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Old 22 March 2012, 06:07 PM
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Imagine paying 20k for a car and that happening...
So, need to keep an eye out for a box, probably worth doing it now just in case one isn't available when i need it.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Imagine paying 20k for a car and that happening...
So, need to keep an eye out for a box, probably worth doing it now just in case one isn't available when i need it.
Some of the cars there are worth six figures. The carbon wheels on the GT3 are worth more than my car.
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Default Impreza Applied Model/Engine Codes

slightly off topic but might help someone....
Impreza Applied Model/Engine Codes
You will find the codes on the VIN plate.

J D M - "Import" Model Codes Type/Version/HP
• 1992 - 1995
GC8A48D.....WRX 4 door / 238
GC8A47D ... WRX Type RA 4 door / 238
GC8B48D ... WRX 4 door / 248
GF8B25D =. WRX 5 door / 218
GC8B47D ....WRX Type RA 4 door / 258
GC8B47D =. WRX Type RA STi V1 4 door / 272
GF8B58D = .WRX 5 door / 218
GF8B58D =. WRX Type RA 5 door / 248
GF8B58D =. WRX STi V1 5 door / 258
GC8C48D = WRX 4 door / 238
• 1995 - 1997
GC8C47D =.WRX STi V1 4 door / 258
GC8C47D = WRX Type RA STi V1 4 door /272
GF8C58D =. WRX 5 door / 218
GC8C4ED =.WRX STi V2 555 4 door /272
GC8C4DD =.WRX Type RA STi V2 / 272
GC8C4DD =.WRX Type RA STi V2 V-Limited / 272
GF8C58D = .WRX STi V2 5 door / 258
GF8C58D = .WRX STi V2 555 5 door / 258
GF8C58P = .WRX 5 door AT / 220
GC8D2DD =.WRX Type R STi 2 door / 278
GC8D48D =,WRX 4 door / 258
GC8D47D . .WRX Type RA 4 door /278
• 1997 - 1998
GC8D4ED = WRX STi V3 4 door / 278
GC8D4ED = WRX STi V3 Type V-Limited 4 door / 278
GC8D4DD = WRX Type RA STi V3 / 278
GF8D58D = WRX 5 door / 238
GF8D5ED = WRX STi V3 5 door / 278
GF8D5ED = WRX STi V3 V-Limited 5 door /278
GF8D58P = WRX 5 door AT / 238
• 1998 - 1999
GC8E2DD = WRX Type R STi V4 2 door /278
GC8E2DD = WRX Type R STi V4 V-Limited 2 door / 278
GC8E2SD = WRX Type R STi Type 22B / 278
GC8E27D = WRX Type RA V-Limited 2 door /278
GC8E48D = WRX 4 door / 248
GC8E47D = WRX Type RA 4 door /278
GC8E4ED = WRX STi V4 4 door /278
GC8E4DD = WRX Type RA STi V4 4 door /278
GC8E4DD = WRX Type RA STi V4 4 door V-Limited / 278
GF8E58D = WRX 5 door / 248
GF8E5ED = WRX STi V4 5 door /278
GF8E58P = WRX 5 door AT /240
GC8F2DD = WRX Type R STi V5 2 door /278
GC8F2DD = WRX Type R STi V5 V-Limited 2 door /278
GC8F27D = WRX Type RA V-Limited 2 door /278
GC8F48D = WRX 4 door /248
• 1999 - 2000
GC8F47D = WRX Type RA 4 door /278
GC8F4ED = WRX Type STi V4 4 door /278
GC8F4DD = WRX Type RA STi V5 4 door /278
GC8F4DD = WRX Type RA STi V5 4 door V-Limited / 278
GF8F58D = WRX 5 door / 248
GC8G2FD = WRX Type R STi V6 Limited / 278
GC8G48D = WRX Type RA 4 door / 278
GC8G47D = WRX Type RA Limited 4 door / 278
GC8G4DD = WRX Type RA STi6 4 door / 278

• WRX Type RA
Race Altered is a lighter weight Impreza generally they come without underseal, radio-cassette, electric windows & sound deadening materials in the cabin. The RA comes with a closed deck block, shorter gearing & rally flap style roof vent.




• Applied VIN Chassis Codes
GF4. = 2.2L Impreza Wagon
GD2. = 2.0L Impreza WRX saloon
GC5. = 1.8L Impreza saloon
GC8. = 2.0L Impreza saloon (Classic)
GF8. = 2.0L Impreza Wagon (Classic)
GDA. = 2.0L Impreza WRX saloon (New Age)
GGA. = 2.0L Impreza WRX Wagon (New Age)
GDB. = 2.0L Impreza WRX STi saloon (New Age)
GGB. = 2.0L Impreza WRX STi wagon (New Age)
GFC. = 2.2L Impreza Wagon
GME. = 2.5L Impreza Coupe
GD7. = 2.5L Impreza WRX STi saloon
GDF. = 2.5L Impreza WRX STi
GM6. = 2.5L Impreza Coupe
• Applied Model Codes (Body)
GC = Impreza saloon ,,(Classic)
GF = Impreza Wagon ,.(Classic)
GM....Impreza Coupe ..(Classic)
GD = Impreza saloon...(New Age)
GG = Impreza Wagon,,(New Age)


• UK Applied Model Codes (Classic)
GC8EK8D = Turbo 4 door
GC8EKFJ = ,Sport 4 door
GF8EKFJ = . Sport 5 door
GC8EK8D = Catalunya
GC8FK8D = Turbo 4 door
GF8FK8D = Turbo 5 door
GC8GK8D = RB5
GC8HK8D = Turbo 4 door
GC8HKED = P1
• Applied Model Codes (New Age)
GDABK8D = WRX
GDBBKKH = WRX STi Prodrive
GDBCKEH = WRX STi


• Applied Engine Codes
EJ-12 = 1189cc FF Drive
EJ-15 = 1493cc FF
EJ-16 = 1597cc AWD
EJ-18 = 1820cc AWD
EJ-20 = 1994cc AWD
EJ-22 = 2212cc AWD
EJ-251 =2457cc AWD
EJ-257 =2457cc AWD
EJ-16 = 1597cc SOHC 16V
EJ-16J =1597cc SOHC 16V
EJ18S =1820cc SOHC 16V
EJ20E =1994cc SOHC 16V
EJ20G =1994cc DOHC 16V Turbo - Found in early model JDM WRXs and STIs
EJ20K ..1994cc DOHC 16V Turbo - Design change from the EJ20G (96-98)

EJ20T =1994cc DOHC 16V Turbo
EJ205.. 1994cc DOHC 16v Turbo - non-JDM
EJ22E= .2212cc SOHC 16V
EJ22T =2212cc SOHC 16V Turbo
EJ22K.. 2212cc DOHC 16V Turbo-found in the 22B
EJ255 =2457cc DOHC 16V Turbo
EJ25T =2457cc DOHC 16V Turbo
EJ257.. 2457cc DOHC 16V Turbo - new age STi






What your Subaru VIN number actually means.


Sample VIN. (UK 2002 WRX) J F 1 G D A K D 3 .2 ..G ..XXXXXX

Digit Number: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 .11 ..12-17

1. Region: J = Asia
2. Country: 1 & 2 JF = Japan
3. Manufacturer: 2 & 3 F1 = Subaru
4. Series: G = Impreza
5. Body Style: = Saloon
6. Engine Displacement: A = 2.0L
7. Model: K = WRX
8. Restraint Type
9. Check Digit:
10. Year: 2 = 2002
11. Assembly Plant/Transmission Type: G = AWD MT5
12 -17 = 6 Digit Prodution Serial Number
Old 23 March 2012, 07:27 PM
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Stripped the gearbox today, very simple to work on

Output side of 4th


Input side

Old 23 March 2012, 10:23 PM
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Yeah that's not gonna work too well like that
Old 23 March 2012, 11:27 PM
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That's a proper job.
Old 24 March 2012, 01:49 AM
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lol new box coming tomorrow
Old 25 March 2012, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Baz82
lol new box coming tomorrow
What box have you gone for Baz if you don't mind me asking?
Old 25 March 2012, 04:29 PM
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after reading all that im none the wiser lol...i suppose they all have pros and cons.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
What box have you gone for Baz if you don't mind me asking?
If Baz is sticking with his original plan, I believe he is going for the gearbox from a 2001 Legacy twin turbo. The 99/00 twin turbo legacies shared the same gearbox as the 99/00 impreza WRX saloon and STi; I suspect the 01 legacy twin turbo will be almost identical.

These boxes are supposed to be a bit stronger, with many people on the P1 forum running healthy 400bhp through them with few reported problems. That's on a 2 litre though, with 2 litre torque - Baz is putting more torque through it with the 2.5 litre motor.

It will be interesting to see how it all copes!
Old 26 March 2012, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprint Chief
If Baz is sticking with his original plan, I believe he is going for the gearbox from a 2001 Legacy twin turbo. The 99/00 twin turbo legacies shared the same gearbox as the 99/00 impreza WRX saloon and STi; I suspect the 01 legacy twin turbo will be almost identical.

These boxes are supposed to be a bit stronger, with many people on the P1 forum running healthy 400bhp through them with few reported problems. That's on a 2 litre though, with 2 litre torque - Baz is putting more torque through it with the 2.5 litre motor.

It will be interesting to see how it all copes!

Thats the plan yes I have the boxes out of both cars , just have to remove the diffs now and fit everything. I dont I have more than 350 torque being honest . For the price I paid I'll take a chance on the legacy TY754VBBBA
Old 26 March 2012, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Baz82
Thats the plan yes I have the boxes out of both cars , just have to remove the diffs now and fit everything. I dont I have more than 350 torque being honest . For the price I paid I'll take a chance on the legacy TY754VBBBA
It will be insteresting to see how it copes Baz, what did you pay?
Old 26 March 2012, 05:54 PM
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Good read, currently waiting for the inevitable bang in my 95 WRX box to go.
Old 26 March 2012, 08:10 PM
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I've done 2 TY752 boxes, the noise when you strip second gear is quite impressive.

Been running a TY754VN1AA box, for a few years now with no issues.

Not all gearboxes are the same though, just like Impreza's.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
It will be insteresting to see how it copes Baz, what did you pay?
It will indeed , I paid €100 for the box and diff and I am breaking and storing the car they came from for a mate , good deal I reckon.

I had to change over the ring gear from the legacy 4.1 diff and fit it to the Impreza diff today and fitted it to the legacy casing so I have a matched Box and rear diff and no problems with shafts. Thanks to David in Api for the advice through email.

So basically the 98 sti has a 4.4 final drive and the Legacy a 4.1, plan was to fit the box and whole rear diff and shaft from the legacy. That clearly wasnt going to work as the shafts are slight longer and not as thick as the Impreza's.
To sort the Final drive and shaft problem the solution was to remove the leggy's rear diff ring gear (4.1) over to the Impreza's diff and fit the diff in the leggy's diff casing so the pinion match the ring gear. Thats all done now all I have to do is drop the diff into somewhere to set the backlash clearance so that the diff is not overly noisey, or wear prematurely.
He's a a few pics:

New Box


Stripping the diffs legacy on the left and wagon's on the right


Legacy Diff


Impreza diff


Ring gear from impreza


Ring gear removed from the Impreza diff


Impreza ring gear with 40:9 Stamped into it , divide 9 into 40 you get 4.44


Legacy Ring gear with 37:9 stamped into it, divide 9 into 37 you get 4.11


Impreza diff with legacy ring gear fitted


Diff then fitted to leggy casing
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Originally Posted by Baz82
It will indeed , I paid €100 for the box and diff and I am breaking and storing the car they came from for a mate , good deal I reckon.

I had to change over the ring gear from the legacy 4.1 diff and fit it to the Impreza diff today and fitted it to the legacy casing so I have a matched Box and rear diff and no problems with shafts. Thanks to David in Api for the advice through email.

So basically the 98 sti has a 4.4 final drive and the Legacy a 4.1, plan was to fit the box and whole rear diff and shaft from the legacy. That clearly wasnt going to work as the shafts are slight longer and not as thick as the Impreza's.
To sort the Final drive and shaft problem the solution was to remove the leggy's rear diff ring gear (4.1) over to the Impreza's diff and fit the diff in the leggy's diff casing so the pinion match the ring gear. Thats all done now all I have to do is drop the diff into somewhere to set the backlash clearance so that the diff is not overly noisey, or wear prematurely.
He's a a few pics:

New Box


Stripping the diffs legacy on the left and wagon's on the right


Legacy Diff


Impreza diff


Ring gear from impreza


Ring gear removed from the Impreza diff


Impreza ring gear with 40:9 Stamped into it , divide 9 into 40 you get 4.44


Legacy Ring gear with 37:9 stamped into it, divide 9 into 37 you get 4.11


Impreza diff with legacy ring gear fitted


Diff then fitted to leggy casing
nice flip plops with socks in your pic
Old 28 March 2012, 01:45 AM
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Lol cheers I'll tell my mother you like them
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Originally Posted by Baz82
Lol cheers I'll tell my mother you like them

deepest apologies...... to mum
Old 28 March 2012, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by craigo
deepest apologies...... to mum
She was just greeting the new garage lodger
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Wow Baz good job you played safe and swapped them over. I double checked the list and the MY00 legacy is 4.44, the MY01 is actually not listed... oops!

Nice photo record though, very useful

Does the shift seem different? Are they interchangeable?
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Originally Posted by Sprint Chief
Wow Baz good job you played safe and swapped them over. I double checked the list and the MY00 legacy is 4.44, the MY01 is actually not listed... oops!

Nice photo record though, very useful

Does the shift seem different? Are they interchangeable?
Yes the 01 has a 4.11 Final drive, suits me being honest always thought the 2.5 could use longer ratios.

The shifter seems the same in both nothing to be done there I reckon.

I dropped the diff off today to get the backlash checked should get the box in tomorrow and collect the diff then tomorrow evening
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The wagons back on the road , feels great, happy it all worked out . 120km/h (motorway speed in Ireland) is 3000rpm as apposed to 3250rpm
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Originally Posted by Baz82
The wagons back on the road , feels great, happy it all worked out...
*CRUNCH! BANG!*

#dum de dum de dum...#

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Good stuff Baz, be interesting to find out how that handles the torque. Hopefully the gearset is the same as the v5/v6 STi ones which plenty of other people (e.g. P1 crowd) are running higher power and torque on.

Sounds a bit calmer than my RA which is just coming up to 4krpm at UK motorway speeds...

Another interesting claim I wasn't aware of, read on another forum. Allegedly early 6-speed boxes have a design flaw that causes 4th/5th/6th synchros to fail after a period of time. I'm assured that it is a cheap fix, but I think that "cheap" in this sense means "cheap compared to the price of a six speed gearbox".

If you're getting a six-speed gearbox, make sure it is either a later model box (not sure when the changeover is or what gearbox code yet) or an early one which has had the synchros repaired (the replacement part is redesigned and should fix the problem). Otherwise you might be paying more for a box which should have no further costs... only to find out you have to pay out as much as a 5 speed box again to repair the design flaw

Usual caveats apply here to info found on the internet etc.
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^ It is indeed prudent to go for a blob box yes

I bought a blob box for my other classic but in my '95 classic the bug box runs fine tbh. If you look, generally bug boxes are the cheapest to buy. Broadly speaking £1000-£1500 for a bug box £1500-£2000 for a blob box and Hawkboxes £2k+... Exceptions apply but this is generally the trend I've noticed
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Originally Posted by joz8968
*CRUNCH! BANG!*

#dum de dum de dum...#


Shhhhhh its grand I only paid €100 for the box

Originally Posted by Sprint Chief
Good stuff Baz, be interesting to find out how that handles the torque. Hopefully the gearset is the same as the v5/v6 STi ones which plenty of other people (e.g. P1 crowd) are running higher power and torque on.

Sounds a bit calmer than my RA which is just coming up to 4krpm at UK motorway speeds...

Another interesting claim I wasn't aware of, read on another forum. Allegedly early 6-speed boxes have a design flaw that causes 4th/5th/6th synchros to fail after a period of time. I'm assured that it is a cheap fix, but I think that "cheap" in this sense means "cheap compared to the price of a six speed gearbox".

If you're getting a six-speed gearbox, make sure it is either a later model box (not sure when the changeover is or what gearbox code yet) or an early one which has had the synchros repaired (the replacement part is redesigned and should fix the problem). Otherwise you might be paying more for a box which should have no further costs... only to find out you have to pay out as much as a 5 speed box again to repair the design flaw

Usual caveats apply here to info found on the internet etc.
I reckon it will do me fine if I stay away from the track
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This has just popped up for sale...
https://www.scoobynet.com/car-parts-...shift-kit.html
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