Wrx ppp vs focus Rs with dream science
17 February 2012, 12:26 AM
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Ok 
Change the fuel pump/turbo and remap it to get 330/330 and wave goodbye to your buddy in the Focus then!
May also need injectors and a new clutch then though. It's not a cheap hobby
Change the fuel pump/turbo and remap it to get 330/330 and wave goodbye to your buddy in the Focus then!
May also need injectors and a new clutch then though. It's not a cheap hobby
17 February 2012, 12:29 AM
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Will stock internals and gearbox take that power
17 February 2012, 12:32 AM
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Yes mate. 350bhp/lbft is the considered figure for safety then it gets a lot more expensive.
I have a 2.5 WRX with 285bhp/342lbft. If I change anything torque will go over 350 so leaving it as is.
I have a 2.5 WRX with 285bhp/342lbft. If I change anything torque will go over 350 so leaving it as is.
17 February 2012, 05:49 AM
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From a standing start you should get away before the ford 
,but after that its how you get the power down imho 
.A slow/missed gear change overrevving the gearbox,a slipping clutch can all add to the ford going past you once its off the lights.This is in the dry of course,in the wet/rain its game over for the ford.
,but after that its how you get the power down imho .A slow/missed gear change overrevving the gearbox,a slipping clutch can all add to the ford going past you once its off the lights.This is in the dry of course,in the wet/rain its game over for the ford.
17 February 2012, 07:40 AM
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way back in 2005 i had a 54 plate wrx blob with ppp, had it roaded in at 241bhp (fly). i raced a mk1 frs with ONLY actuator spring and bluefin map, and was handed my **** on a plate many times.
i was driving it like i stole it and didn't matter what gear i was in he still pulled away. im talking at least 5-8 car lengths and it pulled away quick enough to me look silly. needless to say thats when i removed the subaru blinkers sold up and bought a classic with 320 hee hee
like i say frs all day long.
i was driving it like i stole it and didn't matter what gear i was in he still pulled away. im talking at least 5-8 car lengths and it pulled away quick enough to me look silly. needless to say thats when i removed the subaru blinkers sold up and bought a classic with 320 hee hee
like i say frs all day long.
17 February 2012, 07:55 AM
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I think there would be so little between them that unless it was from a standing start (see youtube for an STi vs RS500 launch) then it would be more down to the driver on the day ie who didnt fluff a gear change etc. You need a significant power advantage to embarass another car once rolling.
17 February 2012, 09:24 AM
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why do people always think that the power and weight has the last say in everything.
I can think of a fair few cars which have 0-60 times around a whole second slower than a totally standard WRX, yet with more power. Mk2 Focus RS for example has 300bhp, yet 0-60 is only 5.7secs....
The gearing has a lot to do with it all!!! Impreza's seem geared for very good 0-60 times. so all depends and what sorta speed ranges your talking about....
I can think of a fair few cars which have 0-60 times around a whole second slower than a totally standard WRX, yet with more power. Mk2 Focus RS for example has 300bhp, yet 0-60 is only 5.7secs....
The gearing has a lot to do with it all!!! Impreza's seem geared for very good 0-60 times. so all depends and what sorta speed ranges your talking about....
17 February 2012, 10:09 AM
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When I had my 2003 WRX PPP, I had a little run against a 2001 Civic Type R (Stock 200 BHP). On paper my car should have got well away from him, but in reality I was only half a car in front up to approx 70 mph, on the motorway obviously.
WRX PPP figures, in my opinion, are bloated and not a true depiction of the cars actual power.
WRX PPP figures, in my opinion, are bloated and not a true depiction of the cars actual power.
17 February 2012, 12:40 PM
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Bought it because it was cheap just simply thought the Subaru should beat the focus
17 February 2012, 12:58 PM
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When I had my 2003 WRX PPP, I had a little run against a 2001 Civic Type R (Stock 200 BHP). On paper my car should have got well away from him, but in reality I was only half a car in front up to approx 70 mph, on the motorway obviously.
WRX PPP figures, in my opinion, are bloated and not a true depiction of the cars actual power.
WRX PPP figures, in my opinion, are bloated and not a true depiction of the cars actual power.
I did the same back in the day in my standard '00 Turbo (218bhp_ once rolling and was very little in it.That said the scooby was a different beast altogether when it come to overtaking - at least in comparison to the FN2 CTR I drive now which also sucks off the line as no LSD and with the vtec only kicking in at 5,400rpm its hard to get the power down in anything other than a dry flat road.
17 February 2012, 03:03 PM
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Iv'e had a 331BHP/330lbs torque MK1 RS and once there off the line
it would have to be a very quick car to wipe it's feet with a MK1 RS.
Even through the twisty stuff they are a very good tool.The best part
about the RS is that all this power can be had cheaply.Around 2K.
Exhaust £500,De-cat £100,Manifold £500,forge actuator £100 and a
map £500, this will get you a safe/reliable 290/300bhp /300lbs torque.
To get a 330/350 + a hybrid turbo,injectors and a live map would be needed.
I pick my Subaru up Sunday so will let you know how they compare.
it would have to be a very quick car to wipe it's feet with a MK1 RS.
Even through the twisty stuff they are a very good tool.The best part
about the RS is that all this power can be had cheaply.Around 2K.
Exhaust £500,De-cat £100,Manifold £500,forge actuator £100 and a
map £500, this will get you a safe/reliable 290/300bhp /300lbs torque.
To get a 330/350 + a hybrid turbo,injectors and a live map would be needed.
I pick my Subaru up Sunday so will let you know how they compare.
17 February 2012, 08:37 PM
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17 February 2012, 08:48 PM
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Iv'e had a 331BHP/330lbs torque MK1 RS and once there off the line
it would have to be a very quick car to wipe it's feet with a MK1 RS.
Even through the twisty stuff they are a very good tool.The best part
about the RS is that all this power can be had cheaply.Around 2K.
Exhaust £500,De-cat £100,Manifold £500,forge actuator £100 and a
map £500, this will get you a safe/reliable 290/300bhp /300lbs torque.
To get a 330/350 + a hybrid turbo,injectors and a live map would be needed.
I pick my Subaru up Sunday so will let you know how they compare.
it would have to be a very quick car to wipe it's feet with a MK1 RS.
Even through the twisty stuff they are a very good tool.The best part
about the RS is that all this power can be had cheaply.Around 2K.
Exhaust £500,De-cat £100,Manifold £500,forge actuator £100 and a
map £500, this will get you a safe/reliable 290/300bhp /300lbs torque.
To get a 330/350 + a hybrid turbo,injectors and a live map would be needed.
I pick my Subaru up Sunday so will let you know how they compare.
17 February 2012, 08:49 PM
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Depends on the driver of course.
A 4WD car can be an **** to launch perfectly, the FWD is easy (especially with the LSD on the Focus).
I'd have though the a Mk1 Focus would be quite a bit lighter than a Blobeye WRX?
A 4WD car can be an **** to launch perfectly, the FWD is easy (especially with the LSD on the Focus).
I'd have though the a Mk1 Focus would be quite a bit lighter than a Blobeye WRX?
17 February 2012, 09:02 PM
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I had a hawks eye wrx and my mates got a mk1 rs both had same sort of work exh, decat, filter, remap and no difference till around the 100-110 mph when I pull away
17 February 2012, 09:11 PM
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17 February 2012, 09:16 PM
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17 February 2012, 09:20 PM
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Wots the best thing to do with a stock wrx pop to get to 300 bhp can u have turbo back system full decat without engine management light coming on ? And is the prodrive backbox any good or scrap it ???
17 February 2012, 09:29 PM
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