So who is defying the hosepipe ban tomorrow ?
04 April 2012, 10:20 PM
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Those high in the water industry have been fretting about shortages in the southern parts of England for years we are getting less water and using more and more the probelms are only just starting.
04 April 2012, 10:56 PM
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as said above allow expansion in population but dont have increase in resources then shortages occur
capitalism wouldn't allow this in a pure form as much of the population explosion is created by migration to cash in on the welfare state if this was operated as a national insurance policy e.g. pay in claim out then that would sort the problem whilst providing pensions and health care for the population at a sustainable level if you emigrate then pay a bond like Australia......... do they have hose pipe bans?
capitalism wouldn't allow this in a pure form as much of the population explosion is created by migration to cash in on the welfare state if this was operated as a national insurance policy e.g. pay in claim out then that would sort the problem whilst providing pensions and health care for the population at a sustainable level if you emigrate then pay a bond like Australia......... do they have hose pipe bans?
04 April 2012, 11:14 PM
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as said above allow expansion in population but dont have increase in resources then shortages occur
capitalism wouldn't allow this in a pure form as much of the population explosion is created by migration to cash in on the welfare state if this was operated as a national insurance policy e.g. pay in claim out then that would sort the problem whilst providing pensions and health care for the population at a sustainable level if you emigrate then pay a bond like Australia......... do they have hose pipe bans?
capitalism wouldn't allow this in a pure form as much of the population explosion is created by migration to cash in on the welfare state if this was operated as a national insurance policy e.g. pay in claim out then that would sort the problem whilst providing pensions and health care for the population at a sustainable level if you emigrate then pay a bond like Australia......... do they have hose pipe bans?
I agree with the cause of our immigration to come extent but the logic is still there that the economy 'must grow'. Capitalism never seems content to just 'be' it has to keep growing or die.
IMHO when Capitalism reaches 'hard limits' we would be living in an intolerable society of environmental and human wreckage. It would be a kind of dystopia.
05 April 2012, 01:08 AM
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We've got conflicting aims. On one hand you have the crushing logic of Capitalism which demands more consumption and this goes hand in hand with the crushing logic of our fiscal problems which demands more tax payers. OTOH we have the 'save the world' climate change agenda as government policy which is totally diametrically opposed to the needs of Capitalism and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Government's logical brainwaves seem to be very illogical, I agree. Even my cats were a bit confused when they came to know about the clampdown on inernational students intake who bring in substantial revenue to the universities. Where's the logic in letting "the ones who jump out of the ship containers" spread, and stop the ones who pay well, gain their degrees and get the **** outta here??? I reckon the Government is in a state of frenzy and its cutting its nose to spite its face. I may be wrong. Government may have some shrewd purpose to refuse easy revenue. Another paradox- Refuse the revenue to gain the revenue.
Smart move indeed.
05 April 2012, 07:08 AM
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This the part that I find laughable.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPY3G...&feature=share
05 April 2012, 07:12 AM
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Fill a water but near your car with buckets of water, drop your pressure washer feed pipe in and sorted........ no hose connected to mains water.
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05 April 2012, 08:42 AM
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According to the spokesman from Anglian on Sky earlier, the hose pipe ban would save '67% of water' (note: he did NOT qualify that % in anyway!) and Anglian had '13,000 km ** of water pipe to look after, enough to go around the world'. Not sure what 'world' he lives on ... 
Eamonn was trying to give him a hard time but didn't pick up either of these.
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** he might have said 13000 miles but, whichever he did say, both are obviously wrong!
Eamonn was trying to give him a hard time but didn't pick up either of these.
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** he might have said 13000 miles but, whichever he did say, both are obviously wrong!
05 April 2012, 09:00 AM
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20000 miles i heard . Still short of a circumference !
The other touted figure was 1.2 billion to fix the leaks over 10 years ( or similar) versus a hosepipe ban now
The other touted figure was 1.2 billion to fix the leaks over 10 years ( or similar) versus a hosepipe ban now
05 April 2012, 09:17 AM
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What annoys me is I can pay the Estonians at the top of the road to wash my car with a hose pipe and pressure washer but I can't use my own hose or pressure washer to wash the car - shows who pays the most in water rates doesn't it
05 April 2012, 09:46 AM
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05 April 2012, 11:17 AM
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no hose pipe bans here in Norn Iron so if any dirty girls want to come and share my bath... I 'll even hose you down afterwards 
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05 April 2012, 12:40 PM
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The water infrastructure in the south is under pressure and cannot cope, its nice though that so many people have ideas to let them continuously waste and stay within the terms of the ban. The alternative is people actually are sensible and try to not waste so much water. IMO it should be illegal to wash any car with mains fed drinking quality water unless you are on a meter. I have never watered the garden and never will complete waste of drinking quality water.
05 April 2012, 12:46 PM
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The water infrastructure in the south is under pressure and cannot cope, its nice though that so many people have ideas to let them continuously waste and stay within the terms of the ban. The alternative is people actually are sensible and try to not waste so much water. IMO it should be illegal to wash any car with mains fed drinking quality water unless you are on a meter. I have never watered the garden and never will complete waste of drinking quality water.
The infrastructure should be in better order given how much we pay towards it, but as with everything in this cuntry the big man has lined his pockets whilst the consumer has been screwed over - time to fight back through the use of initiative.
And actually, the ban encourages you to use buckets to water the garden and wash the car rather than a hose which is ill-informed as buckets are much more wasteful
05 April 2012, 01:02 PM
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sorry but you have zero to no clue about the ins and outs of it chap
05 April 2012, 01:17 PM
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as said above allow expansion in population but dont have increase in resources then shortages occur
capitalism wouldn't allow this in a pure form as much of the population explosion is created by migration to cash in on the welfare state if this was operated as a national insurance policy e.g. pay in claim out then that would sort the problem whilst providing pensions and health care for the population at a sustainable level if you emigrate then pay a bond like Australia......... do they have hose pipe bans?
capitalism wouldn't allow this in a pure form as much of the population explosion is created by migration to cash in on the welfare state if this was operated as a national insurance policy e.g. pay in claim out then that would sort the problem whilst providing pensions and health care for the population at a sustainable level if you emigrate then pay a bond like Australia......... do they have hose pipe bans?
It makes me laugh when "tdw" is going on about immigration being at fault AGAIN (obviously educated as you can tell by his views on capitalism) and then the polish get a mention a bit further along. If colonialism and communism had not done as much damage would we be where we are now? Do we want a free and fair society? Do we practice democracy?
The water table in the SE as been in ****e strasse since the 76 drought and as never recovered. Tarmacing over the front garden of the house does not allow water to percolate down and replenish the stocks, and a secondary effect is flooding because the darins cannot handle it.
The majority of you chose to live, work and play where you are. If you don't like it then try another place. Try emigrating, you'll become an immigrant then.
05 April 2012, 01:34 PM
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The infrastructure should be in better order given how much we pay towards it, but as with everything in this cuntry the big man has lined his pockets whilst the consumer has been screwed over - time to fight back through the use of initiative.
And actually, the ban encourages you to use buckets to water the garden and wash the car rather than a hose which is ill-informed as buckets are much more wasteful
05 April 2012, 01:49 PM
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lol. Problem is alot of folks think that way and theres zero truth in it. If water companies were charging enough to do exactly what folks demand i bet bills would be £1000 a month +. the volumes of water involved are beyond alot of folks comprehension and too high to do anything realistic.
I remember all the flooding down south and the hassel that caused. Folks were up in arms, why havn't water companies stopped it form happenign etc etc, yet To prevent it your talking trillion of pounds of infrastructure, yes it can be done but the result doesn't justfy that cost for a 1 in 100 year happening.
Also the leakage figures mentioned are a drop in the ocean, litteraly, yes they should be improved but budgets only allow so much to be done im afraid.
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05 April 2012, 03:57 PM
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I have no interest in any of this and certainly not in whether Swiss can wash his car or not,
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if we're talking about Mrs Swiss and the previous photographic evidence of her car washing then that's a different thing entirely
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if we're talking about Mrs Swiss and the previous photographic evidence of her car washing then that's a different thing entirely
05 April 2012, 05:07 PM
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I seem to remember bans on watering when I was in Perth. I can't remember exactly as I never living in a house with a lawn that needed watering. In general though they have reticulation systems which come on in the evening so as not to waste water by evaporation.
The water table in the SE as been in ****e strasse since the 76 drought and as never recovered. Tarmacing over the front garden of the house does not allow water to percolate down and replenish the stocks, and a secondary effect is flooding because the darins cannot handle it.