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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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what is the ccc and how do i get to it please jura?
CCC is ATi Catalyst

Here is how it looks




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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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another thing i have noticed, when ever i put a driver on, after it has done it says installlation is compleat (warning occured during insterlation)

this is from the log report

Catalyst™ Install Manager
Installation Report
03/13/12 16:31:29

Hardware information
Name AMD Radeon Graphics Processor
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Device ID 0x9441
Vendor ID 0x1002
Class Code 0x030000
Revision ID 0x00
Subsystem ID 0x2542
Subsystem vendor ID 0x1002
Other hardware
Existing packages
AMD APP SDK Runtime
HDMI/DP Audio Driver
AMD Drag and Drop Transcoding
AMD Media Foundation Decoders
Packages for install
AMD Catalyst Install Manager
Final Status: Success
Version of Item: 3.0.859.0
Size: 20 Mbytes
AMD APP SDK Runtime
Final Status: Success
Version of Item: 10.0.851.4
Size: 90 Mbytes
AMD Display Driver
Final Status: Success
Version of Item: 8.930.0.0000
Size: 90 Mbytes
HDMI/DP Audio Driver
Final Status: Success
Version of Item: 7.12.0.7704
Size: 1 Mbytes
AMD Media Foundation Decoders
Final Status: Success
Version of Item: 1.0.61205.2219
Size: 1 Mbytes
Catalyst Control Center
Final Status: Success
Version of Item: 2011.1205.2215.39827
Size: 150 Mbytes

Other detected devices
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Device ID 0xaa30
Vendor ID 0x1002
Class Code 0x040300
Revision ID 0x00
Subsystem ID 0xaa30
Subsystem vendor ID 0x1002
AMD Radeon Graphics Processor
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Device ID 0x9441
Vendor ID 0x1002
Class Code 0x038000
Revision ID 0x00
Subsystem ID 0x2042
Subsystem vendor ID 0x1002

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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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What errors?

From log no errors there


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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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i disabled the AI in ccc and the game now works. i just had a coop match and it was fine with no crashing or errors.

is there anything bad from not haveing the ai on, or what does it do?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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i disabled the AI in ccc and the game now works. i just had a coop match and it was fine with no crashing or errors.

is there anything bad from not haveing the ai on, or what does it do?
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If A.I is off,you are running just one core from your GPU,something like you are have now just standard 4870,if its on you have 4870X2(two cores of your GPU)

Its not problem of your GPU,but seems is problem of games itself.If you have other games try with A.I on and off and from this you will know what working best for you(and without the BSOD)


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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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could it be worth changing the gard to a single type version then, if so what would be on par/better than the 4870x2 card?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
could it be worth changing the gard to a single type version then, if so what would be on par/better than the 4870x2 card?
Ian 4870X2 is in some games on par with HD5870 and this main reason why people still love and use 4870X2.

Main problem of the 4870X2 is doesn't support DX11 and If you play a game that doesn't support CF or it scales poorly, you'll see huge gains with the newer GPU single card,plus power consumption of newer ATi cards is lot less than 4870X2

If you are looking to upgrade your GPU,i would go with HD6870

Difference between the 6870 and 4870X2 in performance is negligible


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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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im gueesing the performance with the 6870 be alot better over my 4870x2 with i have the A.I disabled so only running half the card?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
im gueesing the performance with the 6870 be alot better over my 4870x2 with i have the A.I disabled so only running half the card?
Really Ian try other games with A.I on and off and from this i would decide if its worth go for newer graphic card or no

Yes 6870 card will be better in games where CF(CrossFire) doesn't work well

Before buying new card,try different games(CoD,Dirt etc.) with different setting and from this you will know if its worth.


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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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just got a 6870, and had the same errror on install like you had .. i recon itsthe rdivers that have an issue ...
however im loving the card so far ... BUT now need a psu .. damn computers, my 530 watt is a bit too close for comfort..
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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i got a new psu the other day as my 500w zalman died. i went for a ocz zs 750w
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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the GTX 480 looks like a nice card. but i better start saving
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
the GTX 480 looks like a nice card. but i better start saving
Is good card,but for lot less you can have HD6970 which performance wise is same or similar

About the new nVidia fermi series GTX570/580 are good too and cost sometimes less than GTX480


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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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hi jura, just to let you know, i installed cod 3 and it does the same as bf3 :-(
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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i have installed 11.10 as the 12. versions would not work, now i have ccc working
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Hi Ian

What i know and what i've read problem is second core of your graphics card doesn't switch to 3d clock and this cause BSOD

Plus i would have look for AMD Catalyst Application Profiles which can help you improve performance in some games which doesn't support the CrossFire

Here is list of all Profiles

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33961798

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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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do you have the same card eagle?
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And from here you can download CAP( Catalyst Application Profiles)
http://www.rage3d.com/cap/

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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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do i just keep going into safe mode, use driver sweeper and keep trying different adm caps until i find one that works?

i have seen on youtube people blaying bf3 with card with no problems at all, so there must be a way around it somehow
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Originally Posted by Ian
do i just keep going into safe mode, use driver sweeper and keep trying different adm caps until i find one that works?

i have seen on youtube people blaying bf3 with card with no problems at all, so there must be a way around it somehow
Hi Ian

As i said,you will need CAP some from this list:

10-15-11

Battlefield 3: Tweaks to the CrossFire profile
Global Ops - Commando Libya: Improves CrossFire performance
Driver San Francisco: Disables CrossFire


Download link :

http://www.rage3d.com/cap/profiles/A...11.11_CAP1.exe

10-25-11

Battlefield 3 – Provides great CrossFire scaling and resolves stuttering issues when running in CrossFire mode.
Deus Ex Missing Link: Improves CrossFire performance
F1 2011: Improves CrossFire performance
Dead Island: Improves CrossFire performance
Batman Arkham City (DX9 version): Improves CrossFire performance
NBA 2012: Disables CrossFire

Download link :

http://www.rage3d.com/cap/profiles/A..._11.9_CAP4.exe

10-19-11

Battlefield 3 - Improves Crossfire Performance

Download link :

http://www.rage3d.com/cap/profiles/A..._11.9_CAP3.exe

These people most use for CrossFire and BF3

You don't need use again Driver sweeper,this is only profile for your card,try them and you will see if help

As before try both,with A.I. on and Off with those CAP


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Originally Posted by Ian
do you have the same card eagle?
no, but i have had exactly the same ccc issue.
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have just tried them 3 jura, but still get the bsod :-(
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Originally Posted by Ian
have just tried them 3 jura, but still get the bsod :-(
Really looking like this game don't like the CrossFire or 4870X2,which is for me really strange

This is good thread about the 4870X2 problems and solutions:


http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=353339




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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Download this FRAPS http://www.fraps.com/download.php ,its great program which can tell you how many FPS you are currently running in games.

Or this is good alternative MSi Afterburner

http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/overview.htm

And how it works

http://versatile1.wordpress.com/2011...s-alternative/

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on the fps im getting around 30 (fraps) playing the 1st co-op mission
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Originally Posted by Ian
on the fps im getting around 30 (fraps) playing the 1st co-op mission
On what settings: Medium,High or Very High?

And what resolution?


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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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i had them on the auto setting, think the 1st one was ultra, and the rest were high
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Originally Posted by Ian
i had them on the auto setting, think the 1st one was ultra, and the rest were high
But still good FPS you have on 1 core,you have enabled V-sync?




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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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v-sync? dont think so
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on a 64 player big map it is around 20 fps
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