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12 July 2012, 11:31 AM
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12 July 2012, 11:58 AM
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I think you'll struggle to find a link between Greece's current malaise with the origins of the Olympic, although I'm sure you'll give a good go
12 July 2012, 01:23 PM
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If the modern Olympics was about sport then I for one would be right behind it, but it isn't.
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12 July 2012, 05:42 PM
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Just imagine what all the money spent on the Olympics could have done to stimulate the economy, provide training for young people, new housing etc. Makes you think really!!!
12 July 2012, 05:45 PM
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You'd also struggle to find a link between the original olympics and the farce that is the current Corporation-run anti-competitive day-out for the biggest companies of the world, aka the 'Olympics'.
If the modern Olympics was about sport then I for one would be right behind it, but it isn't.
If the modern Olympics was about sport then I for one would be right behind it, but it isn't.
Presumably you are opposed to any sporting or music event then? They all seem to have major corporate sponsors don't they?
Personally I cannot wait, I'm taking my son and my dad for a day at the games, I truly once in a lifetime experience. I'm not going to let the moaning minority put a downer on it.
12 July 2012, 06:09 PM
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Well I guess that all us poor corporate ****** who've bought tickets to the games see it differently to you.
Presumably you are opposed to any sporting or music event then? They all seem to have major corporate sponsors don't they?
Personally I cannot wait, I'm taking my son and my dad for a day at the games, I truly once in a lifetime experience. I'm not going to let the moaning minority put a downer on it.
Presumably you are opposed to any sporting or music event then? They all seem to have major corporate sponsors don't they?
Personally I cannot wait, I'm taking my son and my dad for a day at the games, I truly once in a lifetime experience. I'm not going to let the moaning minority put a downer on it.
12 July 2012, 10:14 PM
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Exactly, i mean they would never be able to close a major motorway for several hours, insist that a coach parks on the hard shoulder, demand the backup of over a dozen fire engines, point live weapons at innocent members of the public, force then to sit on the ground without talking after their possessions were confiscated, cause massive congestion on surrounding roads and generally amaze the public on just how much they can **** them off - all because some unidentified person saw something that they thought was a bit weird. 
Scrutiny - they will be allowed to DPI our most intimate communications without oversight next
Pah,
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Scrutiny - they will be allowed to DPI our most intimate communications without oversight next
Pah,
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13 July 2012, 10:10 AM
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13 July 2012, 10:15 AM
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Of course not. I'd quite happily part with my money in order to see a band or football game. I know for example that Heineken is the only beer available at Champions League games.
However, at a Champions League game I don't have to pay for executives and MPs premium ticket packages; for corrupt IOC officials to demand the closure of the majority of the transport network for London, thereby disrupting millions for the benefit of a few thousand, so that they can get to and from the olympics from their hotels that are nowhere near east London; for ill-advised torch relays where money gets you a place rather than merit; for bribes to be paid to transport staff who are holding London to ransom to do their jobs they are lucky to have...
However, at a Champions League game I don't have to pay for executives and MPs premium ticket packages; for corrupt IOC officials to demand the closure of the majority of the transport network for London, thereby disrupting millions for the benefit of a few thousand, so that they can get to and from the olympics from their hotels that are nowhere near east London; for ill-advised torch relays where money gets you a place rather than merit; for bribes to be paid to transport staff who are holding London to ransom to do their jobs they are lucky to have...
13 July 2012, 03:59 PM
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There was the bloke who was firing a shotgun out of a bedroom window but then decided to surrender. He stood at the window holding the gun with one hand and not aimed at anyone in such a way that he could not fire it, so they shot him dead!
There was also the man minding his own business walking down the road with a chair leg in a cloth bag in such a way that it was not a threat to anyone, so the armed coppers killed him too!
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There was also the man minding his own business walking down the road with a chair leg in a cloth bag in such a way that it was not a threat to anyone, so the armed coppers killed him too!
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13 July 2012, 05:10 PM
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The r Coroner's Court jury found the actions of the officers were lawful, proportionate and reasonable. what your fantasy statement above suggests is something far more sinister.
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13 July 2012, 06:31 PM
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There was the bloke who was firing a shotgun out of a bedroom window but then decided to surrender. He stood at the window holding the gun with one hand and not aimed at anyone in such a way that he could not fire it, so they shot him dead!
There was also the man minding his own business walking down the road with a chair leg in a cloth bag in such a way that it was not a threat to anyone, so the armed coppers killed him too!
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There was also the man minding his own business walking down the road with a chair leg in a cloth bag in such a way that it was not a threat to anyone, so the armed coppers killed him too!
Les
the first example you quote the guy BLATANTLY points the rifle out the window - check any footage you like - it's out there
the second example the guy was pissed, didnt respond well to instructions and the police had been misinformed that the chap was carrying a shotgun - when he lifted up the table leg and pointed it at the armed police they took appropriate action given the situation
If you think that the armed police maliciously intended to take either of these lives then you're not worth continuing a conversation with
13 July 2012, 07:11 PM
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I don't recall the incident. Was the table leg inside a bag or disguised in some way?
13 July 2012, 09:16 PM
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SHot for being an unarmed Brazilian, shot for having a table leg and no punishments, it would appear that the Police in this country can kill when they like and apparently we should give them more guns, welcome to the police state.
13 July 2012, 09:32 PM
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13 July 2012, 09:41 PM
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unfortunate incident and had he not been smashed he would have probably just put the table leg down and lay on the floor - afterwards they would have had a chuckle about it and he could have dined out on the story for years to come
13 July 2012, 09:43 PM
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yup - wrapped in a piece of cloth if I recall - he'd picked it up from having it repaired - someone at the pub thought it was a shotty and phoned the police - they arrived as he was staggering down the street pissed - he was told to the drop the "weapon" and lie on the floor - he was waving the "weapon" around until the point where he raised it at one of the officers and they couldnt wait to find out if it was really a shotgun
unfortunate incident and had he not been smashed he would have probably just put the table leg down and lay on the floor - afterwards they would have had a chuckle about it and he could have dined out on the story for years to come
unfortunate incident and had he not been smashed he would have probably just put the table leg down and lay on the floor - afterwards they would have had a chuckle about it and he could have dined out on the story for years to come
13 July 2012, 09:57 PM
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there are many links to the story of what happened
here's another quote from another source
Firearms officers Inspector Neil Sharman and Pc Kevin Fagan approached Mr Stanley - who was originally from Bellshill, near Glasgow - after a fellow drinker at the pub he was in told them he had seen an "Irishman" leaving a pub with a sawn-off shotgun in a blue plastic bag.
now, the chap liked a drink and had been in the pub most of the afternoon - the police are expecting to find someone with a shotgun - they arrive and he turns round on them - there's some grey area as to what happened next that is true - the officers say they followed procedure and had already told him to drop the weapon - other witnesses say that as he turned round he was told to drop the weapon and was then shot and yet further witnesses said that he turned round and was shot - there's also some debate over how he was "brandishing" the table leg - some witnesses reported he turned pointing it - the officer who shot him said he saw what appeared to be the wooden barrel of a shot gun - others say the leg was completely wrapped
whatever the truth is it was a tough call and to be fair if I was on a shout to a pub with a drunk man who, it's reported has a shotgun, and as I get there he turns round and points the ****ing thing at me from 15 foot i'd drop him as well
here's another quote from another source
Firearms officers Inspector Neil Sharman and Pc Kevin Fagan approached Mr Stanley - who was originally from Bellshill, near Glasgow - after a fellow drinker at the pub he was in told them he had seen an "Irishman" leaving a pub with a sawn-off shotgun in a blue plastic bag.
now, the chap liked a drink and had been in the pub most of the afternoon - the police are expecting to find someone with a shotgun - they arrive and he turns round on them - there's some grey area as to what happened next that is true - the officers say they followed procedure and had already told him to drop the weapon - other witnesses say that as he turned round he was told to drop the weapon and was then shot and yet further witnesses said that he turned round and was shot - there's also some debate over how he was "brandishing" the table leg - some witnesses reported he turned pointing it - the officer who shot him said he saw what appeared to be the wooden barrel of a shot gun - others say the leg was completely wrapped
whatever the truth is it was a tough call and to be fair if I was on a shout to a pub with a drunk man who, it's reported has a shotgun, and as I get there he turns round and points the ****ing thing at me from 15 foot i'd drop him as well
14 July 2012, 10:14 AM
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there are many links to the story of what happened
here's another quote from another source
Firearms officers Inspector Neil Sharman and Pc Kevin Fagan approached Mr Stanley - who was originally from Bellshill, near Glasgow - after a fellow drinker at the pub he was in told them he had seen an "Irishman" leaving a pub with a sawn-off shotgun in a blue plastic bag.
now, the chap liked a drink and had been in the pub most of the afternoon - the police are expecting to find someone with a shotgun - they arrive and he turns round on them - there's some grey area as to what happened next that is true - the officers say they followed procedure and had already told him to drop the weapon - other witnesses say that as he turned round he was told to drop the weapon and was then shot and yet further witnesses said that he turned round and was shot - there's also some debate over how he was "brandishing" the table leg - some witnesses reported he turned pointing it - the officer who shot him said he saw what appeared to be the wooden barrel of a shot gun - others say the leg was completely wrapped
whatever the truth is it was a tough call and to be fair if I was on a shout to a pub with a drunk man who, it's reported has a shotgun, and as I get there he turns round and points the ****ing thing at me from 15 foot i'd drop him as well
here's another quote from another source
Firearms officers Inspector Neil Sharman and Pc Kevin Fagan approached Mr Stanley - who was originally from Bellshill, near Glasgow - after a fellow drinker at the pub he was in told them he had seen an "Irishman" leaving a pub with a sawn-off shotgun in a blue plastic bag.
now, the chap liked a drink and had been in the pub most of the afternoon - the police are expecting to find someone with a shotgun - they arrive and he turns round on them - there's some grey area as to what happened next that is true - the officers say they followed procedure and had already told him to drop the weapon - other witnesses say that as he turned round he was told to drop the weapon and was then shot and yet further witnesses said that he turned round and was shot - there's also some debate over how he was "brandishing" the table leg - some witnesses reported he turned pointing it - the officer who shot him said he saw what appeared to be the wooden barrel of a shot gun - others say the leg was completely wrapped
whatever the truth is it was a tough call and to be fair if I was on a shout to a pub with a drunk man who, it's reported has a shotgun, and as I get there he turns round and points the ****ing thing at me from 15 foot i'd drop him as well
14 July 2012, 10:28 AM
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also 'Drinker Clifford Willing was standing next to him at the bar as Mr Stanley ordered a lemonade and left soon after. So does not sound like he was drunk the shot you posted seamus was typical Police propaganda and smear tactics.
15 July 2012, 04:38 PM
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I take it your referring to the shooting of mark saunders. I suggest you watch the footage. he points the shotgun at police before being fired upon, all after a protracted negotiation, having previously discharged the gun into a public area. hardly the actions of an armed unit going out looking for a kill.
The r Coroner's Court jury found the actions of the officers were lawful, proportionate and reasonable. what your fantasy statement above suggests is something far more sinister.
The r Coroner's Court jury found the actions of the officers were lawful, proportionate and reasonable. what your fantasy statement above suggests is something far more sinister.
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16 July 2012, 01:55 PM
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G4S Olympics staff failed to arrive for security work
Security going well I see
Theresa May will doubtless blame everyone but her government and the London Olympic committee. Probably the Muslims' fault
Or New Labour 
Security going well I see
Theresa May will doubtless blame everyone but her government and the London Olympic committee. Probably the Muslims' fault
Or New Labour
16 July 2012, 05:39 PM
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There was the bloke who was firing a shotgun out of a bedroom window but then decided to surrender. He stood at the window holding the gun with one hand and not aimed at anyone in such a way that he could not fire it, so they shot him dead!
There was also the man minding his own business walking down the road with a chair leg in a cloth bag in such a way that it was not a threat to anyone, so the armed coppers killed him too!
Les
There was also the man minding his own business walking down the road with a chair leg in a cloth bag in such a way that it was not a threat to anyone, so the armed coppers killed him too!
Les