexuality is not something your average Pakistani or African would be making public in a hurry. No need to let that get in the way of a good story though.
well meaning liberals???? LOL it's like a trip back to the 70s.... you'll be mentioning reds under the bed next

Homosexuality exists, is quite normal and isn't going anywhere any time soon. About time certain people started dealing with it! A few kids books out of thousands allude to it.... a good thing in my opinion, why hide them from it?
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Funny that, given your views on marriage and homosexuality I would have thought Islam would have been right up your street
I see. Well, I would advise that you need to take a serious look at your thought patterns, as it would seem that you are consistently drawing the wrong conclusions.

From your opposition of mine and other comments who back the current definition of marriage, should I assume that homosexuality is right up your street, and perhaps even up to your own back door?
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
well meaning liberals???? LOL it's like a trip back to the 70s.... you'll be mentioning reds under the bed next

Homosexuality exists, is quite normal and isn't going anywhere any time soon. About time certain people started dealing with it! A few kids books out of thousands allude to it.... a good thing in my opinion, why hide them from it?
And conversely, why promote it?

In addition, homosexuality is currently abnormal rather than normal.
You appear to take some pleasure from directing others towards a dictionary, so go read one yourself.
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Originally Posted by Sambob
You think wrong. This is not a personal issue, at least not on my part. This is a much greater issue. Homosexuals are trying to redefine our current definition of marriage which has been around for thousands of years. The current definition is "the voluntary union for life, of one man and one woman, to the exclusion of all other"

If this is re-defind it opens the door for polygamy and much more.

If you really want to know, watch these minute long video clips, which explain it very well. That is to say if you are actually interested in the topic and are not just trolling.

http://c4m.org.uk/marriage-minutes/
This is the nub of the argument: the definition of marriage and the authority of the source of that definition.

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Old 06 February 2013, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
And conversely, why promote it?
Why not? Only an issue if you feel there is something wrong with it - do you?

Originally Posted by c_maguire
In addition, homosexuality is currently abnormal rather than normal.
You appear to take some pleasure from directing others towards a dictionary, so go read one yourself.
homosexuality - noun - sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex.

I can't see the word abnormal in there, can you? Or is this some dictionary you have written?
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Originally Posted by Sambob
I see. Well, I would advise that you need to take a serious look at your thought patterns, as it would seem that you are consistently drawing the wrong conclusions.

From your opposition of mine and other comments who back the current definition of marriage, should I assume that homosexuality is right up your street, and perhaps even up to your own back door?
Ah, you reveal your true colours. Didn't take long.

Think what you like mate, I truly couldn't care less.
Old 06 February 2013, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
well meaning liberals???? LOL it's like a trip back to the 70s.... you'll be mentioning reds under the bed next

Homosexuality exists, is quite normal and isn't going anywhere any time soon. About time certain people started dealing with it! A few kids books out of thousands allude to it.... a good thing in my opinion, why hide them from it?
Please, oh please, can you explain to me how a man sticking his ***** into another mans rectum is normal? And that is just one graphic example of it, without even touching on the many other issues. Men and men cannot reproduce, neither can women & women, does that give you a bit of a clue?

I simply cannot, for the life of me, comprehend homosexuality as normal. If it was normal then it would have always been mainstream and accepted, but this is not what has happened. It has been forced upon society by those who are homosexual, and now it is being forced into our definition of marriage by those who are homosexual, and if you oppose you must be a bible basher, a bigot or an idiot.....
Old 06 February 2013, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Ah, you reveal your true colours. Didn't take long.

Think what you like mate, I truly couldn't care less.
My true "colours" have been on display since I joined this debate, what "colours" were you seeing?

By the way, you didn't answer my question.

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Old 06 February 2013, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Why not? Only an issue if you feel there is something wrong with it - do you?



homosexuality - noun - sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex.

I can't see the word abnormal in there, can you? Or is this some dictionary you have written?
You really think the dictionary you are looking at has had the same definitions of its words throughout time or that they will not change in the future?

You sir are fighting a losing argument as your assumptions and conclusion stem from your own vain imaginations.
Old 06 February 2013, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sambob
By the way, you didn't answer my question.
Do you mean this?

Originally Posted by Sambob
From your opposition of mine and other comments who back the current definition of marriage, should I assume that homosexuality is right up your street, and perhaps even up to your own back door?
If so why should I answer it? What business is it of yours?

Originally Posted by Sambob
I simply cannot, for the life of me, comprehend homosexuality as normal.
And I can so we will just have to agree to differ

Originally Posted by Sambob
and if you oppose you must be a bible basher, a bigot or an idiot.....
And if you don't then homosexuality must be right up to your own back door, your words not mine
Old 06 February 2013, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sambob
You really think the dictionary you are looking at has had the same definitions of its words throughout time or that they will not change in the future?
Yes and we used to burn witches and think the world was flat!

Originally Posted by Sambob
You sir are fighting a losing argument as your assumptions and conclusion stem from your own vain imaginations.
LOL. well as gay marriage has just taken a big step towards becoming law I'd say my argument is winning by a fair margin right now
Old 06 February 2013, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sambob
Please, oh please, can you explain to me how a man sticking his ***** into another mans rectum is normal? And that is just one graphic example of it, without even touching on the many other issues. Men and men cannot reproduce, neither can women & women, does that give you a bit of a clue?

You will shortly be told that homosexual behaviour is also present between animals and the like and therefore this demonstrates that it is 'normal' behaviour. I would counter this with the argument that Humans are one of few species that 'enjoy' sex and so engage in it for purposes other than reproduction. The motivation for the act is therefore different. Do the male dogs exhibiting homosexual behaviour actually 'dip the wick'? And are they also interested in female dogs?

I simply cannot, for the life of me, comprehend homosexuality as normal. If it was normal then it would have always been mainstream and accepted, but this is not what has happened. It has been forced upon society by those who are homosexual, and now it is being forced into our definition of marriage by those who are homosexual, and if you oppose you must be a bible basher, a bigot or an idiot.....

It seems to me that it is being forced into our definition of marriage by those who are not homosexual. The motivation behind this is what I struggle with.

...
Old 06 February 2013, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Do you mean this?



If so why should I answer it? What business is it of yours?



And I can so we will just have to agree to differ



And if you don't then homosexuality must be right up to your own back door, your words not mine
actually, I didn't say that, you mis-quote me.

I actually asked....

From your opposition of mine and other comments who back the current definition of marriage, should I assume that homosexuality is right up your street, and perhaps even up to your own back door?

If you do not wish to answer thats fine, but please don't try to insinuate that I am of the opinion that all who are for the re-definition of marriage to encompass homosexuals are homosexuals themselves....

No, I don't believe that. This stance I speak of is also held by people with no backbone, no true morals and values, the ignorant sheeple who say yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir, those who do not care about society or tomorrow, the vain, the egotistical, those who shirk away from natural affection and the natural laws of the universe. I could go on but I believe I may offend so I will stop there.

Please note that the views that I hold are those of my own and are not intended to cause insult or offense to anyone. You are at liberty to disagree, ignore & or discard what I have written. Thank God for free speech! (Well, almost free speech, as God forbid someone stand out against homosexuality!")
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Sambob, if i could have one wish per day, today's wish would be that your oldest friend would admit to you that they had been living a lie all their lives, they had known from an early age that they had sexual feelings for people their own sex, and it was time for them to be true to themselves. How utterly betrayed they'd feel if they realised your closed-minded views on the subject. I really really wish that people like you knew just one gay person properly, so they could have a proper conversation about it rather than bash out inane objections on a chat forum. You have zero idea about what being gay means. Zero. And you know it.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes and we used to burn witches and think the world was flat!
Yes, there have been many ignorant, mis-informed, uneducated people in times gone by, what is so different from today?
Old 06 February 2013, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Sambob, if i could have one wish per day, today's wish would be that your oldest friend would admit to you that they had been living a lie all their lives, they had known from an early age that they had sexual feelings for people their own sex, and it was time for them to be true to themselves. How utterly betrayed they'd feel if they realised your closed-minded views on the subject. I really really wish that people like you knew just one gay person properly, so they could have a proper conversation about it rather than bash out inane objections on a chat forum. You have zero idea about what being gay means. Zero. And you know it.
TelBoy. I do not hate homosexuals, I simply do not agree with homosexuality, there is a difference. You seem to know me very well for someone who has read a few of my posts of a forum....
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
LOL. well as gay marriage has just taken a big step towards becoming law I'd say my argument is winning by a fair margin right now
I was talking about the argument on this forum and you know it. Not a vote in the house of commons which we have no say over. We'll see how far this bill gets when it hits the Lords.
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Yep i have your number already. You cannot "disagree" with homosexuality. You, like most gay-bashers fundamentally fail to grasp that homosexuality is a combination of nature and nurture, not a lifestyle choice. Until you comprehend that basic fact of sexuality in humans (and not just humans), any further debate is futile. I'll leave it with you.
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Originally Posted by Sambob
actually, I didn't say that, you mis-quote me.

I actually asked....

From your opposition of mine and other comments who back the current definition of marriage, should I assume that homosexuality is right up your street, and perhaps even up to your own back door?
Er.... I didn't misquote you at all!

Originally Posted by Sambob
If you do not wish to answer thats fine, but please don't try to insinuate that I am of the opinion that all who are for the re-definition of marriage to encompass homosexuals are homosexuals themselves....
Er... I didn't inisnuate that, you did!

Originally Posted by Sambob
No, I don't believe that. This stance I speak of is also held by people with no backbone, no true morals and values, the ignorant sheeple who say yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir, those who do not care about society or tomorrow, the vain, the egotistical, those who shirk away from natural affection and the natural laws of the universe. I could go on but I believe I may offend so I will stop there.
Why bother, I think you have gone beynd offensive with that paragraph anyway

Originally Posted by Sambob
Please note that the views that I hold are those of my own and are not intended to cause insult or offense to anyone.
Based on the previous paragraph may I suggest you keep them to yourself then

Originally Posted by Sambob
Yes, there have been many ignorant, mis-informed, uneducated people in times gone by, what is so different from today?
Nothing, look at you for instance!

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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Yep i have your number already. You cannot "disagree" with homosexuality. You, like most gay-bashers fundamentally fail to grasp that homosexuality is a combination of nature and nurture, not a lifestyle choice. Until you comprehend that basic fact of sexuality in humans (and not just humans), any further debate is futile. I'll leave it with you.
Oh yes I can disagree with homosexuality, and I think you can see that I disagree quite a bit from my posts!My bias towards heterosexuality comes from a conviction of what is good, decent, honest and true. This gives me the power to stand up for what is right despite all opposition and abuse.

Please note that if a homosexual person needed my help, I would still help them exactly the same as I would a heterosexual person, my bias for what is right does not affect my natural affection towards people, that would be wrong.

You labeling me a "gay-basher" is unfounded, untrue and is a testament to your ignorance.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Er.... I didn't misquote you at all!
Yes you did, please read properly.



Originally Posted by f1_fan
Er... I didn't inisnuate that, you did!
Hopefully my later post straightened this out.

Originally Posted by f1_fan
Why bother, I think you have gone beynd offensive with that paragraph anyway
I'm sorry if you are offended.

Originally Posted by f1_fan
Based on the previous paragraph may I suggest you keep them to yourself then
Am I in the wrong thread here? I thought the purpose of this topic was for exactly this?

Originally Posted by f1_fan
Nothing, look at you for instance!
Oh, ouch!
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Can you see how many people will not stand up for what is right, because of risk of this?

Don't be afraid of speaking out for what is right folks!

http://c4m.org.uk/

This is all I have to say on the topic for now as I have spent quite a bit of time on here now already, and this isn't even what I came for!

I actually logged in to post this - https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...7-hawkeye.html

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Originally Posted by Sambob
Can you see how many people will not stand up for what is right, because of risk of this?

Don't be afraid of speaking out for what is right folks!

http://c4m.org.uk/

This is all I have to say on the topic for now as I have spent quite a bit of time on here now already, and this isn't even what I came for!

I actually logged in to post this - https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...7-hawkeye.html

Darwin award nominee , first this year ?
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Christ,he only came in for a dump valve
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Originally Posted by Sambob
I'm sorry if you are offended.
You've not offended me, but some would take offence at what you wrote there.

Originally Posted by Sambob
Am I in the wrong thread here? I thought the purpose of this topic was for exactly this?
You said you didn't want to offend anyone with your views and as I pointed out above some may find being called ignorant etc. offensive ergo .... well you can work it out!
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Christ,he only came in for a dump valve
Dump valve?

That sounds relevant to this thread as well.
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Originally Posted by Sambob
Don't be afraid of speaking out for what is right folks!
Indeed.

Originally Posted by c_maguire
Dump valve?

That sounds relevant to this thread as well.
Doesn't it just
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Originally Posted by Sambob
Oh yes I can disagree with homosexuality, and I think you can see that I disagree quite a bit from my posts!My bias towards heterosexuality comes from a conviction of what I believe to be good, decent, honest and true. This gives me the power to stand up for what I believe is right despite all opposition and abuse.
edited for accuracy.

It's frustrating that the underlying issue is being missed; the motivation for pushing this bill through Parliament is not the desire to make Britain a better place but to win votes. Sambob and his ilk make it far more likely the bill will be passed because of their outdated and IMO offensive views...so the politicians are getting away with it again.

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