Busterbulldog

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..dont forget to scroll down...all Subaru range torque figures..

http://www.carinf.com/en/7690918636.html

pslewis

Are you saying you have a Cosworth version?

T5NYW

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He has and a nice red one IIRC

Tony

73henny

Think you'll find the hatch STi is fitted with the latest piece of cutting edge equipment - a rear wiper. Does your Honda? . Still no snapped neck Lewis? Have you taken it back to the dealer yet to complain? Also, how does it feel to have bought an obsolete engine - you know, the one that they had to flog off cheap as it was so dirty it wasn't fit for sale? Not only that, but an engine that despite being of a bigger displacement manages to be less powerful and have less neck snapping torque than the much smoother, cleaner, oh and fit for sale Subaru boxer diesel. That must really grate against you, doesn't it lewis?. It must really annoy you that your precious Honda engine can't match the Subaru diesel, doesn't it lewis? Doesn't it?

Busterbulldog

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yes sir I do....im sure you will abuse it

pslewis

OMG ... the poor soul .......

Subaru rang me and offered me one - I thought it would be an unwise investment ... I was right - **** loads of money lost there

Nice car ....... but starship depreciation.

I hope it's on lease?

Busterbulldog

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Good grief you almost said something nice there...the depreciation isnt a concern,I bought it coz I liked it...investment...I have houses for that...they depreciated more the the Scooby ever will..one life live it

pslewis

I've got assets ... houses will generally be worth the same over time (or go up) ... but a Cosworth Impreza?

Like I said, wonderful car and I'm envious that you are willing to suffer such a loss ... nice one

Busterbulldog

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Its all good fun...keeping on the subject of torque...heres some cars with Less torque than mine..
Dodge Challenger R/T Automatic (2008) 539 Nm
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 (2008) 539 Nm
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 E.Gear (2008) 539 Nm
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 Spyder (2008) 539 Nm
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 Spyder E.Gear (2008) 539 Nm
Mercedes-Benz GLK 320 CDI 4MATIC (2008) 539 Nm
Ferrari 458 Italia (2009) 539 Nm

pslewis

I've just watched an interesting video where the Cosworth took on the old MK1's such as the RB5, P1 and 22B.

The Cosworth was in third place until the speed hit 120 MPH .... only the RB5 was slower

Maybe raw power isn't what it's all about after all?

pslewis

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/subaru/...reza-sti-cs400

73henny

Can't bring yourself to respond lewis? Hurt too much does it, the truth?. Or perhaps your wandering around your car looking for its rear wiper? Or maybe your neck has finally snapped?

Busterbulldog

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3 out of 5...http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/civic

Cannon Fodder

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Pete, why don't you shuffle off to a Civic forum - oh no you can't because you were banned.

Quite frankly a lot of people are sick to the back teeth of your trolling, the same old rubbish rehashed so you can attempt to mock those with more taste and disposable income than you.

We get that you don't want an Impreza as you won't pay the premium for a performance car instead you attempt to compare a mid range (at best) soot chucker, that even the manufacturer has discontinued as the engine can't meet the latest emission standards.

pslewis

That is the 9th generation - mine is the 8th .....

Busterbulldog

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say no more ...thats progress for us all

pslewis

It's a friendly discussion, with a fair bit of banter thrown in ....... it has run to 10 pages and over 4,000 views.

Maybe, rather than coming on a thread to slag me off, YOU could start a thread with as much appeal for the masses?? If you can't then I suggest you go look elsewhere for your kicks?

Cannon Fodder

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Do you really want me to post links to some other similar threads you've posted?

You really need to get some new material rather than being a one trick pony...

chocolate_o_brian

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It didn't, as it was a my99-00 estate so had 4 pots as standard, as my early my99 S-plate wagon does

honeybadger

Pete, why do you mention a Subaru has only 262nm on the wheels, when you seem to quote your car's flywheel figure. That's not fair.
As well as moaning about the price of a STI, but quoting a WRX's torque figure. Not fair once again.
As an engineer you should know that a diesel has very tall gearing to compensate for it's inability to rev. If you go and do the math you will find this tall gearing effectively brings down the torque figure that reaches the wheels, by quite a bit.
And I'm not bringing diesels down. I own one, but if you want to argue, do it fairly.
Maybe you ARE just taking the **** out of us, but then that would mean you're taking the **** out of your own red Honda?
Buster has an awesome car, at least you half conceded that.

Just argue fair man, else your reasoning counts for nothing.

pslewis

I'm confused ... why does it bother you so much what I say or do?

Don't you think that's a bit odd? And says much more about you than me?

pslewis

honeybadger .... as an engineer I also know that pushing the power through 4 wheels drains the stated power hugely.

The losses travelling the length of the car, through another Diff, out to the wheels through the CV joints ....... that drains so much power that you get grip but sacrifice speed - it's at this moment that a 2 wheel drive, massively torqued diesel comes past.

ALi-B

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The new M135i hatchback retails at £29995

silky 3.0 6pot engine, plus turbo. 320bhp, 332lb/ft in a 1425kg chassis and claimed 35.5mpg. And option of Xdrive (AWD), (although not fully confirmed for the RHD spec).

And to top it off: Supplied as standard with styling as ugly as a typical Impreza

Sorry International Motors/Subaru...£27K for STi that depreciates faster than it acelerates. I'd rather pay the extra £3K and have something a bit more special. A Subaru should not be priced this close to the RRP of a top of the range performance BMW.

That new Hyundai Turbo 3 door thing is priced at £22.5K aim the STi at around that figure and I'd think you may shift a few.

pslewis

If it was at a RRP of £22,000 - with haggling space down to £20,000 .... then, I agree with you 100%, they WOULD start selling and building a fan base again.

£33,000 RRP is simply madness .... £6,000 OFF to £27,000 still isn't going to secure Icon status once more.

Cannon Fodder

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It doesn't bother me one bit in the slightest, but you mock others for buying an Impreza saloon, whilst owning what can be best described as a mediocre car at best.

We get that you don't like the price of the Impreza, we have heard it so many times before I am beginning to think I am stuck in some kind of Groundhog Day type event.

As for being odd, I am not the member who rehashes the same old argument every couple of months, time has moved on and so has the Impreza.

honeybadger

LOL !!

f1_fan

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It takes more than price to create an icon. Subaru had one and let it slip away in 2007 with the introduction of that wonderful performer and looker.... the hideous hatch.

Never mind, those of us who have moved on to pastures new can look back and know we were there when the Impreza was a true icon, the 'Johnny Come Lately's on this thread are just sore they missed the boat.

Oh and Cannon ******.... as Pete says when you can generate a 10 pager come back and talk to us until then do one

ALi-B

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I was thinking around £23K which puts it eye to eye with the OTR price of a new Focus ST. In terms of quality and badge appeal, this is the marque they should aim to match or undercut. Aferall, I originally came to Subaru from a Ford.

The problem now as a older ex-Subaru customer, I and many others know that the UK spec STi isn't as good as the JDM one. Yet the UK one is priced higher. I mean, does it even have a twin scroll turbo? The main reason why I moved away from turbo 4pots is because I got bored of the turbo lag and poor day-to-day tractability because of the inferior sub-3000rpm performance (a 1500rpm to 7000rpm powerband is what I want).

Cannon Fodder

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f1_fan, why don't you 'do one', go back to NSR and try and lord it over everyone else with your massive intellect and bleeding heart.

I have quite a few threads over ten pages contribued to by enthusiasts and definitely not trollfests, if you want to search my threads but they might not be of interest to you or PSL as they are about modifications carried out to my Impreza - something that clearly you or PSL have no knowledge of.

Go back to dreaming about the days when your UK 2000 turbo was king of the road. As I have stated before times have moved on, live in yesteryear if it brings you some comfort but for the rest of us we are quite happy in the present.

The Trooper 1815

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https://www.scoobynet.com/wales-26/9...my-spec-c.html

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