Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

9/12 Apple Day

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 08:27 AM
  #271  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

alot of average press on it, seems to be a bit of a flop compared to most apple product reviews, seems to be even the fan boys are struggling to argue the positives about it.

Interesting how apple have actualy managed to get it to work with the UK 4G network though, shame by the time 4G is up and running it will be the launch of the iphone 7 lol
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 08:31 AM
  #272  
Gear Head's Avatar
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Default

What were people expecting from the 5? Apple always take what they had an try and improve it, they never launch a completely new model for fear of scaring off loyal customers.
At the end of the day, all of these smart phones are phones that can go on the internet, take good pictures and play some music.
I am not an Apple fan but I actually think the new iPhone looks quite smart with the glass and aluminium construction. Speed wise, they are all much of a muchness these days.

Will I be upgrading to an iPhone 5 next year? No.
Am I looking forward to see other manufacturers follow suit with the design materials and including 4g? Oh yes.

Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 09:25 AM
  #273  
P1Fanatic's Avatar
P1Fanatic
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,387
Likes: 0
From: Arborfield, Berkshire
Default

Had a look at an S3 yesterday. No doubt it's slick but build quality is similar to my lowest spec kindle and the size is ok if you carry a handbag/manbag

My contracts been up since May. Will wait and see what tariffs are on offer. Fancy a move to Voda but historically they have been on the pricey side and they only seem to offer 12 or 24 mth contracts when 18 is the happy median for me. The fact I can sell my 4 and cover the handset price of a 5 makes upgrading a no brained for me.

The way some of the people talk on here about phones & specs you would think they were buying a car not a mobile.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 09:28 AM
  #274  
Gear Head's Avatar
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Default

Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
Had a look at an S3 yesterday. No doubt it's slick but build quality is similar to my lowest spec kindle and the size is ok if you carry a handbag/manbag

My contracts been up since May. Will wait and see what tariffs are on offer. Fancy a move to Voda but historically they have been on the pricey side and they only seem to offer 12 or 24 mth contracts when 18 is the happy median for me. The fact I can sell my 4 and cover the handset price of a 5 makes upgrading a no brained for me.

The way some of the people talk on here about phones & specs you would think they were buying a car not a mobile.
But owning a better phone makes you a better person.
Don't you know that?


Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 09:37 AM
  #275  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
Had a look at an S3 yesterday. No doubt it's slick but build quality is similar to my lowest spec kindle and the size is ok if you carry a handbag/manbag

My contracts been up since May. Will wait and see what tariffs are on offer. Fancy a move to Voda but historically they have been on the pricey side and they only seem to offer 12 or 24 mth contracts when 18 is the happy median for me. The fact I can sell my 4 and cover the handset price of a 5 makes upgrading a no brained for me.

The way some of the people talk on here about phones & specs you would think they were buying a car not a mobile.

ignoring handset, Vodaphone will be most expensive (prob £1-5 more a month) but I came back to vodaphone after having enough with Orange's sheet network. I find it best signal and most reliable
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 09:39 AM
  #276  
Gear Head's Avatar
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Default

Originally Posted by Tidgy
ignoring handset, Vodaphone will be most expensive (prob £1-5 more a month) but I came back to vodaphone after having enough with Orange's sheet network. I find it best signal and most reliable
Where are you Tidgy?
I have found the complete opposite with Vodaphone down here in Kent.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 09:55 AM
  #277  
Neanderthal's Avatar
Neanderthal
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 6,850
Likes: 0
From: Northampton, Xbox GamerTag - Neanderthal1976
Default

£25 for the adapter as well?
I'm tempted to go for something different and get one of the new Nokia's.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 09:56 AM
  #278  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by Gear Head
Where are you Tidgy?
I have found the complete opposite with Vodaphone down here in Kent.
nottingham, my guess is as usual with mobile coverage it varys depending where you are and what handset (been to epsom and bristol inside buildings as well), but i've not had signal issues since i went onto voda and HTC titan handset.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 10:27 AM
  #279  
JackClark's Avatar
JackClark
Thread Starter
Scooby Senior
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 20,896
Likes: 53
From: Overdosed on LCD
Default

Originally Posted by Neanderthal
£25 for the adapter as well?
I'm tempted to go for something different and get one of the new Nokia's.
Risky move. Nice hardware but the software track record is abysmal.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 11:35 AM
  #280  
davyboy's Avatar
davyboy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 13,488
Likes: 0
From: Some country and western
Default

I guess I'll have to get one for free* and make a judgement. Right now the S3 is the best phone on the market, this coming from someone who like apple products.

* Proper free, not 25 a month for 2 years free.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 11:45 AM
  #281  
P1Fanatic's Avatar
P1Fanatic
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,387
Likes: 0
From: Arborfield, Berkshire
Default

How would you get an S3 for free davyboy?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 11:45 AM
  #282  
Cannon Fodder's Avatar
Cannon Fodder
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (100)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 13,684
Likes: 0
From: Planet Earth
Default

I really wanted this to be a big leap forward from the 4S, it would seem to be more of a slight skip.

I got rid of my 4S, and went for a Galaxy S3 with the thought that if the iPhone 5 was worth it that I would buy one on release but I can't see much to make me want to go back to an iPhone at all.

I suppose you could call it a slight evolution rather than anything else, very disappointing to say the least. I could have been classed as a 'fanboi' at one time and would happily have gone back to an iPhone if the 5 had been as good as some of the rumours suggested, oh well let's hope the 5S or the 6 are better out of the box.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 11:50 AM
  #283  
jonc's Avatar
jonc
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,647
Likes: 22
Default

Originally Posted by Neanderthal
£25 for the adapter as well?
I'm tempted to go for something different and get one of the new Nokia's.
The iPhone 5 offers nothing more other than it's another mechanism for Apple to relieve you of your hard earned cash. There is nothing to see, move along, move along....
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 11:57 AM
  #284  
JackClark's Avatar
JackClark
Thread Starter
Scooby Senior
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 20,896
Likes: 53
From: Overdosed on LCD
Default

I'm having a little trouble understanding how people see the 5 as such a small step forward from the 4, even the 4S. It has a whole new Chip for processing and graphics, 2x faster. It has a lot more connectivity options, including 5GHz and LTE. It's construction is outstanding, using unique materials. It's the thinnest smartphone available. It's lighter. You can still use it with one hand.

Suggesting that the S3 is better just seems completely ridiculous other than it has a bigger screen.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:09 PM
  #285  
SwissTony's Avatar
SwissTony
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 28,233
Likes: 14
From: In the Doghouse
Default

All the sniping aside, I do have a serious query regarding the new iPhone 5 and LTE/4G. It really is about providers.

Been with 02 since the dawn of time and when I had a lot more hair

Anyway every 2 years I have upgraded the phone with them and started another contract. Their customer service is very good especially as a select customer but the signal at home is shocking. Many a conversation is had on the front driveway as that is the only place to get a bloody signal.
Anyway like the idea of the LTE/4G but obviously that would mean either waiting for 02 to stop arguing with OFCOM and roll it out on their networks, probably next year ? or to jump ship and sign up with EE.

Thing is I am on a nice 12 month contract with 02 and I doubt EE could match it but I would be classed as a new customer (who as we know get all the good deals)

So is the LTE/4G side enough incentive to ditch a network that I have been with for ages ?

Thoughts ?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:23 PM
  #286  
jonc's Avatar
jonc
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,647
Likes: 22
Default

You can get signal boosters/repeaters. Vodafone do one for example (http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal) but not sure if just boosts Vodafone signal or all GSM900/3G signal. But there are third parties that sell similar mobile boosters.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:33 PM
  #287  
P1Fanatic's Avatar
P1Fanatic
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,387
Likes: 0
From: Arborfield, Berkshire
Default

Swiss I am in the same boat as you. I stuck with O2 as the wife worked for them up until about 2 weeks ago so I got friends & family 30% of monthly tariff and still do. Will only lose it I change contract. They do have good customer services and UK based. I called up asking about call charges in Oz before a holiday and the chap ran me through everything like disabling vm to save me any unwanted charges – was a breath of fresh air. But I have the same poor reception at home. Not sure Vodafone is much better. My work phone is voda and reception seems ok but it’s an old Nokia and larger sim so can’t just stick it in my iphone 4 and test it.

I don’t think you will see much if any difference between existing customer offerings on tariff and handset prices compared to new customers. At least with O2 they offer existing customers things like early upgrades etc.

I don’t think 4G is worth jumping ship for even with EE talking about getting out before Xmas I am dubious about that and doubt anything serious will happen in the next 12 months. Half the time I haven’t got a 3G connection tbh.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:35 PM
  #288  
JackClark's Avatar
JackClark
Thread Starter
Scooby Senior
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 20,896
Likes: 53
From: Overdosed on LCD
Default

I doubt LTE will solve your problems, unless you live in a select city.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:47 PM
  #289  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by JackClark
I'm having a little trouble understanding how people see the 5 as such a small step forward from the 4, even the 4S. It has a whole new Chip for processing and graphics, 2x faster. It has a lot more connectivity options, including 5GHz and LTE. It's construction is outstanding, using unique materials. It's the thinnest smartphone available. It's lighter. You can still use it with one hand.

Suggesting that the S3 is better just seems completely ridiculous other than it has a bigger screen.

fan boy arrived to argue then,,,, lol

Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:56 PM
  #290  
TonyBurns's Avatar
TonyBurns
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 2
From: 1600cc's of twin scroll fun :)
Default

Originally Posted by SwissTony
Anyway like the idea of the LTE/4G but obviously that would mean either waiting for 02 to stop arguing with OFCOM and roll it out on their networks, probably next year?
This isnt the reason they are arguing, the argument is giving the biggest network in the UK the go ahead to use bandwidth for 4G whilst the rest have to wait for the spectrum auction, its called competition law and the reason all the other networks are up in arms about it as its literally breaking them as no one else has that spectrum available except EE.
4G would have been here before the Olympics if it wasnt for OFCOM dragging their feet (note Government).

Tony
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:58 PM
  #291  
SwissTony's Avatar
SwissTony
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 28,233
Likes: 14
From: In the Doghouse
Default

Originally Posted by jonc
You can get signal boosters/repeaters. Vodafone do one for example (http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal) but not sure if just boosts Vodafone signal or all GSM900/3G signal. But there are third parties that sell similar mobile boosters.
I did look into these a while back (Femcell or similar) but 02 do not do them. Vodafone is the only company that does

Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
Swiss I am in the same boat as you. I stuck with O2 as the wife worked for them up until about 2 weeks ago so I got friends & family 30% of monthly tariff and still do. Will only lose it I change contract. They do have good customer services and UK based. I called up asking about call charges in Oz before a holiday and the chap ran me through everything like disabling vm to save me any unwanted charges – was a breath of fresh air. But I have the same poor reception at home. Not sure Vodafone is much better. My work phone is voda and reception seems ok but it’s an old Nokia and larger sim so can’t just stick it in my iphone 4 and test it.

I don’t think you will see much if any difference between existing customer offerings on tariff and handset prices compared to new customers. At least with O2 they offer existing customers things like early upgrades etc.

I don’t think 4G is worth jumping ship for even with EE talking about getting out before Xmas I am dubious about that and doubt anything serious will happen in the next 12 months. Half the time I haven’t got a 3G connection tbh.
Thanks for that, something to consider. It is a toss up between new handset which I am eligible for that has some whizzy nice new features but retains the same ****e signal at home or move to a provider that has a better signal at home but cant offer me the same deal/contract.

Originally Posted by JackClark
I doubt LTE will solve your problems, unless you live in a select city.
Live in Bucks, work in London. So I get the speed when at work but nothing at home. Not a problem because I have fibre at home so wifi speed is good. It is the call quality at home that gets on my nerves
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:01 PM
  #292  
TonyBurns's Avatar
TonyBurns
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 2
From: 1600cc's of twin scroll fun :)
Default

Originally Posted by Gear Head
Am I looking forward to see other manufacturers follow suit with the design materials and including 4g? Oh yes.

Do you understand the reason other manufacturers use plastics instead of metals as cases?
Its very simple, its not cost, its because plastics are more shock resistant than metal, drop a metal cased phone and it normally breaks, drop a plastic cased one and its normally ok, so it may look good, just dont drop it (and many other phones are LTE complient and have been for nearly 2 years in some cases )

The iphone 5 is pretty poor considering what else is out there (its more of a backwards step than forwards, puts apple about 1.5-2 years behind the competition, especially in the innovation category).

Tony
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:06 PM
  #293  
Gigsy's Avatar
Gigsy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 849
Likes: 0
From: Wantage, UK
Default

Seriously, ten pages?

Want an iPhone. Buy and iPhone. Want a Samsung. Buy a Samsung. Then STFU.

99.999% of the people that use either don't use them to the full extent of their capabilities anyway so all the ***** waving about "my screen is bigger than your screen" is all a bit effing pointless IMHO.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:07 PM
  #294  
P1Fanatic's Avatar
P1Fanatic
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,387
Likes: 0
From: Arborfield, Berkshire
Default

Originally Posted by Tidgy
fan boy arrived to argue then,,,, lol

The S3 handset prices differs per contract at least on O2 & Voda so not sure why its made out to be 1 set price.

Nothing else on there makes it stand out for me so as has been stated its more down to personal aesthetic & handling preference.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:07 PM
  #295  
JackClark's Avatar
JackClark
Thread Starter
Scooby Senior
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 20,896
Likes: 53
From: Overdosed on LCD
Default

Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Do you understand the reason other manufacturers use plastics instead of metals as cases?
Its very simple, its not cost, its because plastics are more shock resistant than metal, drop a metal cased phone and it normally breaks, drop a plastic cased one and its normally ok, so it may look good, just dont drop it (and many other phones are LTE complient and have been for nearly 2 years in some cases )

The iphone 5 is pretty poor considering what else is out there (its more of a backwards step than forwards, puts apple about 1.5-2 years behind the competition, especially in the innovation category).

Tony
What an idiot. They use plastic because it's cheap, easy and thin. How on earth you can claim that the iPhone 5 is 2 year behind the competition is unfathomable, you truly are a victim of propaganda and marketing.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:08 PM
  #296  
P1Fanatic's Avatar
P1Fanatic
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,387
Likes: 0
From: Arborfield, Berkshire
Default

Originally Posted by Gigsy
Seriously, ten pages?

Want an iPhone. Buy and iPhone. Want a Samsung. Buy a Samsung. Then STFU.
You just edged us another post towards 11 pages
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:09 PM
  #297  
Wurzel's Avatar
Wurzel
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 9,708
Likes: 73
From: Wildberg, Germany/Reading, UK
Cool

Originally Posted by Gigsy
Seriously, ten pages?

Want an iPhone. Buy and iPhone. Want a Samsung. Buy a Samsung. Then STFU.

99.999% of the people that use either don't use them to the full extent of their capabilities anyway so all the ***** waving about "my screen is bigger than your screen" is all a bit effing pointless IMHO.
STFU??

Samsung's
Truely
Fcucking
Un-Beatable
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:11 PM
  #298  
Wurzel's Avatar
Wurzel
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 9,708
Likes: 73
From: Wildberg, Germany/Reading, UK
Cool

Originally Posted by JackClark
you truly are a victim of propaganda and marketing.
Says the Apple Fanboy! Still trying to defend the iPhone
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:14 PM
  #299  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
The S3 handset prices differs per contract at least on O2 & Voda so not sure why its made out to be 1 set price.

Nothing else on there makes it stand out for me so as has been stated its more down to personal aesthetic & handling preference.
US offline price it think, although as you say varies so can take that with a pinch of salt, its mroe the tech specs that are of interest on that.

So much for jack the fanboys claims lol
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2012 | 01:14 PM
  #300  
Gear Head's Avatar
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Default

Originally Posted by JackClark
What an idiot. They use plastic because it's cheap, easy and thin. How on earth you can claim that the iPhone 5 is 2 year behind the competition is unfathomable, you truly are a victim of propaganda and marketing.
So we are calling people names now are we Jack?
How mature of you.

Last edited by Gear Head; Sep 13, 2012 at 01:28 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:24 AM.