No turbohot you are not asking questions word for word, you are adding your own interpretation into your questions.

Now until you can ask a question based soley on what I have wrote, I will not continue with your questioning.

 

I noted your probable conclusion in my previous post that gays may experience internal conflict because they can't accept who they are.

I wonder if the **** sex loving heterosexuals think to themselves "why the f*ck do I like to screw a sh!thole? This isn't normal! What the **** is wrong with me??" I wonder if they go through any internal conflict, and end up being screwed up individuals.

May be not, as they come on the forums and proudly highlight their grand wish of "smashing her backdoors in" every so often.

 

LOL its okay, Jamz3k. You don't have to.

 

giving up because you know your questioning is skewed?

 

No. I don't like to trouble limited brains who register tainted pictures of others' query. Then they go ahead and project it on the one who questions. Defensive. If you have half the intelligence, ignore the skewing and answer the questions. They are there in my posts.

I said don't bother answering because if you take me as someone putting my interpretation on what you said, you might as well think that I take you as homophobic. Now, I didn't say that you are, but you can think like that, if you like.

You are unable to get through and read my posts to understand them. Hence I spared you there for your lack of ability. If you have the intelligence to spot the questions without your prejudiced, preconceived thought about them, go ahead and answer. Even if they are skewed, answer them, if you have the guts. Go on.

Here, I will put one up for you in simple English:

What did the stories of the gay people you have met involve?

Go on, answer it.

 

As you have put it simply, I will put it in a simple way you can't skew. They are none of your business.

 

Simple one even for you, are these the acts of normal people?

 

Thank you. No further questions.

 

I know Gays meet in toilets, but it isn't all and I think the internet has made that less popular, there are apps on the various phones so they can hook up without going in dirty, stinking public toliets and then getting them closed, though that sounds like a convenient excuse, to be honest there is an element in society that likes wiping **** up the wall, shooting up and vandalising them, also, I think us heteros arent blameless, cant get int he local National Trust car parks at night due to all the *******.

We are sexual creatures, some are deviant, some arent in both "Camps", whether you class homosexuality as deviancy or just what it is means it depends.

 

Jamz3k might not be a "poofter" but he's certainly a gutless wonder, reading through his pathetic posts.

 

Excellent post The only thing you forgot to point out is their pathetic defence of it just being banter making it acceptable

 

Whether in banter or else, its not acceptable at all, f1_fan. Banters of this kind are disgusting.

 

Couldn't agree more, Swati.
The bigotry in this thread, beggars belief and as I have said before, if they hate the thought of what homosexual men get up to, why do they have an obsession to try to do that very thing to wimmins or imply that have. Grow up, men. You are not big, you are not clever, you are just downright rude and nasty.
I have asked the Mods to clean up this thread, as some of the bigoted comments are sickening.

 

Good move.

 

jef, you come across as a nice bloke. There is one hell of a difference between banter and being downright offensive.
The constant referal to the date rape drug and **** sex is neither banter nor amusing. It's not acceptable. This is not a male only board.
I love a joke with the best of them and my fav word is the "f" word. It takes a lot to offend me, but lately and this thread in particular, I have been very offended and disgusted by some of the comments. Certain members need to realise, they are not remotely funny, they are obscene. They would in no way, make those type of comments to a female or homosexual, face to face.

 

 

I know, that is precisely what I mean by my comment!

Yep RTM'd it yesterday myself ... not that it has done much good!

 

Well said, Lee. Who knows if such men go through some serious internal conflict for liking the "A" thing with a female, but disliking it with a male that they could be very damaged. That's why they must behave like that. Oh, the irony. Too much filth on the name of "male bonding". If democracy allows people to play with filth in the open, it allows people to speak against it, too. There's a line to be drawn between downright filth for banter, and the banter that doesn't go to the lowest of the levels. Good that you asked mods to tidy this thread.

 

Apart from I spelt bigoted wrong Oh well.
Glad the SN wimmins are in agreement. I knew we would be You are very wise, Swati x

 

Well, I'm not the only mod on here, so it's not just up to me, but I'll put my view on the thread out there for you guys to see. Here goes......

It would be very easy to just come along and wipe away any comments that aren't very nice, or that some people take offence to. However, for one, is it really fair to just silence people because we (inc. me) don't agree with them? And how are more open minded people ever going to have a hope in making others think if we're not allowed to put our opinions out there?

Just in my personal opinion, some of the comments on here are like being back in the dark ages, but it is obviously how some people think, and if we are to challenge them thoughts, we need to be able to talk about it. People may go away and think about things, they may not, they may change their outlook, they may not, but nothing can ever move forward if people are afraid or prevented from speaking, even if some people don't like what they hear.

I am completely against homophobia, and I would like to think my contribution to the thread so far has shown what my opinion is, but that said, I feel to stop people having their say is even more likely to cause problems in the real world. When people feel they are simply not allowed to speak, for fear of offending or getting into trouble, they are more likely to become even more narrow minded and hateful in their thoughts and behaviour as they potentially see the 'different' one as the enemy instead.

I'm sorry if this isn't the response people may have wanted, and feel free to report posts, another mod may see things differently, which is fair enough.

 

i agree thats why i always say it has to be tailored to the individual circumstance

sexually agressive remarks, by and large are not acceptable where its open to public veiwng. however in an enclsed controlled enviroment which does represent my workplace its hugely amusing and tbh the more controversial the better - it has to be stated remarks in this enviroment are not representative of actual persons veiws or judgemnnts, they are soley intended for laughter generation.

and as such i agree with you, using violent or derogetary language in an eviroment that is open to veiwing from people its not intended for , eg internet forums - its not acceptible.
further to that id assume those that feel it is ok to post such remarks are not really worth aquainting with.

its not nice or funny to offend people you dont know, my point was in referance to a well established community where boundaries are already in place - eg my workplace, where literally nothing is taboo, but at the same time its all for the purpose of genaerting laughter

 

f1_fan, I posted this on page 6 as my response to Jacko:

I am pleased to know that you are also one of the rare males on Scoobynet who don't like gutter level talks that involves female degradation. Thank you for being one of the good guys with some respect for women.


Pleasure, Lee.X

I try ignoring such chavvish low level talks here, but it doesn't mean I like it. I don't think any respectable woman who visits this forum will appreciate this constant filth. Doublessly, we women are in agreement on this. I'm glad that some good men are also in agreement with us e.g. Jacko, Bubba and f1_fan.

 

I just think that if the word gay was replaced by p*ki or n*gger, this thread wouldn't have lasted five seconds with the bigotry being displayed.

 

Maybe, but that wouldn't be my course of action in those threads either, and I have posted almost the same comments in the past on those threads. Obviously, as I have said, I am not the only mod on here, so decisions will be made by others if the decision of one isn't 'right'.

I want to be quite clear that I am against bigotry in any form, I just don't think silencing people or stopping discussion is the way to making things better. Surely increasing understanding and open-mindedness comes from talking to each other and looking at things from a different point of view.

 

Wimmins of SN (and the men agreeing with them) aren't we going a bit over the top with the 'banter' issue on here? (I'm not talking about the homophobic issues btw)

I'm not saying it is particularly funny or clever to hear people going on about 'smashing back doors in' or similar phrases but what is the big deal?

Women on here say a man is 'fit', or if they were twenty years younger etc etc. What are they implying? I presume that they find the man sexually attractive and therefore would like to undertake some kind of sexual activity with them.(even if it is just a fantasy)

Is this that different to a man actually saying in black and white exactly what he would like that activity to be ie smashing back doors?

If a man said he would like to kiss a woman all night, or make love to a woman that would be ok? But these are sexual activities too aren't they, no real difference to **** sex.

Don't get me wrong, I don't go around speaking like that. I'd also find somebody who spoke like that all the time tedious, inappropriate and inadequate.

However bizarrely something in me says I'd like to defend the right of others to be able to speak like that if they so wish. Perhaps to a degree I'm playing devils advocate here, but free speech when it does not involve harm or hatred should probably be defended.

I can't see why it is so offensive. It is not like racist, sexist or homophobic comments which will often have an element of hatred in them or incitement to hate. Smashing back doors in (and similar) are just an expression used to convey the fact that a man would like to have a particular kind of consensual sexual encounter with a woman.

Is it really such a big deal?

 

Here is a precis of a PM I wrote in reply to another member on this subject:

To be honest I find myself coming here less and less these days. I have always hated the way 'gay' is used as a derogatory term on here and the way a lot of the same 'men' talk about women and particularly with reference to **** sex. It is juvenile and somewhat pathetic not to mention in some ways debasing to female and gay membrs of the board. I have a couple of gay friends and if they read that thread and thought as a long time member here I supported those sort of views I would be mortified

Certain posters behave like thick neanderthal morons who bring little to the site anyway, but a lot of of the regulars also brush it off as just banter and join in yet it isn't, it's insulting and unecessary and I would have thought they could have grown out of it by now.

My main issue is as ever with the moderation though. Why the f**k is that thread being allowed to stay there untouched? My differences with some of the mod team are well documented but a board where you can get infracted for trolling about Apple or calling the moedration pathetic, but where it is perfectly acceptable to insult gays and women as a matter of course is not somewhere I want to frequent that often frankly!

 

Exactly

 

look there will always be bravado and bragging from men, its in our dna. its not just gays who get it, as said people of other faiths,creeds and colours get predjudiced against every day all over the planet. until the day we all sit in high chairs listening to wyld stallions from bill and ted and say "be excellent to each other" it will go on. this thread was always gonna be a loser, lets all chill! personally the suns out up here for a change so im off to wash my car. peace to all at snet (that includes the closet gays on here!)

 

This place gets more pathetic every day

What do you want? A forum where we are not allowed to talk about any thing!! Or a forum where we are only allowed to use certain words to describe something?

Just because some ***** don't like it!!

Who do some people think they are!!


P.S. There's nothing wrong with a bit of bumming!

 

Hi Ding.
It's the hypocrisy that I can't stand. Giving homosexuals a hard time when in some other thread they are wanting to do the very thing that offends them, to a wimmins. I can't get my head around that, at all.
I love a bit of banter, some members on this board have had me ill with laughter at some of their comments.
I am a great believer in live and let live and showing mutual respect to my fellow human beings.