David Lock

It pisses me off that one man, Salmond, can strut about bullying people to break up the Union on a personal crusade. Traitor.

Fortunately he will lose but I suppose he will then start bleating about Treasury breaking the law and demanding a re-run.

dl

nizmo80

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beat me too it

I was coming home to go and post this

Also George Galloway shouted out the yessers are ****'s which was edited out as well its all over facebook from people who were there during the debate.

also with the BBC teen debate the voting teens were told to say they are no voters or undecided aswell because the yes voting teens were the majority
this has been reported from a few different people here is just one of them
with loads of people who were there confirming this to be correct !!

also edited out of this BBC teen debate was the boo's the no campaign recieved when onstage which was the majority of teens there Booing !



90% of the media is biased in the no camps favor they are a true embarrassment to the UK.

Also here is some of better togethers slippery misleading manipulation



59 secondary schools here with the over 16's polls on how they are voting and the
better together say the majority of school and university's are voting no

well there are 364 secondary schools in Scotland
and 15 university's as well
total 379

so if the 59 schools and university's are voting no amongst the over 16's
what about the other 320 schools and university's ????????
are they voting yes as if they were no they would be on this propaganda statistic picture from NOT better together !

the NOT better together sink to new lows !!!!

not only the BBC but most newspapers are Biased as well as mostly english owned and sided with westminster

jasey

I thought you said you ignored the polls

PS I heard it today on the grapevine that in the event of yes vote Nessie is re-locating to lake Windemere - but keep it secret

nizmo80

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I am not saying I am paying attention to the numbers jasey
but the better together camp is saying the majority of schools and universitys are voting no from 59 out of 379 schools and universitys
its a total manipulation of the truth
what are the other 320 voting,,,if it was no then they would be on this statistic picture aswelll,,,,,I suspect the others are yes majority

LOL I heard nessie was packing his bags as we speak

Devildog

This made me chuckle...

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co...e-darling.html

Carnut

The way I see it via the media is the no vote was strong in the early days and recently the yes vote has caught up and has over taken the no vote but has not got momentum as there has been a slight rise with the no vote also.

nizmo80

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the polls show a couple of thousand at a times opinion tho
so I dont trust the polls as compared to 4250,000 registered voters which is 97% of the voting population it really could go either way
even if one side showed 90% of polled votes right upto the actual vote you know what I mean

Nimbus

Well, it's going to be very close, though I think the No will have it by a whisker...

nizmo80

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possibly but who knows really could swing either way
I think the BBC's behavior and the no campaigns misleading shows a different picture.

they are in control of the mainstream media and before the BBC
are editing out of their televised debates

the no campaign being booed at a voting teens debate
and asking the teens on that show to say they are either no voters or undecided because there are to many yes voters

and deliberately lying about salmond answering questions on a debate.
amongst other things.

they could be lying about who is really winning in the hope of projecting the image of winning so other people join them.

Alan Jeffery

Some of our Scottish Friends think it's a good idea to throw caution to the winds, divorce their wife, and run off with the enticing tart who offers a life of endless excess and pleasure.

Another Man's grass?





Be careful what you wish for..

ScoobyWon't

This made me laugh...

Vote "Yes" or else...

jasey

Told ya

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...th-border.html

SJ_Skyline

I sincerely hope you get what you are seeking Nizmo. Your vociferous defence of independence on this thread is to be admired.

RA Dunk

Everything else has been stolen from us so you might as well take Nessie as well.

RA Dunk

The level of corruptness from the BBC over all of this has been outstanding TBH, more like communism than a democracy TBH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EML...ature=youtu.be

Here's another (not BBC related) that's worthy of a read.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brettare...ameful-secret/

taylor85

iTrader: (5)

I'm not fussed to be honest , if they want independence let them have it . People keep going on about the debt but it's pretty clear cut really .

The argument of how much it puts in / takes out confuses me . I got family in Scotland ( in laws ) and first time I went up there I was shocked at amount of people at bus stops , wife's cousin said not everyone can afford cars plus the public areas and amount of social housing was unreal !

I went out with wife's cousins and 3 of their mates and only one had a job ? I know were talking about a small area of Scotland but is this England's fault ? Will the split allow more jobs for these young lads ?

I do alot work in Scotland for a known retailer and they been shutting up as they don't make money up there and the England side supports the Scottish and some welsh stores , then you see so many run down areas it's depressing

If the split ment more jobs / better standard if living then I would agree with it but I think it will take several years to turn it around

Carnut

Its not the rest of the uk thats under the spotlight, its Scotland, and if you dont think that BBC should be asking tough questions and trying to back Samond into a corner under pressure then we will have to agree to disagree.

Do you honestly expect the press to ever go easy on mp's**maybe it looks different from down here but from where I sit the media always give mp's a hard time.*


Maybe if Salmond had confident answers and stopped changing the subject then his interviews would go a little smoother.

Carnut

The average Scottish person gets £1200 more per head than we do in England, how much do you want?

RA Dunk

Did you even bother to watch any of that, if you did you completely missed the point in all of it?

The point of it wasn't the so called tough questions you talk of but the level of bias and corruption from the BBC over it.

and if you care to even watch it you will see Salmond dosen't change the subject he answers the questions he is asked, it's the BBC who edit the coverage to look like he is changing the subject.

jonc

I have to agree with the reporting from Nick Robinson, his summary was pretty poor. But the BBC aren't the only media reporting this event and there are mixed views and opinions and erroneous facts and figures coming from both sides. It comes down to what the individual believes in and/or who shouts the loudest. Either way, it will be a great historic event and one that I will have the opportunity to witness.

Carnut

Firstly it is my understanding that the banks etc have a legal requirement to make their up and coming change public knowledge, secondly when the video shows what actually happened it was the bbc, so the bbc are giving the real events and the edited version that is bias?

Samond does change the point, he trys to either avoid the question altogether or his new tack is to try and discredit the people that ask the questions he doesn't like.

sweden

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Will be interesting to see if there will be an investigation into the bbc over that, I must have watched a different vid as he seemed to answer the questions to me.

Carnut

At the start of the vid the bbc ask some fair questions that are being raised and the first response from Salmond is to try and discredit the bbc. After answering the question he then jumped straight onto discrediting westminster.

RA Dunk

I thought he did as well, but according the Chris he didn't.

RA Dunk

The BBC and Westminster manages to discredit themselves ,They don't need Salmond for that..

jasey

Robinson asked "Why should we believe you over what the banks are telling us ?"

Salmond, as usual, went off of one with bluff and blunder about how corporation tax works or how it's old news.

And I'm pretty sure Salmond is one of the many who bitch about Amazon et all paying their corp tax in Luxembourg whilst doing business in the UK - but of course in iScotland he would be able to stop that (despite it being a global problem).

Carnut

I think I may need to apologise a bit I have been trying to watch this video but due to bad interweb its been buffering and so on but I have now been able to watch it fully and to be fair Samond was not so bad.

sweden

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But that was the answer to the questions asked

And that a certain head office was and has been located in the uk for a number of years

Don't get me wrong I'm on neither side but at least let them have a fair referendum jesus

jonc

What is also a good possibility is the fact that whilst there will be economic activity within those banks and businesses, that there will be a slow migration of staff; that new hires will mostly occur south of the boarder and a downsizing in iScotland as businesses move south.

RA Dunk

Why woulden't we? It's not as though they (Bankers) are well known for their honesty, they are only known for their bailouts, greed and fat cat bonuses.....

This bloke describes bankers quite well TBH...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=592472827527934