Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

The Matrix

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09 February 2012, 01:36 AM
  #31  
finalzero
Scooby Regular
 
finalzero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Buckinghamshire
Posts: 2,272
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I like all 3 movies, I got the story and idea that was being pitched...kind of a Messiah for the 21st century and questioning what is real.
Old 09 February 2012, 01:48 AM
  #32  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jonc
The coming of the messiah? Trinity - Magdalene, Cypher -Judus....yada yada..too obvious perhaps?
...Morpheous as John the Baptist. Thomas (doubting) A. Anderson (literal translation is Son of Man) and Neo (meaning new and an anagram of One) being reborn in to belief and so on and so forth. I've never read one, but I understand there are dozens of books dedicated to it. I see Plato's Allegory of the Cave in there and a quick Google tells me so do others. The only original thought I can add is that the Wachowski brothers are heavily influenced by JRR Tolkien who in turn was influenced by Owen Barfield (one of the 'Inklings' along with CS Lewis) and he was heavily influenced by Rudolph Steiner's Anthroposophy. For me, Anthroposophy is a central theme and this has its roots in the mystery religions and the western mystery religions were and are heavily influenced by Plato's allegory, so that all ties in nicely. I see the films as an expression of speculative esoteric Christianity via the mythopoeia genre.

Last edited by JTaylor; 09 February 2012 at 01:50 AM.
Old 09 February 2012, 08:57 AM
  #33  
Carlh
Scooby Regular
 
Carlh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Telford
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Great movies
Old 09 February 2012, 09:58 AM
  #34  
Maz
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (34)
 
Maz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Yorkshire.
Posts: 15,884
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTaylor
One of my favourite films and on at 9pm on TCM. I was wondering how people interpret it; what do you see beyond the action and effects?
A huge religious subtext. Infact it was the proverbial elephant in the room.
Old 09 February 2012, 10:16 AM
  #35  
tony de wonderful
Scooby Regular
 
tony de wonderful's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wow let's take biblical archetypes, dress them up in sexy-sci fi outfits, and set it in a digital future where reality is obviously in need of questioning, and then everyone can say we are really clever?
Old 09 February 2012, 11:25 AM
  #36  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Wow let's take biblical archetypes, dress them up in sexy-sci fi outfits, and set it in a digital future where reality is obviously in need of questioning, and then everyone can say we are really clever?
Chronicles of Narnia, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars?
Old 09 February 2012, 11:31 AM
  #37  
tony de wonderful
Scooby Regular
 
tony de wonderful's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTaylor
Chronicles of Narnia, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars?
The first two are nice kids books (loved them as a kid) but that is about it. As for Star Wars, Alec Guinness himself said it was banal crap (I am probably paraphrasing there).
Old 09 February 2012, 12:47 PM
  #38  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
The first two are nice kids books (loved them as a kid) but that is about it. As for Star Wars, Alec Guinness himself said it was banal crap (I am probably paraphrasing there).
Any mythopoeia, other than Bladerunner, which you don't simply sweep aside? How do you rate Goethe and Shakespeare and Blake?
Old 09 February 2012, 12:52 PM
  #39  
Maz
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (34)
 
Maz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Yorkshire.
Posts: 15,884
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Wow let's take biblical archetypes, dress them up in sexy-sci fi outfits, and set it in a digital future where reality is obviously in need of questioning, and then everyone can say we are really clever?
Chosen ones and Zion.
Old 09 February 2012, 12:56 PM
  #40  
New_scooby_04
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
New_scooby_04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Terry Crews of moderation. P P P P P P POWER!!
Posts: 18,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSfuaGNyHV4

Old 09 February 2012, 09:09 PM
  #41  
jonc
Scooby Regular
 
jonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,635
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Funnily enough, Blade Runner is on now on Sky Atlantic HD.
Old 09 February 2012, 09:17 PM
  #42  
JTaylor
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
JTaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Home
Posts: 14,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jonc
Funnily enough, Blade Runner is on now on Sky Atlantic HD.
Old 09 February 2012, 09:34 PM
  #43  
Suresh
Scooby Regular
 
Suresh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 4,622
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Neo was Jesus and Carrie Ann Moss was totally smoking hot back in 1999.
I read the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? when at school. Is the film any good then? I think I watched a dodgy pirate copy once and it didn't do anything for me. Maybe I should try that again?
Old 09 February 2012, 09:37 PM
  #44  
Trout
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Trout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 15,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTaylor
One of my favourite films and on at 9pm on TCM. I was wondering how people interpret it; what do you see beyond the action and effects?
I think if it was made today it would obviously be about how banks have formed a mega global network and we are all pawns in the bankers game...
Old 09 February 2012, 09:53 PM
  #45  
Jamz3k
Scooby Regular
 
Jamz3k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 6,736
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

It was made to sell the new disc format DVD. They went into a meeting and said, "Here mate we need a totally bustin' film to show of our new format that will also have added extras on the disc that really screw with peoples heads that think they can find meaning in films." and the director said, "weeker!"

All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Pro-Line Motorsport
Car Parts For Sale
0
27 September 2015 11:21 AM
Huey220
General Technical
4
08 November 2002 11:16 AM
Nelson
Wanted
1
25 October 2002 11:31 PM
Miles
Lighting and Other Electrical
1
25 August 2002 04:27 PM



Quick Reply: The Matrix



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:38 PM.