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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Perhaps Israel should become less militarily effective, remove its bomb shelters, disengage Iron Dome and move its facilities in to residential areas to even the score up a bit.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Resorting to insults now. Yet you accuse me of being rude.

Besides you're the one being obtuse.
It was an attempt at humour, Did you not see the smiley? I wrongly thought someone with the user name Einstein would have a fun side and a sense of whimsy unless of course that is your real name.

Calling me obtuse to avoid answering the question I asked earlier speaks volumes.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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The pictures of Palestinian kids trying to be saved on operating tables is truly sickening. Israel just shoots down rockets fired at them and no one is injured yet they retaliate and kill Palestinian children.

Israel, scurge of the ******* planet all backed by the US. If the situation was reversed and it was Palestine with all the power and bullying Israel and carrying out all those lovely illegal acts like land grabs the World would intervene and stop it. Israel literally does get away with murdering innocent people and the World sits by and lets them do it year after year.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
The pictures of Palestinian kids trying to be saved on operating tables is truly sickening. Israel just shoots down rockets fired at them and no one is injured yet they retaliate and kill Palestinian children.

Israel, scurge of the ******* planet all backed by the US. If the situation was reversed and it was Palestine with all the power and bullying Israel and carrying out all those lovely illegal acts like land grabs the World would intervene and stop it. Israel literally does get away with murdering innocent people and the World sits by and lets them do it year after year.
Surgical Strike...in a densely populated area?

Taking out two buildings occupied with journalists?

Refusing to comply with journalists who are trying to do a balanced report?

Israel you get no sympathy from the world for doing what you do. People like me give a damn about both sides but going around thinking the world is stupid and will fall for your cries of victim will not work.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
The pictures of Palestinian kids trying to be saved on operating tables is truly sickening. Israel just shoots down rockets fired at them and no one is injured yet they retaliate and kill Palestinian children.

Israel, scurge of the ******* planet all backed by the US. If the situation was reversed and it was Palestine with all the power and bullying Israel and carrying out all those lovely illegal acts like land grabs the World would intervene and stop it. Israel literally does get away with murdering innocent people and the World sits by and lets them do it year after year.
Naive.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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hamas seen to be a bunch of terrorists, israel seems to be acting like a thug, any political ideology is now just tit for tat killing
So does that mean Britain is acting like thugs then because we in iraq .Israel is protecting there country not attacking. Gaza all support hamas and want Israel gone Israel has to show force.they want to live in peace and the arab countries always cause them problems.So get your facts rightdo some research
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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I think pallies could do a lot better with a little more cash
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Naive.
And you're a **** but so what?
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
The pictures of Palestinian kids trying to be saved on operating tables is truly sickening. Israel just shoots down rockets fired at them and no one is injured yet they retaliate and kill Palestinian children.

Israel, scurge of the ******* planet all backed by the US. If the situation was reversed and it was Palestine with all the power and bullying Israel and carrying out all those lovely illegal acts like land grabs the World would intervene and stop it. Israel literally does get away with murdering innocent people and the World sits by and lets them do it year after year.
You are naive and a idiot

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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
And you're a **** but so what?
That's ok, but when you extend your thinking and understanding you'll see why what you've posted is naive.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by k9l3
You are naive
No i'm just not one for singing the praises of a 'country' that shouldn't exist and shouldn't be conducting itself in the way it does.

Illegal land grabs are just the tip of the iceberg.

Ever thought that every time Israel kills some family's children in a missile attack that those kids parents are going to want revenge for what has happened to them? There's some more Hamas supporters created in a matter of seconds. And the more missile strikes that take place the more families destroyed the more powerful Hamas becomes.

Oh and as for your edit, i'm an idiot? Take a look at yourself as your the Israeli sympathiser.

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
Ever thought that every time Israel kills some family's children in a missile attack that those kids parents are going to want revenge for what has happened to them?
And when Hamas kill an Israeli family's children, those Israeli's aren;t allowed the same feelings?
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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The UN investigated the last conflict in Gaza, and produced a damning report on Israel's actions

Including targeting of civilians and lying about using children as human shields

It did criticise the Palestinians as well - no saints in these situations
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
And when Hamas kill an Israeli family's children, those Israeli's aren;t allowed the same feelings?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Sqdtal_7w

More Israelis die from peanut allergies than Hamas rockets...
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:58 AM
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No matter ,they've a God given right to defend their patch turf and every blighter in it no matter how big it is and where they came from
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
The UN investigated the last conflict in Gaza, and produced a damning report on Israel's actions

Including targeting of civilians and lying about using children as human shields

It did criticise the Palestinians as well - no saints in these situations
On 1 April 2011, Goldstone retracted his claim that it was Israeli government policy to deliberately target citizens, saying "While the investigations published by the Israeli military and recognized in the U.N. committee's report have established the validity of some incidents that we investigated in cases involving individual soldiers, they also indicate that civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy."
http://m.washingtonpost.com/opinions...1JC_story.html

While discussing an obligation of Palestinian armed groups to protect the civilian population in Gaza, the report notes that those interviewed in Gaza appeared reluctant to speak about the presence of or conduct of hostilities by the Palestinian armed groups. The Mission does not discount that the interviewees' reluctance may have stemmed from a fear of reprisals
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/ga10883.doc.htm

That the crimes allegedly committed by Hamas were intentional goes without saying — its rockets were purposefully and indiscriminately aimed at civilian targets.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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You can selectively pick bits and pieces from the report if it makes you feel better

The broad findings are damning against Israel and are not in undispute



and have been accepted by the international community (apart from Israel and the US and ***** on the internet off course)

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
You can selectively pick bits and pieces from the report if it makes you feel better

The broad findings are damning against Israel and are not in undispute



and have been accepted by the international community (apart from Israel and the US and ***** on the internet off course)
You explicitly selected "targeting of civilians" by Israel and state above that this is not in dispute; well it is, isn't it? Retracted in fact. By the author.

Just noticed "not in undispute". Can only assume this is Freudian.

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Palestinians 90

Israel 3

About par for the course then
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Palestinians 90

Israel 3

About par for the course then
You think they'd learn then wouldn't you?
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Name calling and slandering is not on Anon and others, I won't agree with you on that, you only make yourself look ignorant.

The last time Israel invaded gaze, over 1500 lies were lost on the Palestinian side and on the opposite a hundred plus for the Israeli's.

I do not condone the rocket fire on Israel, however when someone comes on TV trying to justify the aggressive reaction from Israel to what is a small act of terror (for now) in comparison to the invasion (and possibly expulsion of the people) of Gaza you have to wonder has the world gone mad.

So all the land grabs, the persecution, demonizing of Arab Israeli's and Palestinians, the wanton destruction of their food and income source i.e. Olive groves, restricting supplies, aid, locking up the young and beating the old, the total and utter decimation of a nation of people and their identity, when is portrayed as the correct reaction to a handful of rockets by a desperate group of people (ignorant and otherwise) do you expect the world to have any sympathy?

Saying the truce and lack of peace is the fault of the Palestinians is an outright lie when it's the Israeli government that does not want peace or at best, not accepting whats being offered (by being provocative all the time).

I still remember reading about USS Liberty and other cases like that, looking at the history of Israel as a nation and a government, they seem to have a remarkable knack for screwing with other nations and causing problems.

This is not a conspiracy, this is a fact. I am angry that after so many years people still act like cowards (on both sides), more so on the Israeli side who come on TV trying to justify their action with comments like "yeah so the fired rockets at us that..for the first time in ages caused a fatality"...all the while knowing they have utterly ruined the Palestinian people and especially the young people who have no future to look forward to and destroyed any chances of solidarity between the Israeli people and Palestinians.

Live in open prison and then talk to me about just cause....Hypocrites the lot of us

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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What does the man on the Gaza omnibus make of it all I wonder?

Does he hate Israel so much that he supports Hamas' action and accepts the likely consequences? Or does he think Hamas doesn't represent the people's view and should be replaced with a moderate group?

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by k9l3
So does that mean Britain is acting like thugs then because we in iraq .Israel is protecting there country not attacking. Gaza all support hamas and want Israel gone Israel has to show force.they want to live in peace and the arab countries always cause them problems.So get your facts rightdo some research
We are not in Iraq .
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
What does the man on the Gaza omnibus make of it all I wonder?

Does he hate Israel so much that he supports Hamas' action and accepts the likely consequences? Or does he think Hamas doesn't represent the people's view and should be replaced with a moderate group?

dl
They're pawns in a global game, but did bring Hamas to power in 2006. Have you, or has anyone for that matter, read the Hamas Charter?
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It's ok everyone, this will be over very soon.

Tony Blair has just popped up in Tel Aviv..... Praise to the Middle East Saviour.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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I wonder if I am right in thinking that it was Hamas which started the rocket firing on their own account?

I would thought that they know by now that you don't mess with the Israelis, they have demonstrated well enough in the past that they are not slow with a significant response to that sort of behaviour.

Can they be blamed for shooting back!

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It's ok everyone, this will be over very soon.

Tony Blair has just popped up in Tel Aviv..... Praise to the Middle East Saviour.
What's the point of this post?
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