MattyB1983

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Or buy a radar detector....

JPC500

How fast you were clocked ? did you have a choice of fixed penalty or awareness course?

greylag

[QUOTE=JPC500;10612064]How fast you were clocked ? did you have a choice of fixed penalty or awareness course?[/QUOTE

I was doing 49 in a 40 limit,yes they gave me the choice but fancied keeping my licence clean,so it was pay £90 and attend a speed awareness course not pay the fine £60 and 3 points.They informed me of the choice on the notice of intention to prosecute form which i recieved shortly after being trapped.

CharlySkunkWeed

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^^^^^ lasts 3 years , so best behaviour till then

JPC500

Its been exactly x1 week today and no speeding ticket yet ??

CharlySkunkWeed

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Another week then u can breathe easy ! Unfortunatly i was in my company van which means as long as they notify the lease people in time they are ok. I may not find out for 3 weeks !

JPC500

Well it's been exactly x2 weeks today that I sped past the mobile speed camera van , is it safe to say looks like I got lucky and got away with it ??

maggieomx

hiya all be nice to me im new to this forum was travelling home in manchester think i was doing 50 in a 40 zone (no excuse ) when i spied a high top transit parked at my side of the road with a camera poking out the back window i presume it was a speed camera ??
is it true the NIP must reach me in 2 weeks ?? or its invalid ??,, does that count weekends in , or is it working days ?? it was on thursday 30th august i was tyrapped , so if i dont hear by 13th september does that mean i havent been spotted by them ?? just out of intrest what happens if it comes later than that ?? can i reject it ????

i know its no excuse but i just needed to get home i wasnt feeling well, i normaly stick to the limit thanks xxxt

stevep360

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I heard that as long as the NIP is dated within the 14days of the offence then it can come any time.

maggieomx

thanks for the reply steve, just wondering what do you do "IF" it comes after the 14 days ???

joz8968

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As above, even if it comes after 14 days, it doesn't necessarily mean that you've got off....

As above, it's the date stamp i.e. the PO's ink-pad stamp over the postage stamp (or indeed the printed date on a franking label), which should tell you if it was sent within 14 days of the date of the alleged offence. If it is, then I'd still seek 30mins free solicitors advice..... just in case there's still a way out. But it's unlikely there will be.

If it's stamped 15 days or more after the alleged offence, then you should by home and dry...

andy97

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You should read the Road traffic 1988 and Road traffic offenders Act 1988. The nip must be "served" within 14 days.

Eg If the nip was dated on the 13th day but arrived on the 15 the day then the nip is invalid and not enforceable. You will need to stand your ground in the face of police pressure who will lie to make you believe that the nip was correctly served. I suggest you go to www.pepipoo.com. and check the website for yourself

Oggy249

that list JCP500 put up do they do a list for every area ,i live in middlesbrough so would cleveland police do one ,thanks

joz8968

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I thought it was when the coppers sent it - not when it was received, that was the 'law'?

There seems to be a bit of conjecture over this, as I've seen this debated many times, without no definite general consensus on what is correct. Unless, as you say, the CPS, police or whoever, have peddled the 'myth' in order to 'frighten' people (like me) into thinking it, so as to potentially gain more convictions.

If what you say is true though (and I'm not doubting it), then to re-visit maggie's Q; she'd(?) be off the hook.

andy97

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The police and cps do and will pressure you, by lying. Yes most will just give in, but those who have stood their ground(see pepipoo cases re 14 day rule) have won. The police dont like it when the general public use the law to defend themselves against speeding

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Indeed.

I successfully 'got off' a speeding conviction. To cut a long story short, I employed the services of a solicitor to draw up a detailed map of the road layout, etc in question, with a supporting statement in mitigation, etc, etc. (but it was more a damning of the complainant copper, than mitigation lol ).

As soon as the complainant copper at court saw this evidence he couldn't believe the lengths the defendant had gone to, and instructed the magistrates to simply throw out the case. He then pissed off with his tail firmly between his legs.

As you say, the NIP, or indeed any other means of prosecution, is all designed to 'frighten' the accused and try to make them 'give in' through self doubt.

It's all about knowledge at the end of the day....

Terminator X

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I've seen em stood outside the van too pinging people travelling toward the front of the van usually the camera faces rearwards though.

TX.

joz8968

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*****.

CharlySkunkWeed

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seen a copper driving with a full on icecream in his hand yesterday ! IMO it would be safer using a mobile !

FroSt1

iTrader: (12)

I was informed if its handheld and not fixed they have to catch you up and serve there and then

maggieomx

so i was spied on speeding on the 30th august so hopefully if i havent been notified by 14th september i might of got away with it ??

so if i do get a notice and open it what date should i hope for ??? or is it the date stamp on the enverlope i look at ???

iv got everything crossed at the moment

chopperman

Nope. They have two weeks from date of offence to either issue the ticket or notice of intended prosecution. After that they have 6 months from date of offence to issue a court summons.
Making yourself vanish for that period of time will not help you either. The dates run from time of offence to the date the notice was issued.

As for hand held, it makes no difference. All the police need is a time and place of offence, and the recorded speed by a Home office approved device.

Hawkeye D

We all know this is just a money spinning excercise. It's not about reducing casualties, making us all safer. It's about targets and money. Nothing else.

maggieomx

HIYA TO YOU ALL LOVLEY PEOPLE

my son in law was caught speeding doing 51 in a 30 zone on an express way,
on the date of offence is ,,20/august at 07.55, printed on letter, and at the top of the letter the date is 6/september could you tell me if the offence is in valid because of the date please ,,,,,,,please say yes


i still havent got my pin yet fron 30th august either fingers crossed xxxxx

Rescue Dude

iTrader: (11)

http://www.pepipoo.com/NIP.htm

chopperman

Contact the office that issued the notice of intended and inform them they are out of time. They will then cancel it, don't just do nothing and not turn up to court.

maggieomx

HIYA CHOPPERMAN YOU ARE A STAR THANKS FOR QUICK REPLY

maggieomx

can someone tell me why they make an """"EXPRESS WAY"""" A

30MPH

IS THE CLUE NOT IN THE NAME ????

maggieomx

HIYA CHOPPERMAN ,i knew it was to good to be true my s-i-l foned cheshire police ticket office and was told the nip still stands as s-i-l has a lease car and the reason the date was so long is because they went to the lease company first to find out the driver , so the ticket still stands gutted for him thought we had got one over on the vultures !!,,,no such luck thanks for the help though maggie x

chopperman

Ah gutted mate. That the loop hole for them if the driver of the car was not the registered keeper.
All's not quite lost just yet though. They now have 6 months from the date of offence to issue a court summons, unless they are giving a fixed penalty ticket. It will all depend on how busy CPS are as to whether they will bother or get the summons out in time. Fingers crossed.