Cosworth CS400
14 January 2013, 12:46 PM
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Yes all 75 cars were made and delivered ti IM. The final car to be actually sold went only a few months ago.
Regarding pictures I will speak with my engine builder and see if he is happy to put some up. Please understand that will be his choice.
Regarding updates - we are working on bringing some updates to the car through the official dealer network. This will be done in partnership with a well known dealer franchise in Warwickshire and will be available later in the year.
Cheers
Regarding pictures I will speak with my engine builder and see if he is happy to put some up. Please understand that will be his choice.
Regarding updates - we are working on bringing some updates to the car through the official dealer network. This will be done in partnership with a well known dealer franchise in Warwickshire and will be available later in the year.
Cheers
15 January 2013, 08:41 PM
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Yes all 75 cars were made and delivered ti IM. The final car to be actually sold went only a few months ago.
Regarding pictures I will speak with my engine builder and see if he is happy to put some up. Please understand that will be his choice.
Regarding updates - we are working on bringing some updates to the car through the official dealer network. This will be done in partnership with a well known dealer franchise in Warwickshire and will be available later in the year.
Cheers
Regarding pictures I will speak with my engine builder and see if he is happy to put some up. Please understand that will be his choice.
Regarding updates - we are working on bringing some updates to the car through the official dealer network. This will be done in partnership with a well known dealer franchise in Warwickshire and will be available later in the year.
Cheers
Ask him nicely for us Who is the dealer in Warwickshire you speak of?
15 January 2013, 10:29 PM
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Yes all 75 cars were made and delivered ti IM. The final car to be actually sold went only a few months ago.
Regarding pictures I will speak with my engine builder and see if he is happy to put some up. Please understand that will be his choice.
Regarding updates - we are working on bringing some updates to the car through the official dealer network. This will be done in partnership with a well known dealer franchise in Warwickshire and will be available later in the year.
Cheers
Regarding pictures I will speak with my engine builder and see if he is happy to put some up. Please understand that will be his choice.
Regarding updates - we are working on bringing some updates to the car through the official dealer network. This will be done in partnership with a well known dealer franchise in Warwickshire and will be available later in the year.
Cheers
16 January 2013, 05:23 AM
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Think he works at Cosworth Steve, but the thought did pop into my head to anyone can create a profile and answer a question.......the proof is in the pudding please show us soe pics of the white CS400/500
16 January 2013, 10:18 AM
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So yes I do work at Cosworth, as the Programme Manager for Cosworth Aftermarket Europe and the CS400 is my project which I designed and tested so please don't all hurl abuse at me just yet
Newgalaxy (Richard) can confirm this as he emailed us last Thursday looking for updates to the programme.
I can't discuss plans for updates any further just yet other than to say that it is in the pipeline with a very reputable dealer on board to distribute the concept.
My engine builder has given me 2 pictures of our CS500 to put up but I am afraid I don't know how to do it
so if anyone can help I will put them up.Thanks
Brad.
16 January 2013, 11:50 AM
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16 January 2013, 12:37 PM
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While that is entirely possible, you would have to be pretty sad to take the time to create a login just to answer a question you knew nothing about........wouldn't you?
So yes I do work at Cosworth, as the Programme Manager for Cosworth Aftermarket Europe and the CS400 is my project which I designed and tested so please don't all hurl abuse at me just yet
Newgalaxy (Richard) can confirm this as he emailed us last Thursday looking for updates to the programme.
I can't discuss plans for updates any further just yet other than to say that it is in the pipeline with a very reputable dealer on board to distribute the concept.
My engine builder has given me 2 pictures of our CS500 to put up but I am afraid I don't know how to do it so if anyone can help I will put them up.
Thanks
Brad.
So yes I do work at Cosworth, as the Programme Manager for Cosworth Aftermarket Europe and the CS400 is my project which I designed and tested so please don't all hurl abuse at me just yet
Newgalaxy (Richard) can confirm this as he emailed us last Thursday looking for updates to the programme.
I can't discuss plans for updates any further just yet other than to say that it is in the pipeline with a very reputable dealer on board to distribute the concept.
My engine builder has given me 2 pictures of our CS500 to put up but I am afraid I don't know how to do it
so if anyone can help I will put them up.Thanks
Brad.
If you want e-mail me the pics and I'll bang them up for you performancecentermanchester@hotmail.co.uk
16 January 2013, 12:38 PM
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16 January 2013, 01:13 PM
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Welcome to the club Brad.......the cossie is your baby then
If you want e-mail me the pics and I'll bang them up for you performancecentermanchester@hotmail.co.uk
If you want e-mail me the pics and I'll bang them up for you performancecentermanchester@hotmail.co.uk
Thank you both.
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16 January 2013, 02:37 PM
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Brad, thanks for clearing that all up, I didn't mean anything by if I was just curious of how you knew facts and figures so thought I would ask. It's great to have you on board and I assume it's cross Roads that you are dealing with as of the link to the pro r gear.
Anyhow welcome and thank you for the input already. And congratulations on the cs400 its a great bit of kit just a shame of the price point. Would love to trade the 330s in for one just seems a shame you couldn't of based it on the my11 with all the updates and then taken it and made it even better don't get me wrong the Cs is great but think most would agree it was a shame it was not the my11
Anyhow welcome and thank you for the input already. And congratulations on the cs400 its a great bit of kit just a shame of the price point. Would love to trade the 330s in for one just seems a shame you couldn't of based it on the my11 with all the updates and then taken it and made it even better don't get me wrong the Cs is great but think most would agree it was a shame it was not the my11
16 January 2013, 02:48 PM
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No problem Steve, appreciate your kind words on the car.
Yes pricing was and is always a tricky subject but if you take a look at the sheer cost of the components on the car its not difficult to see where it went.
For example the CS400 exhaust and race cats are still the only type approved legal cat on the market for that car. We paid a frightening sum of money to have that system approved for road use.
The fact is we could have done a lot more with the car but that would have pushed the price up even more and it would be suddenly become a £75K car quite easily so inevitably there were some compromises.
I would have loved to have done a CS400 Saloon but unfortunately we were not allowed
Hopefull the pictures of our 000 car shold be up soon and that does have all the parts on we wanted to put on the car such as our ported heads, our inlet manifold and our FMIC in addition it also has the original spec exhaust (loud).
Yes pricing was and is always a tricky subject but if you take a look at the sheer cost of the components on the car its not difficult to see where it went.
For example the CS400 exhaust and race cats are still the only type approved legal cat on the market for that car. We paid a frightening sum of money to have that system approved for road use.
The fact is we could have done a lot more with the car but that would have pushed the price up even more and it would be suddenly become a £75K car quite easily so inevitably there were some compromises.
I would have loved to have done a CS400 Saloon but unfortunately we were not allowed
Hopefull the pictures of our 000 car shold be up soon and that does have all the parts on we wanted to put on the car such as our ported heads, our inlet manifold and our FMIC in addition it also has the original spec exhaust (loud).
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16 January 2013, 05:51 PM
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Great info Brad,thanks for the pics.Thank your engine builder for us. Looks great in white. Looking forward to seeing whats in the pipeline.
16 January 2013, 11:50 PM
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No problem Steve, appreciate your kind words on the car.
Yes pricing was and is always a tricky subject but if you take a look at the sheer cost of the components on the car its not difficult to see where it went.
For example the CS400 exhaust and race cats are still the only type approved legal cat on the market for that car. We paid a frightening sum of money to have that system approved for road use.
The fact is we could have done a lot more with the car but that would have pushed the price up even more and it would be suddenly become a £75K car quite easily so inevitably there were some compromises.
I would have loved to have done a CS400 Saloon but unfortunately we were not allowed
Hopefull the pictures of our 000 car shold be up soon and that does have all the parts on we wanted to put on the car such as our ported heads, our inlet manifold and our FMIC in addition it also has the original spec exhaust (loud).
Yes pricing was and is always a tricky subject but if you take a look at the sheer cost of the components on the car its not difficult to see where it went.
For example the CS400 exhaust and race cats are still the only type approved legal cat on the market for that car. We paid a frightening sum of money to have that system approved for road use.
The fact is we could have done a lot more with the car but that would have pushed the price up even more and it would be suddenly become a £75K car quite easily so inevitably there were some compromises.
I would have loved to have done a CS400 Saloon but unfortunately we were not allowed
Hopefull the pictures of our 000 car shold be up soon and that does have all the parts on we wanted to put on the car such as our ported heads, our inlet manifold and our FMIC in addition it also has the original spec exhaust (loud).
It would be interesting to know how come the warranty that was issued was reduced and you mention these extras so I assume you have faith in pushing the engine further so I will ask what do you rate the capabilities of the engine in the cs400? As I gather there wouldn't be dealer fit options on the cards especially power hikes if you were not confident in the capabilities of the engine
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17 January 2013, 07:10 AM
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The reduced mileage warranty on the CS400 is an interesting one. Not great from a marketing point of view, especially given that it was initially reported as being longer ??
17 January 2013, 09:30 AM
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We have customers running very similar configurations engines at the 600bhp mark reliably.
I can't comment on the warranty side of things as it wasn't provided by Cosworth, that was from IM but tbh is pretty good for a high performance car like this.
The upgrades that are in the pipeline will be available through the dealer network.
Sadly we were not allowed to do the conversion on the MY11 car which is why we used the hatch.
I can't comment on the warranty side of things as it wasn't provided by Cosworth, that was from IM but tbh is pretty good for a high performance car like this.
The upgrades that are in the pipeline will be available through the dealer network.
Sadly we were not allowed to do the conversion on the MY11 car which is why we used the hatch.
17 January 2013, 07:27 PM
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We have customers running very similar configurations engines at the 600bhp mark reliably.
I can't comment on the warranty side of things as it wasn't provided by Cosworth, that was from IM but tbh is pretty good for a high performance car like this.
The upgrades that are in the pipeline will be available through the dealer network.
Sadly we were not allowed to do the conversion on the MY11 car which is why we used the hatch.
I can't comment on the warranty side of things as it wasn't provided by Cosworth, that was from IM but tbh is pretty good for a high performance car like this.
The upgrades that are in the pipeline will be available through the dealer network.
Sadly we were not allowed to do the conversion on the MY11 car which is why we used the hatch.
could you specify similar configurations or more to the point, of what?
The factory built Cosworth block that is fitted as standard is good for what power out put?
And if these mods were carried out, how does that implicate the warranty? Surely as the ecu would need to be remapped it would void the remaining warranty and although the intention is to sell your upgrades via the Subaru channel again how will that work with the mapping the mods and your warranty?
Fair enough over the warranty. Are you able to shed any light on the upgrades or is that under wraps. We're there not my11 hatches though, or as stated above it was more to shift the older stock prior to the new model coming up.
22 January 2013, 10:08 AM
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Hello peeps....sorry for the delay, I own number 57 in Silver registered in 2012. It was the Cossie used in the Prodrive 20th Anniversary Timeline.
I bought mine back in July, got it for a good price (as a few have been discussing there are deals to be done), including an extension to 3 years warranty, tax, METASAT points etc....
In my humble opinion, I have owned JDM's, WR1's etc....and this is a different bread of Subaru. I use it as my daily runner (already at 7500) and it really can be both an "down to the shops" or "scare the living **** out of my best friend" type of car. I am more than happy with mine and its kind of nice to have a little piece of history which makes me smile on my way to work each morning. Life can be pretty **** and in some cases short. So all the haters.....why spend £30k+ on a scooby? The Question really should be why not!
I bought mine back in July, got it for a good price (as a few have been discussing there are deals to be done), including an extension to 3 years warranty, tax, METASAT points etc....
In my humble opinion, I have owned JDM's, WR1's etc....and this is a different bread of Subaru. I use it as my daily runner (already at 7500) and it really can be both an "down to the shops" or "scare the living **** out of my best friend" type of car. I am more than happy with mine and its kind of nice to have a little piece of history which makes me smile on my way to work each morning. Life can be pretty **** and in some cases short. So all the haters.....why spend £30k+ on a scooby? The Question really should be why not!
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Ok, sorry to keep asking questions but hey a couple more for you
could you specify similar configurations or more to the point, of what?
The factory built Cosworth block that is fitted as standard is good for what power out put?
And if these mods were carried out, how does that implicate the warranty? Surely as the ecu would need to be remapped it would void the remaining warranty and although the intention is to sell your upgrades via the Subaru channel again how will that work with the mapping the mods and your warranty?
Fair enough over the warranty. Are you able to shed any light on the upgrades or is that under wraps. We're there not my11 hatches though, or as stated above it was more to shift the older stock prior to the new model coming up.
could you specify similar configurations or more to the point, of what?
The factory built Cosworth block that is fitted as standard is good for what power out put?
And if these mods were carried out, how does that implicate the warranty? Surely as the ecu would need to be remapped it would void the remaining warranty and although the intention is to sell your upgrades via the Subaru channel again how will that work with the mapping the mods and your warranty?
Fair enough over the warranty. Are you able to shed any light on the upgrades or is that under wraps. We're there not my11 hatches though, or as stated above it was more to shift the older stock prior to the new model coming up.
No problem Steve, appreciate your kind words on the car.
Yes pricing was and is always a tricky subject but if you take a look at the sheer cost of the components on the car its not difficult to see where it went.
For example the CS400 exhaust and race cats are still the only type approved legal cat on the market for that car. We paid a frightening sum of money to have that system approved for road use.
The fact is we could have done a lot more with the car but that would have pushed the price up even more and it would be suddenly become a £75K car quite easily so inevitably there were some compromises.
I would have loved to have done a CS400 Saloon but unfortunately we were not allowed
Hopefull the pictures of our 000 car shold be up soon and that does have all the parts on we wanted to put on the car such as our ported heads, our inlet manifold and our FMIC in addition it also has the original spec exhaust (loud).
Yes pricing was and is always a tricky subject but if you take a look at the sheer cost of the components on the car its not difficult to see where it went.
For example the CS400 exhaust and race cats are still the only type approved legal cat on the market for that car. We paid a frightening sum of money to have that system approved for road use.
The fact is we could have done a lot more with the car but that would have pushed the price up even more and it would be suddenly become a £75K car quite easily so inevitably there were some compromises.
I would have loved to have done a CS400 Saloon but unfortunately we were not allowed
Hopefull the pictures of our 000 car shold be up soon and that does have all the parts on we wanted to put on the car such as our ported heads, our inlet manifold and our FMIC in addition it also has the original spec exhaust (loud).
I too would be interested how / if the upgrades will affect the warranty. Looking forward to the new additions!
22 January 2013, 07:00 PM
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Hello peeps....sorry for the delay, I own number 57 in Silver registered in 2012. It was the Cossie used in the Prodrive 20th Anniversary Timeline.
I bought mine back in July, got it for a good price (as a few have been discussing there are deals to be done), including an extension to 3 years warranty, tax, METASAT points etc....
In my humble opinion, I have owned JDM's, WR1's etc....and this is a different bread of Subaru. I use it as my daily runner (already at 7500) and it really can be both an "down to the shops" or "scare the living **** out of my best friend" type of car. I am more than happy with mine and its kind of nice to have a little piece of history which makes me smile on my way to work each morning. Life can be pretty **** and in some cases short. So all the haters.....why spend £30k+ on a scooby? The Question really should be why not!
I bought mine back in July, got it for a good price (as a few have been discussing there are deals to be done), including an extension to 3 years warranty, tax, METASAT points etc....
In my humble opinion, I have owned JDM's, WR1's etc....and this is a different bread of Subaru. I use it as my daily runner (already at 7500) and it really can be both an "down to the shops" or "scare the living **** out of my best friend" type of car. I am more than happy with mine and its kind of nice to have a little piece of history which makes me smile on my way to work each morning. Life can be pretty **** and in some cases short. So all the haters.....why spend £30k+ on a scooby? The Question really should be why not!
22 January 2013, 07:19 PM
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Total 75 Customer Cars
And 3 other builds
59 Cars registered on roads of UK
7 Declared SORN
"P000" CS500 White Cosworth Employee
Press Prototype-01 Silver (? written off)
Press Prototype-02 (C.C.) 2010 Black Isle of Man
1. 2010 Silver Andy Edmiston IM
8. 2011 Black for sale at Mangoletsi
10. 2011 Black for sale at Eaglesham
26. 2012 Red Busterbulldog South Wales
45. 2011 Red Monsterenergy Scotland (info via SIDC)
54. 2012 Silver thenewgalaxy Lancashire & Warwickshire
57. 2012 Silver Kungfujim444 Reading
75. 2011 Silver mikeyw Midlands
And 3 other builds
59 Cars registered on roads of UK
7 Declared SORN
"P000" CS500 White Cosworth Employee
Press Prototype-01 Silver (? written off)
Press Prototype-02 (C.C.) 2010 Black Isle of Man
1. 2010 Silver Andy Edmiston IM
8. 2011 Black for sale at Mangoletsi
10. 2011 Black for sale at Eaglesham
26. 2012 Red Busterbulldog South Wales
45. 2011 Red Monsterenergy Scotland (info via SIDC)
54. 2012 Silver thenewgalaxy Lancashire & Warwickshire
57. 2012 Silver Kungfujim444 Reading
75. 2011 Silver mikeyw Midlands