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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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Yep he's done the old Jedi mind trick on you!
It's my defence against those on the Dark Side, such as yourself... seriously though, I am waiting for the iSabre to come out.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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Passbook voucher for Harvester. Worth getting just so you can shred it.

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Have a little respect man, Steve changed your world.

No, no he didn't. Trust me on this, he really didn't.

You might have bought into the various gadgetry for which he helped develop and promote, but don't assume everybody has. Big mistake. That's one massive reason why i find your infatuation with the man, the brand and the products so bewildering. He created nothing special in my eyes.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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No, no he didn't. Trust me on this, he really didn't.

You might have bought into the various gadgetry for which he helped develop and promote, but don't assume everybody has. Big mistake. That's one massive reason why i find your infatuation with the man, the brand and the products so bewildering. He created nothing special in my eyes.
You will own something that Apple has influenced. Like it or not. And I'm in no way infatuated with Apple, I just enjoy using their products and talking about them. Now, if you find that bewildering why are you a member of a Subaru web site?

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Why wouldn't i be a member of a Subaru web site, Jack?
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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And why wouldn't I choose to discuss Apple products?
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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Is this a lateral thinking riddle? Or do you think you've created an "Apple" section within Scoobynet? No clue where your logic took you with those last few posts. Not that it matters.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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And why wouldn't I choose to discuss Apple products?
There's a difference, don't mistake discussion for preaching!
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigsy
It's my defence against those on the Dark Side, such as yourself... seriously though, I am waiting for the iSabre to come out.
There's an app for that!
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
No, no he didn't. Trust me on this, he really didn't.

You might have bought into the various gadgetry for which he helped develop and promote, but don't assume everybody has. Big mistake. That's one massive reason why i find your infatuation with the man, the brand and the products so bewildering. He created nothing special in my eyes.
Ever use a USB port?
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Just for clarification, Apple did not invent the USB port, in fact were dead against it as they push Firewire instead...

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Ever use a USB port?
Are you suggesting Apple invented USB? Really?
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Tony, how do you know what Apple maps are like? Use them much? Have you noticed how the amount of data used for maps has 'improved'?

Anyhow shouldn't you be scanning the internet trying to prove me wrong about the iPhone's processor? Or maybe looking up the meaning of years.
Well ive probably had more hands on with an iphone 5 that you have and the processor does suck, its actually not that quick, you know those benchmarks you keep harping on about? Learn to read them, it shows you where the iphone gains but they bunch the lot up together, so processing power is mediocre but memory access is very good (looks to be ddr3), which is where it scores very highly.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Gigsy's gone to do a bit of Googling, please be patient, i'm sure he'll be back soon
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Are you suggesting Apple invented USB? Really?
No, but it's fair to say they played a very large part in popularising it.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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To repeat then, Steve Jobs has not influenced my life. One iota. Clever chap? Certainly. The Messiah? Absolutely not.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigsy
No, but it's fair to say they played a very large part in popularising it.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
To repeat then, Steve Jobs has not influenced my life. One iota. Clever chap? Certainly. The Messiah? Absolutely not.
Actually Tel, I think you will find that the very fact Gates had Jobs on the other side, so to speak, has had an impact, if not an influence on your life.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Actually Tel, I think you will find that the very fact Gates had Jobs on the other side, so to speak, has had an impact, if not an influence on your life.
Indeed, Apple has been very successful at making technology accessible which consequently drives improvement in competing products (and visa versa of course).
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Indeed, Apple has been very successful at making technology accessible which consequently drives improvement in competing products (and visa versa of course).
^ Which was kind of the point I was trying (badly) to make earlier
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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^ Which was kind of the point I was trying (badly) to make earlier
If you are trying to make an assertion that Apple in some way made USB more accessible, well you are greatly mistaken. Apple had to adopt PC technology because their competing firewire technology failed gain any momentum. They introduced it on their iMacs several years after it was first introduced on PCs and it continues to be developed by several well known PC companies.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
If you are trying to make an assertion that Apple in some way made USB more accessible, well you are greatly mistaken. Apple had to adopt PC technology because their competing firewire technology failed gain any momentum. They introduced it on their iMacs several years after it was first introduced on PCs and it continues to be developed by several well known PC companies.
No, I'm not denying that they were forced to adopt it. I'm just saying that using it on a machine designed for less techy users helped make it more mainstream.


(even if PCs still outsold Macs many times over)
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 09:05 PM
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Well it would have been more convincing if you had said that Apple popularised keyboardless touch screens phones and tablets instead.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Well it would have been more convincing if you had said that Apple popularised keyboardless touch screens phones and tablets instead.
Yes, but USB is easier to type and you'd have had no fun fishing!
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Best joke I've heard so far.

A man using Apple Maps walks into a Bar. Or maybe a church. Wait, it's a park...
That's very good!

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Have a little respect man, Steve changed your world.
No, he popularised some gadgetry. The Wright brothers, or Fleming, or Curie, or Pascal, those are the type of people who changed the world (hell, even Hitler!).

Long after Jobs is forgotten, those names will live on.

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigsy
No, I'm not denying that they were forced to adopt it. I'm just saying that using it on a machine designed for less techy users helped make it more mainstream.


(even if PCs still outsold Macs many times over)
I don't think I've ever used it on this forum before, but seriously
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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I don't think I've ever used it on this forum before, but seriously
Yes, seriously. Being USB only, the iMac rather twisted the arm of peripheral manufactures and made life easier for the users as all connections were the same.

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
No, he popularised some gadgetry. The Wright brothers, or Fleming, or Curie, or Pascal, those are the type of people who changed the world (hell, even Hitler!).

Long after Jobs is forgotten, those names will live on.

Geezer
Possibly, though I guess time will tell.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Some interesting points...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19834594

...not least:

"His ability to say no and keep things from shipping. Andy Grignon, who worked on the first iPhone, tells me all the time about how Jobs would kill a project or send it back for more work. He tells about how the original iPhone looked nothing like the shipping product. Jobs kept saying "no" until it was perfect."

Although, having played around with Apple maps, I quite like it (even if the actual data part of it has one or two "imperfections" )
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Yes, seriously. Being USB only, the iMac rather twisted the arm of peripheral manufactures and made life easier for the users as all connections were the same.
So according to you, a company that had barely 5% of the desktop computer market was 'twisting the arm' of the entire industry. Did you stop to consider the logic of that for even a second before you posted it?
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