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Old 08 July 2012, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ...seamus...
"commoner" vs "big-wig"!!??!!!???!!??

seriously fella you have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder

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It was a kid gently pedalling a bicycle it hardly had the makings of a terror threat and to be honest 1 guy stood in the crowd detonating a claymore type device could easy take out the torch bearer the security team and a load else besides. I don't have a chip on my shoulder I just despise the corporate Olympics, I despise the fact that terrorism ,that was largely caused by our politicians, is being used as an excuse to icreate a Police state.
Old 09 July 2012, 12:13 AM
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So - It's a clear message to the Voters / Taxpayers in the UK.
Do as you are told or get battered.

Fair enough.

Now please kick the living **** out of people who are here with the sole purpose of causing harm - and, if appropriate, stick them on the first transport out of the country.
Old 09 July 2012, 09:05 AM
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Unbelievable, if that had been the Queen or Prime Minister, you would all have been singing his praises, but because you don't support the Olympics suddenly it's way over the top and they are thugs!

His job is to protect whoever is carrying the torch (from commoner to 'big wig') and all he would have seen was someone on a bike enter from his rear left. He doesn't have to time to ascertain whether it's a young boy who is probably excited or a terrorist with C4 strapped to him.

He acted in the absolute correct manner. It's not as if they kicked the **** out of him afterwards, it's obvious once he has been tackled they realise it's just a young lad.

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Old 09 July 2012, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ...seamus...
You do realise that the whole country is currently at the security level of "SUBSTANTIAL" - meaning that there is a substantial chance of a terrorist attack?
And you do realise that it's never been anything less than substantial since they set it up? In fact they downgraded it from Critical (30 June 2007) to Severe, then Substantial (4 July), 3 days before the London bombings. It nothing else that shows us if the experts cannot predict a terrorist attack.

And I am sure a bomb in a watchers backpack 10 foot away on the pavement will cause just as much carnage as one kid 6 foot away on a bike. Do they clear the pavement?
Old 09 July 2012, 10:06 AM
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I was pretty shocked. Just a kid on a BMX cycling on a road and he gets manhandled and dumped on the floor by a police man.

I think I'll establish a 6 foot security bubble around myself today. Anyone entering will be punched in the face.
Old 09 July 2012, 10:21 AM
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Gotta watch those terrorists on bikes..........

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejDK3lYntAw
Old 09 July 2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
He doesn't have to time to ascertain whether it's a young boy who is probably excited or a terrorist with C4 strapped to him.
Of course he has.
Plus, if if was a terrorist with C4 strapped to him, then they'd only need to be standing at the side of the road
Do a better job that way too.
Old 09 July 2012, 12:47 PM
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I don't think this has anything to do with it being a bomber.

I think its more to do with preventing protesters from disrupting the event, seems people have short memories:

Old 09 July 2012, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Of course he has.
Eh? No he hasn't, what utter rubbish.

Originally Posted by urban
Plus, if if was a terrorist with C4 strapped to him, then they'd only need to be standing at the side of the road
Do a better job that way too.
Absolutely, but history shows plenty of people breaking from the crowd to assassinate when they would have stood a better chance not doing so.

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Old 09 July 2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bristol98
Gotta watch those terrorists on bikes..........

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejDK3lYntAw
Old 09 July 2012, 01:51 PM
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Terrorism is the new Global Warming. Essentially, it hardly exists at all

Trawl my posts, I made the same claim about GW in like 2002 and some 10-years later there is a growing belief/slowly becoming accepted that mans influence on GW is made up for control and money making purposes.

I'm making the same call now. In 5-10 years time "Terrorism" will be used to control and tax you to death.
Old 09 July 2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Eh? No he hasn't, what utter rubbish.
I'm not so sure about that - it was clear to see that it was only a kid.
Yes, the lad shouldn't have done what he done, but still - bit out of order.

Plus - why would a terrorist want to attack some bloke carrying a flame?
Old 09 July 2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
If social unrest is such a problem then perhaps all the money and energy ploughed into the Olympics should have been spent on something more important than letting the corporate elite find other ways to demonstrate their superiority over everyone else.
All you can do then is to write to that Coe chap and tell him about it!

I do agree however that the enormous sums of money spent on opening and closing ceremonies in an effort to outdo other countries is a shameful waste.

Les
Old 09 July 2012, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Seamus, (a)you HAVE to be a copper.....
(b) have been taken in by all the hype

(c) Are just a complete and utter tit

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Old 09 July 2012, 07:32 PM
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So the fear of protesters means everyone gets treated like a criminal unless you are some kind of Fat-cat at which point your company gets a bucket load of preferential laws made up to protect you and your brand ?
Old 09 July 2012, 07:41 PM
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I can only see the security doing their job, the guy fell over the bike with the kid it was not an imense rugby tackle or a drop kick or owt was it....
Old 10 July 2012, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by addi monster
I can only see the security doing their job, the guy fell over the bike with the kid it was not an imense rugby tackle or a drop kick or owt was it....
And what about this?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/lo...0077#embed9889
Old 10 July 2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by urban
Terrorists clearly. They were given far too much of a chance to get close to the flame and detonate a bomb and if that had happened we'd all be screaming it could have been predicted. They even touched the flame! I assume they were finger printed and put on the DNA register for life.

I say they should have been taken down with extreme prejudice. And really the officer who ushered them away should be sacked for the way he dealt with it. Scratch that, all children entering the bubble should be shot by anonymous snipers in balaclava's.
Old 10 July 2012, 11:26 AM
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In recent times it certainly appears that the police are inclined to over react to an incident. Common sense seems to be out of the window now.

At some incidents where the armed police have been called out it almost looks as though they are looking for a chance to kill someone. Its a bit of a worry I think.

Les
Old 10 July 2012, 04:55 PM
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Well he isn't carrying any explosives,that's for sure.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...c5fDRLUn5KG0wQ
Old 11 July 2012, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
So the fear of protesters means everyone gets treated like a criminal unless you are some kind of Fat-cat at which point your company gets a bucket load of preferential laws made up to protect you and your brand ?
Do you seriously believe that all the torchbearers are "corporate fat-cats"? Most of them are unsung community heroes. There are 8,000 altogether and whilst some of them are celebs and sports stars, for most of them it's a once in a lifetime opportunity and they don't want it ruined by a teenager on a BMX, a streaker, an Olympics-hating protester or an actual terrorist.
Old 11 July 2012, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
(b) have been taken in by all the hype

(c) Are just a complete and utter tit

Chip
So you just have nothing mature to say about it so resort to insults instead?

Grow up and lay off insulting people
Old 11 July 2012, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mungo
Do you seriously believe that all the torchbearers are "corporate fat-cats"? Most of them are unsung community heroes. There are 8,000 altogether and whilst some of them are celebs and sports stars, for most of them it's a once in a lifetime opportunity and they don't want it ruined by a teenager on a BMX, a streaker, an Olympics-hating protester or an actual terrorist.
Not all but far too many, when a young athlete is denied his chance so a director of some company linked with the games gets to carry the Torch it is another example of what this is really about. It is indicative of the way our population has let itself become ruled by fat cats and bankers who operate outside and above the law.
Old 12 July 2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Not all but far too many, when a young athlete is denied his chance so a director of some company linked with the games gets to carry the Torch it is another example of what this is really about. It is indicative of the way our population has let itself become ruled by fat cats and bankers who operate outside and above the law.
Do you have any evidence that this is actually happening, or is this just anti-Olympics wishful thinking?
Old 12 July 2012, 10:36 AM
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It's an over budget joke and let's just hope it's a complete failure on every level
Old 12 July 2012, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Do you have any evidence that this is actually happening, or is this just anti-Olympics wishful thinking?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...mpics-sponsors
Old 12 July 2012, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
But not everyone does no the rules
or even "know" the rules
Old 12 July 2012, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
It's an over budget joke and let's just hope it's a complete failure on every level
Sums you up, and is a very sad reflection on the way this country is heading

I dare say that back in ancient Greece there were moaners like you!
Old 12 July 2012, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
In recent times it certainly appears that the police are inclined to over react to an incident. Common sense seems to be out of the window now.

At some incidents where the armed police have been called out it almost looks as though they are looking for a chance to kill someone. Its a bit of a worry I think.

Les
F'king hell Leslie that's a ridiculous thing to say.
Normally your posts are measured in their content but that's OTT

Typical armchair warrior comment, I'd have expected something like that from the Police hating trolls that populate Scoobynet but not you.

Do you not realise exactly how much scrutiny is on Police these days.
Old 12 July 2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Sums you up, and is a very sad reflection on the way this country is heading

I dare say that back in ancient Greece there were moaners like you!
And blinkered do gooders like you... which is probably partly why Greece is fcuked now and has been for centuries


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