JC-R

I would be seething with anger and foaming at the mouth if i couldnt shake a fiesta especially on the bends !

Ive got a type r aswell and i also have a 2009 nissan gtr. Ok my type r is tuned - 2.1 stroker kit ,roger clarke forged, anti lag + launch, front mount etc etc , its running 380 bhp and i can honestly say that it would be a photo finnish against the gtr on a drag strip, and on the bends its just as good. Its got standard kyb gas struts with tein lowering springs , a good comprimise between comfort and handling.

There has got to be something wrong with your handling setup + tyres of your type r or you just dont know how far you can actually push an impreza and knowing their capabilities.

After sorting your car and then knowing how to drive it , If then you still cant leave a fiesta then just buy a fiesta

Tidgy

but coilovers are better,,,,,, lol

joking lol

i have kyb agx and eibach lowering springs on mine and it handels great

Ash170990

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your scooby is nearly as good as your GTR?!

i did a day in a GTR at silverstone and it was mind bogling.... my mate has one and its leaps and bound ahead of any car ive ever driven! and hes thinking of selling up and going back to a focus RS! even i wouldnt do that! lol

As for spings if it works for you thats cool, i personally dont like the idea of spings as it just seems a half assed job lol and technicly ruins the set up.... id rater buy adjustable coilovers then you can get them set to how you like it....

tubbytommy

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so one of your mates can beat you in a fiesta and another is selling his gtr for a focus....

also how do springs ruin the set up technically.

the car came from the factory with this set up and coilovers still have springs fitted

Ash170990

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because lowering it will change camber angles and all sorts so it wont be set up correctly, its the same with coilovers, but you have more to adjust to allow for these changes........ it may do a better job if your lucky, but as said its a half assed job....

and yes my mate is looking at selling his GTR to go back to an RS....

tubbytommy

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you do realise fitting coilovers will lower it and change camber angles, both methods will require a geometry set up

Ash170990

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yeah... thats why i changed my above post

c_maguire

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Ash170990

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Not really, i had the rs on finance so was costing me a fortune, i have bought the scooby out right so can put a little aside when i can afford too untill i have the money....

tubbytommy

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but so far you have told us your reshelling it, fitting new brakes gearbox and suspension, rebuilding the engine

oh and now considering a wide arch kit.

all not cheap options and probably not worth it on the car you have, much cheaper to buy a well sorted car.

if your trying to save money,rebuilding an impreza to that standard wont do it and i would think cost far more than the finance on your beloved focus.
Also when its finished be worth half of what it cost to build.

mantazini

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Proper set of schocks and springs will be better than chepo coils on b roads... Good set of coils cost not 700 quid but at least double that....Smtn like buddy club, bilsteins or kw3's .... See no point getting them for a fast road car.... and why would you need all of them settings for a road car anyway, next thing you'll get is udjustable lateral arms and will keep improving your local round about to the next junction times? I wouldnt bother...

tubbytommy

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no cheapie coilovers are better he read it in max power

mantazini

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Sometimes less is better than more.... The best of them all mod is to take a fast driving course in my opinion. makes you appreciate your car more and gives confidence to reach your own edge. Its rarely you can reach the cars edge unless your Mr Keiichi Tsuchiya or Mcrae... There always a gap to improve , in this case im not sure the lad is capable even 30% of it as fiesta is harassing him....

Just my 2p worth...

jura11

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Before you will waste the money,get done proper wheel alignment,its worth the money there

As above guys suggested to you don't waste money on something what you don't need



Jura

Dale17

Lol beat by a fiesta

Ash170990

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Yeah well that is the plan, i dont see wh yyour soo hung on costs? Its not like im spending your money, and id rather do it all myself as i know exactly whats been done and when....

And trust me builing a scoob to this standard is alot cheaper than finance on the rs plus running it plus modding it, so im still saving money....and i dont care how much its worth when i go to sell it, its either chuck say £30k at a car and get £10k back in a few years time or spend that £30k down the pub and get a hangover.....

tubbytommy

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so how much do you think it will cost to build and engine replace a gearbox,shocks brakes and fit a widearch kit??

Ash170990

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V3's or b16's are the plan, and it will be used for track too so i can then stiffen them and lower them for track days then raise and soften them for road driving...

Ash170990

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Engine build is around 10k, box around £1500, coilies around 1k breaks 1500-2000 then the widearch kit is 800ish plus paint....

Ash170990

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Cheers buddy, had this checked, it was fine, tyres maybe a cause tho as it only has falkens on it.l. May stick some ad08s or r888s on it....

tubbytommy

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so with the initial cost of the car being 5k and budgeting for other parts yuou have missed like clutch, tyres, arbs drop links etc you're well over 20k.

and as you said the rs was on finance i assume you dont have 20k so i cant see how its cheaper.

especially as when its done it wont be worth 10k.

if you stick r888's on you will be in the hedge in seconds, they do not like cold and wet.

Ash170990

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Because with the rs i was spending about 1k a month on it with fuel and finance, it got through a set of fromt tyres every 4-5k miles at 250 a corner so i wasnt saving anything a month and didnt have a choice other than to not use it in which case theres no point having it.... Where as with the scoob ive spent around £300 on fuel and bought the fmic, insurance is cheaper, tyres are cheaper and last longer, servicig is cheaper etc etc, everything about it is cheaper, thats how im saving money.... If i kept the rs and got it how i wanted it once id finished i would have soent around £50k on it....

bustaMOVEs

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You two need to go in FC and have your one on one

JC-R

Yeah my type r is just as quick as my gtr up to 120 but after that the gtr would be gone. Yes on a nice wide open track like silverstone my type r would struggle to keep up with the gtr , but on these twisty up and down b roads of mid wales where im from id be quicker in the type r from point a to point b i think. Power to weight measure my type r is probably more than the gtr, cant be arsed to do the maths at the mo.
On the open road or dual caridge way / motor way the gtr is immense and there's no way i'll be selling it any time soon.

mantazini

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You have a point , but.......

I know why Tubby is on his kneck, the lad has no sense on a scooby expences.... He's saying he cant aford to run a new RS which will probably would deapreciate 3 times less than he will throw a load into a classic scoob.... It's just doesn't add up , sorry... I'm not on anyones case ....but that sounds wrong IMHO...

Why don't you do yourself a favour before you waste your hard earned.... 15k will buy you a nice spec c - track orientated already, add a couple subtle mods and you'll have a proper track/road tool..

Elmo.

I'm a Subaru virgin and I've been really impressed with my car. It's 325bhp with h&r springs on updated shocks (can't remember the brand) and I'm constantly impressed with what it can do.
I only purchased the car as I was offered a good deal and knew someone who was interested to sell it on to, but I will definitely buy another when I have the funds.
I've always preferred evo's but know I've been converted lol.
I'd recommend a proper alignment, from my experience of rwd cars it transforms them. Anything that can kill under steer is awesome in my book!

4evernewbie

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You lot make me laugh.
IF this is not a wind up then the guy obviously can't drive or has bought a deathtrap which stuggles to stay on the road.
The bigger point here is the fact that you SN lot f***ing slate some guy for doing 90mph on the public highway with kids in the car (he said it was a straight road, good conditions etc etc - not getting into it) and yet (and this is what winds me up) this guy is RACING 300+bhp cars and lightweight hot hatches, on the limit, on the road!!!!
What the f**k is he playing at??
We all know what speeds these motors are capable of, both in a straight line and round corners. If some Fiesta is catching up to an Impreza (s**tbox or not) then one or all the cars are on the limit and this is plain dangerous. I dread to imagine how long this "race" went on for.
I DO NOT GIVE A BLIND F**K if you were the only ones in the cars, anyone (with kids in the car) could be coming the other way with you lot doing possibly 3figure speeds at the limit of what your tyres can do.
Idiots.

It doesn't really surprise me that some of you have deviated from your well deserved reputation for newbie bashing when it comes to speeding on the public highway - he avoided that by suggesting that the forum subject (Subaru Imprezas) aren't what you make them out to be then back pedalled into this "I need to spend thousands to make it handle perfectly" thread.

If anyone wants to discuss my idea of safe driving on the road then PM me, wouldn't want to deviate from the original thread subject

Aaaaaaannnnnnndddddd, rant over.

c_maguire

However, why would anyone buy a performance biased road car if they intend on obeying the speed limits at all times?
Vanity perhaps?
I've never got my head around this one.
Once we accept that we will choose to ignore some speed limits then the real issue is the standard of driving. Some can exceed the limit by a large margin in a safe manner whilst others struggle to drive safely at the speed limit.

tubbytommy

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there is a difference between the odd bit of spirited driving and racing your chav mates in fiesta's

the fiesta is either being driven on the ragged edge to keep up with an impreza,the impreza is in such bad condition its dangereous or the impreza driver has so little driving skill he is a danger to himself and others

any of the above is an accident waiting to happen.

Infected by sti

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If a fiesta was glued to his rear then They wern going that fast anyway