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and where does alot of that oil get sold to,,,,yea thats right Europe
so I would not imagine they would stand by once a quarter of their oil supply stopped because of invasion would they
and this is probably why if we choose it we will have no problems getting into the European union as well
so I would not imagine they would stand by once a quarter of their oil supply stopped because of invasion would they
and this is probably why if we choose it we will have no problems getting into the European union as well
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and where does alot of that oil get sold to,,,,yea thats right Europe
so I would not imagine they would stand by once a quarter of their oil supply stopped because of invasion would they
and this is probably why if we choose it we will have no problems getting into the European union as well
so I would not imagine they would stand by once a quarter of their oil supply stopped because of invasion would they
and this is probably why if we choose it we will have no problems getting into the European union as well
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
if we choose it we will have no problems getting into the European union as well
Once in, you'll have no control of your borders, so you'll not be able to stop those illegals who are in France heading your way. After all, why would they want to come to England after Salmond has promised lower taxes and more welfare/benefits for Scotland?
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I've already asked, do you want to join the EU after independence?
Once in, you'll have no control of your borders, so you'll not be able to stop those illegals who are in France heading your way. After all, why would they want to come to England after Salmond has promised lower taxes and more welfare/benefits for Scotland?
Once in, you'll have no control of your borders, so you'll not be able to stop those illegals who are in France heading your way. After all, why would they want to come to England after Salmond has promised lower taxes and more welfare/benefits for Scotland?
I am warming upto the scotland in the EU
he never promised lower taxes but says he has no plans to increase them
and neither do you have control either !
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Not heard of the Schengen agreement? All new members of the EU cannot opt out of it. It allows for the free movement of people throughout the EU. The current UK opted out of it, that's why there is a border control in Calais to (try to) catch illegal immigrants.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
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Not heard of the Schengen agreement? All new members of the EU cannot opt out of it. It allows for the free movement of people throughout the EU. The current UK opted out of it, that's why there is a border control in Calais to (try to) catch illegal immigrants.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
So you are telling me there are your border patrols catching illegal immigrants at calais which is one of the main gateways into the uk
where the immigrants would need to pass through to get through england
then up into scotland PMSL
Looks like you will be doing that job for us ROTFPMSL
great argument there
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So you are telling me there are your border patrols catching illegal immigrants at calais which is one of the main gateways into the uk
where the immigrants would need to pass through to get through england
then up into scotland PMSL
Looks like you will be doing that job for us ROTFPMSL
great argument there
where the immigrants would need to pass through to get through england
then up into scotland PMSL
Looks like you will be doing that job for us ROTFPMSL
great argument there
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Seriously how could I think trident is OK ?
it's sole purpose is for mass killing which would be civilians in other country who would pay with their lifes if ever used
it costs massive amounts to keep going which could be better spent on things that we need.
and with EU membership which like a money union will happen we wont need them anyways
Oooo gotcha on the EU question and you sidestep LOL
it's sole purpose is for mass killing which would be civilians in other country who would pay with their lifes if ever used
it costs massive amounts to keep going which could be better spent on things that we need.
and with EU membership which like a money union will happen we wont need them anyways
Oooo gotcha on the EU question and you sidestep LOL
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Seriously how could I think trident is OK ?
it's sole purpose is for mass killing which would be civilians in other country who would pay with their lifes if ever used
it costs massive amounts to keep going which could be better spent on things that we need.
and with EU membership which like a money union will happen we wont need them anyways
it's sole purpose is for mass killing which would be civilians in other country who would pay with their lifes if ever used
it costs massive amounts to keep going which could be better spent on things that we need.
and with EU membership which like a money union will happen we wont need them anyways
As for not needing it because you're in the EU, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that.
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But the reality of trident is that it's a deterrent, by maintaining second strike capability it makes it less likely that anyone else will launch a nuclear attack. It's like car insurance, you'd much rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
As for not needing it because you're in the EU, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that.
As for not needing it because you're in the EU, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that.
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Oh please, really? For every pro article there is at least one against it! just google it.
Here, to start you off if you want to read some
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-9131925.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...t-central-bank
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29126385
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...0H31FK20140908
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...embership.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...membership-mps
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29043878
Oh let me guess, Government has "fixed" the reporting.
Here, to start you off if you want to read some
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-9131925.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...t-central-bank
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29126385
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...0H31FK20140908
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...embership.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...membership-mps
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29043878
Oh let me guess, Government has "fixed" the reporting.
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Oh please, really? For every pro article there is at least one against it! just google it.
Here, to start you off if you want to read some
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-9131925.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...t-central-bank
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29126385
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...0H31FK20140908
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...embership.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...membership-mps
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29043878
Oh let me guess, Government has "fixed" the reporting.
Here, to start you off if you want to read some
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...o-9131925.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...t-central-bank
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29126385
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...0H31FK20140908
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...embership.html
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...membership-mps
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29043878
Oh let me guess, Government has "fixed" the reporting.
who has better inside knowledge than you ever will and I notice none of those articles have the former president of the EU behind them or anybody even close to his stature and some of those are from as far back as February and the this was pat *** saying this TODAY
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So you are telling me there are your border patrols catching illegal immigrants at calais which is one of the main gateways into the uk
where the immigrants would need to pass through to get through england
then up into scotland PMSL
Looks like you will be doing that job for us ROTFPMSL
great argument there
where the immigrants would need to pass through to get through england
then up into scotland PMSL
Looks like you will be doing that job for us ROTFPMSL
great argument there
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Ok go dispute this with salmond directly this is from his facebook page earlier today
who has better inside knowledge than you ever will and I notice none of those articles have the former president of the EU behind them or anybody even close to his stature and some of those are from as far back as February and the this was pat *** saying this TODAY
who has better inside knowledge than you ever will and I notice none of those articles have the former president of the EU behind them or anybody even close to his stature and some of those are from as far back as February and the this was pat *** saying this TODAY
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PLANS to reduce the rate of corporation tax in an independent Scotland could produce a “race to the bottom”, the Chartered Institute of Taxation (CIOT) has warned.
The Scottish Government’s independence White Paper contains plans gradually to reduce the tax by up to three percentage points below the prevailing UK rate.
The policy is aimed at securing a competitive advantage and helping to “reverse the loss of corporate headquarters”.
The CIOT, which represents taxation professionals, also said the tax cut for businesses “does not appear to tie in” with other aims set out by the Government such as social cohesion and sustaining public services.
The CIOT is among a number of organisations due to give evidence to Holyrood’s Economy Committee as part of its inquiry into Scotland’s economic future post-2014.
It outlined its concerns in a written submission to the committee.
It said: “We are concerned about the stated policy of reducing the rate of corporation tax by up to three percentage points. This could produce a ‘race to the bottom’ with the UK matching Scottish rates.
“Corporation tax is a relatively small tax source. The cost of labour to businesses is far greater, and if other policies, such as the minimum wage proposals, result in an increase in labour costs, this could outweigh the corporation tax gain to an investor.
“Another concern is that it does not appear to tie in with other visions set out by the Scottish Government, such as building social cohesion, sustaining public services and joining up tax and welfare benefits policy.”
The Law Society of Scotland is also due to give evidence to the committee.
Its written submission also addressed issues surrounding corporation tax.
It said: “If Scottish rates of tax were markedly lower than the rest of the UK, it raises the question of whether Scotland would be able to raise sufficient revenue to maintain adequate public services, including health, welfare and education services.
The Scottish Government’s independence White Paper contains plans gradually to reduce the tax by up to three percentage points below the prevailing UK rate.
The policy is aimed at securing a competitive advantage and helping to “reverse the loss of corporate headquarters”.
The CIOT, which represents taxation professionals, also said the tax cut for businesses “does not appear to tie in” with other aims set out by the Government such as social cohesion and sustaining public services.
The CIOT is among a number of organisations due to give evidence to Holyrood’s Economy Committee as part of its inquiry into Scotland’s economic future post-2014.
It outlined its concerns in a written submission to the committee.
It said: “We are concerned about the stated policy of reducing the rate of corporation tax by up to three percentage points. This could produce a ‘race to the bottom’ with the UK matching Scottish rates.
“Corporation tax is a relatively small tax source. The cost of labour to businesses is far greater, and if other policies, such as the minimum wage proposals, result in an increase in labour costs, this could outweigh the corporation tax gain to an investor.
“Another concern is that it does not appear to tie in with other visions set out by the Scottish Government, such as building social cohesion, sustaining public services and joining up tax and welfare benefits policy.”
The Law Society of Scotland is also due to give evidence to the committee.
Its written submission also addressed issues surrounding corporation tax.
It said: “If Scottish rates of tax were markedly lower than the rest of the UK, it raises the question of whether Scotland would be able to raise sufficient revenue to maintain adequate public services, including health, welfare and education services.
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You trying to tell me that the FORMER president wont still have ties and people he is close with in the EU
dont see any of those links you posted having anybody of worth other than
newspaper reporters blabbing on crap
Newspaper reports vs FORMER president of the EU
Mmmmm I will take the ex presidents word for it rather than a bunch of reporters trying to sell newspapers or you for that matter
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You trying to tell me that the FORMER president wont still have ties and people he is close with in the EU
dont see any of those links you posted having anybody of worth other than
newspaper reporters blabbing on crap
Newspaper reports vs FORMER president of the EU
Mmmmm I will take the ex presidents word for it rather than a bunch of reporters trying to sell newspapers or you for that matter
dont see any of those links you posted having anybody of worth other than
newspaper reporters blabbing on crap
Newspaper reports vs FORMER president of the EU
Mmmmm I will take the ex presidents word for it rather than a bunch of reporters trying to sell newspapers or you for that matter
I think if you actually read what Pat *** says, he is more concerned with EU's position on Scottish-related access to Norwegian fisheries.
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You trying to tell me that the FORMER president wont still have ties and people he is close with in the EU
dont see any of those links you posted having anybody of worth other than
newspaper reporters blabbing on crap
Newspaper reports vs FORMER president of the EU
Mmmmm I will take the ex presidents word for it rather than a bunch of reporters trying to sell newspapers or you for that matter
dont see any of those links you posted having anybody of worth other than
newspaper reporters blabbing on crap
Newspaper reports vs FORMER president of the EU
Mmmmm I will take the ex presidents word for it rather than a bunch of reporters trying to sell newspapers or you for that matter
Is your desire for Independence driven by the knowledge that you will probably never get a socialist goverment in Westminster?
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I can't be bothered reading through all previous pages, so I'm not sure if its been mentioned about the huge untapped oilfields off Scotland's west coast?
The MOD blocked all applications for a license to drill. Their reason was that oil rigs could pose a danger to nuclear subs in the area.
The MOD blocked all applications for a license to drill. Their reason was that oil rigs could pose a danger to nuclear subs in the area.