f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Er I wasn't ignoring it hence why I said "In reality of course the effects of the world wide ression were felt harder here because of Labour's policies"

There are many other factors as to why some countries are in a bigger mess than others and to blame Labour or the Tories for all the UK's ills is just daft!

douglasb

So Pete, did Blair have a Saturday job to pay the fees for Fettes Academy? And did Harriet Harman work in Woolies to pay the fees for St Pauls Girls' School? And is Diane Abbott (true socialist, tribune of the people, etc.) making her son work up chmineys to pay his school fees because the local bog-standard comprehensive wasn't good enough for him?

I'm sure there are many more Labourites who in public object to private education but have benefitted from it themselves.

"Do as I say - not as I do" - the Labour motto. Bunch of f'ing hypocrites.

pslewis

I said that Cameron and Osbourne are rich due to upper crust in-breeding.

I did not say that Blair had to work up the chimneys to pay for his education. Don't confuse one with the other.

Single plain fact is that Cameron and Osbourne don't have a clue about the average working man.

Leslie

I have to say that you have conveniently forgotten that your heroes managed to convert a strong economy as inherited from the Conservatives into a massive national debt with interst payments so huge that we are struggling to pay them.

They also backed off from regulating the banks as they should have done thus allowing those plonkers to be part of the world recession with their dishonest actions initiated to allow them to make their own fortunes at the country's expense!

If you are going to criticise, you should at least be fair about the way you do it!

Les

pslewis

Les ... the Tories, at no point whatsoever, stepped up and said STOP!!

Vince Cable did, but the Tories - to a man - failed to step up to the mark

ScoobyWon't

And you think that Labour would have stopped if the Conservatives had told them to?

pslewis

They could have now taken the high ground and shown that they actually knew what was going on more than Labour ...... but, no, they were complacent in their actions.

Of course, to tell the british public to stop borrowing to buy their X5's, council houses and foreign holidays wouldn't have got them elected!

Martin2005

You tell Pete to be fair, then do exactly the same as him...

In the name of balance I have to mention that Labour inherited a recovering economy from the Tories (recovering from their appalling mismanagement). Labour also inherited a record (at the time) deficit.

Les you really should examine both sides of the argument

Martin2005

Pete - I noticed that you have avoided answering the question.

You were blathering on about Labours growth policies earlier, you still haven't mention which policies you mean.

I can only assume you mean spending more and growing the deficit??

pslewis

An example .... we need Nuclear Power Stations - let's build them, hire workers, who pay tax AND make us self sufficient in energy.

Martin2005

Indeed, and if Labour had of not bottled it we would now be building them

pslewis

Let's start now then?

Martin2005

Is that a Labour policy?



Unlikely

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

NOTE TO PETE they are all the same chap makes no odds ;
answer this question truefully please ;
IF YOU WHERE RECIEVING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY MP'S ARE GETTING AND HAD NOTHING TO PAY FOR AT ALL , WOULD YOU CARE A S H I T ABOUT SOMEONE ON 20GRAND A YEAR OR ON BENEFITS ???? I DON'T think so and if anyone says they would they are a liar . thats the real problem with politics they are all in it for the money not for the people who voted them there

jonc

A bit late now, at the time Blair's energy policy was a poster campaign of building massively expensive, heavily subsidised and hugely ineffective wind farms which have blighted Britain's beautiful countryside. We had a total of 14 nuclear powerstation and some of which are coming up to retirement or have been retired. You'd have to cover every piece of green land in the UK with wind turbines to produce the equivalent power and for only 30% of the time when the wind is actually blowing. Not supprisingly a lot of councils said no to these plans. Whilst he dithered and eventually decided against renewing our nuclear energy, we now instead have to import our energy from the continent and you have the fool Blair and his cabinet to thank for that.

Bonehead

What he said!

Leslie

Yes but your heroes were in charge and they were ultimately responsible Pete!

Les

jef

iTrader: (13)

correct me if im wrong but PSL did you not just post a thread about how you thought most hadnt faired too bad in the previous poor economic climate?

and question, just how "bad" people actually had it? and your opinion was it wasnt really that bad?

GC8

Just keep RTMing the pleb and he will eventually be banned again, even if some of the moderators are fanboys.

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Best post yet...........summed up in a nutshell.....


IMHO,the tories are useless,but labour where worse.The self serving idiots got there spades out and started undermining the finances of the UK as soon as they got into power. And that idiot Gordon Brown should hang his slack jawed head in shame at some of the decisions he has made..

At least the tories have upped the base rate of tax allowance so all workers get a few extra quid,and reduced tax credits and child allowance so all the scroungers and sit at home Jeremy Kyle bottom feeders of society get less money to buy **** and cider.

Leslie

I thought you would have known by now that I always do just that!

Don't think for a moment that I am particularly impressed by the present mob.

Les