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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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OK, I'll bit this once.

that's more innovation than 3 microphones used for Noise Cancelling - never had an issue on my phone with people not being able to hear me, so benefit is dubious, Sapphire Lens - no idea what this is or how it compares to other types, but my phone already takes great pictures. This is an important part of a phone for me, so will be interested to see what's available when I next need to change my phone, Single layer Touchscreen - My touch screen looks and works just great thanks. I don't know (or care) if it's single layer or not. Siri fully functional in the UK - so it was broken before? and an Alarm clock included on the iPad - woopy f***ing do.... Seriously? no
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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An alarm clock? Now you're definitely on a wind up if you're touting that as revolutionary!

The Note II works for me because the hardware overall is better and those "software gimmicks" contribute massively to the user experience. Siri or Google Now? Doesn't really make much difference either way, if we're being honest does it? Either can set your alarm, get you taxi numbers or give you directions.
All good Jay. Oh and yes, the Alarm clock addition to the iPad is easily more important to me than a battery wasting camera looking at my eyes whist I'm reading. That's a bit spooky.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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OK, I'll bit this once.
Those were just a few innovations off the cuff. My real favourite is the engineering, I'll hold off lauding it too much as I haven't held one yet, but the construction of this device is unlike any other. Good British lead innovation beats Korean every time no?
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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Panoramas are incredible.

http://imgur.com/JigpW

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Panoramas are incredible.

Yeah they are. Been taking them on my Galaxy Nexus for the last 12 months

BTW the Note 2 has noise cancellation and the touch screen can detect 1024 different levels of pressure.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Yeah they are. Been taking them on my Galaxy Nexus for the last 12 months

BTW the Note 2 has noise cancellation and the touch screen can detect 1024 different levels of pressure.
That's awesome Jay, we're both taking panorama's but you just have to see how you take them with the iPhone, I've used tons of apps before but this is automagic.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I hope nobody take me seriously, not on threads like this anyhow. I'm just shooting fish in a barrel.

But come on, a screen that doesn't dim when you're reading it, that's more innovation than 3 microphones used for Noise Cancelling, Sapphire Lens, Single layer Touchscreen. Siri fully functional in the UK and an Alarm clock included on the iPad. Seriously?
A screen that doesn't dim when you're reading it, you don't think that's useful? Siri is pants, be honest. My wife has it on her 4S, it's a joke. I'm not saying the Android version is any better (I haven't tried it), but that sort of technology on any platform is still a gimmick (thus far).

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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Go on then, how do you take them with the iPhone? I'm genuinely interested.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:34 AM
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Thanks Apple.
Good on them for including an adapter with the phone, but come on, £30???
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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A screen that doesn't dim when you're reading it, you don't think that's useful? Siri is pants, be honest. My wife has it on her 4S, it's a joke. I'm not saying the Android version is any better (I haven't tried it), but that sort of technology on any platform is still a gimmick (thus far).

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Siri's main functionality was blocked in the UK by Google. Google have been dumped now so Siri is fully up to spec. You should try it, it's not like the dark ages any more.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
Good on them for including an adapter with the phone, but come on, £30???
It's full of those silicon chips though.

Panorama's are one button then a sweep left or right, no stopping, just like recording a video but it's taking pictures in portrait and stitching them together perfectly as it goes.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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I'm going to get one of these

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As you know, it's all about the image.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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Nice little roundup on how the change to the 9 pin connector will affect you

http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipad-iphon...pe=allchandate
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Panorama's are one button then a sweep left or right, no stopping, just like recording a video but it's taking pictures in portrait and stitching them together perfectly as it goes.
Exactly the same procedure as my HTC One X then (although I'm not sure if that's the Android or HTC software though).
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MDS_WRX
Exactly the same procedure as my HTC One X then (although I'm not sure if that's the Android or HTC software though).
Here's the difference

"Continue moving HTC One X as smoothly as you can. The camera automatically captures five consecutive frames."

The iPhone captures a lot more than 5 frames, is in Portrait mode and it's one continuous smooth scroll left or right.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MDS_WRX
Exactly the same procedure as my HTC One X then (although I'm not sure if that's the Android or HTC software though).
Same as the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S3 also.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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warnign sheep alert!!!

http://www.redmondpie.com/citizens-s...ference-video/
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Panorama's are one button then a sweep left or right, no stopping, just like recording a video but it's taking pictures in portrait and stitching them together perfectly as it goes.
Nothing new there then Jack. Wife's crappy Sony camera can do that. My cheap rubbish 2 year old Samsung Nexus S phone does it with one button press then pan.

Really, is there anything new in the new iPhone? I'm not seeing it. And still no NFC = daft.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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No NFC thank goodness, it hasn't been adopted... come on tell me where you use it, and it's a security nightmare. Look into Passbook.

Your Camera's do not work in the same way as the iPhone Panorama's, I'm sure they're awesome and you take a lot of them, but...

Here's the iPhone
And the One X

You might notice how long it takes the One X to stitch just five photos!!! How can the iPhone do it so much better so much quicker with so many more photos... and that's the 4s.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Now I look at those videos, it's not very good at all! I'm not havng a go at Apple, but panorama apps/cameras in general.

It still can't sort out the alignment properly. Have you see how much a head for proper panoramas head is? Until someone does something far cleverer than this, panoramas on these devices is gonna be crappy. Ok for Facebook or a bit of a laugh, but that's it.

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
No NFC thank goodness, it hasn't been adopted... come on tell me where you use it, and it's a security nightmare. Look into Passbook.

Your Camera's do not work in the same way as the iPhone Panorama's, I'm sure they're awesome and you take a lot of them, but...

Here's the iPhone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xMywdzZV8Q
And the One X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gAT9nS6K1k

You might notice how long it takes the One X to stitch just five photos!!! How can the iPhone do it so much better so much quicker with so many more photos... and that's the 4s.
You notice that the first video does not show you how long it takes the iPhone to stitch the photos? It cuts to a completed panorama.

And I have an App with takes a panorama in a similar way by just rotating the phone, and it works very quick, so this "new" iPhone function is not really that new.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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Trust me, it's way better than anything before it.... and it's instant.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Now I look at those videos, it's not very good at all! I'm not havng a go at Apple, but panorama apps/cameras in general.

It still can't sort out the alignment properly. Have you see how much a head for proper panoramas head is? Until someone does something far cleverer than this, panoramas on these devices is gonna be crappy. Ok for Facebook or a bit of a laugh, but that's it.

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Did you not see the one I took this morning, fantastic even in crappy light and compressed by imgur.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Here's the difference

"Continue moving HTC One X as smoothly as you can. The camera automatically captures five consecutive frames."

The iPhone captures a lot more than 5 frames, is in Portrait mode and it's one continuous smooth scroll left or right.
So more than 5 frames, does that mean that the photo will be wider, or of better quality? Or both?

As for the Portrait mode, again is that better? worse? I would have thought that for a panoramic, that Landscape mode is the more natural choice?

The HTC is one consecutive scroll too, so don't think that is a difference unless I'm misunderstanding what you meant?
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MDS_WRX
So more than 5 frames, does that mean that the photo will be wider, or of better quality? Or both?

As for the Portrait mode, again is that better? worse? I would have thought that for a panoramic, that Landscape mode is the more natural choice?

The HTC is one consecutive scroll too, so don't think that is a difference unless I'm misunderstanding what you meant?
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The iPhone image is 28mb. Multiple portrait shots are way better than 5 Landscape. Come on, just one of you fandroids say something nice about Apple, it won't hurt.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Panoramas are normally taken in portrait mode so you get a good "slice" for each frame and minimize the distortions.
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
Panoramas are normally taken in portrait mode so you get a good "slice" for each frame and minimize the distortions.
Tell that to HTC.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Now I look at those videos, it's not very good at all! I'm not havng a go at Apple, but panorama apps/cameras in general.

It still can't sort out the alignment properly. Have you see how much a head for proper panoramas head is? Until someone does something far cleverer than this, panoramas on these devices is gonna be crappy. Ok for Facebook or a bit of a laugh, but that's it.

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I think that's the general feeling for all phones even Macworld say that about the iPhone 5:
We like the idea of being able to take panorama shots with the iPhone 5. Unfortunately when we tried there was some sort of interference appearing in the shot. The Apple representative with us claimed that it was the first time he had seen it and proceeded to demonstrate Panoramas. When taking a Panorama shot the user is guided to keep the camera straight, there is a box that appears in the middle of the phone containing an arrow and a line. You aim to keep the arrow on the line, its a simple and intuitive way to train users to keep the phone straight. The process wasn't intuiitive enough for me, even before encountering the problem with interference, I began by holding the iPhone in landscape, before being told to take the panorama in portrait, as the Apple rep explained: "That way we get a wider shot from top to bottom". The finished product was good, although there was obvious warping, but we get the impression that it's supposed to be fun, rather than accurate.
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