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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 01:36 AM
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I like all 3 movies, I got the story and idea that was being pitched...kind of a Messiah for the 21st century and questioning what is real.
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 01:48 AM
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The coming of the messiah? Trinity - Magdalene, Cypher -Judus....yada yada..too obvious perhaps?
...Morpheous as John the Baptist. Thomas (doubting) A. Anderson (literal translation is Son of Man) and Neo (meaning new and an anagram of One) being reborn in to belief and so on and so forth. I've never read one, but I understand there are dozens of books dedicated to it. I see Plato's Allegory of the Cave in there and a quick Google tells me so do others. The only original thought I can add is that the Wachowski brothers are heavily influenced by JRR Tolkien who in turn was influenced by Owen Barfield (one of the 'Inklings' along with CS Lewis) and he was heavily influenced by Rudolph Steiner's Anthroposophy. For me, Anthroposophy is a central theme and this has its roots in the mystery religions and the western mystery religions were and are heavily influenced by Plato's allegory, so that all ties in nicely. I see the films as an expression of speculative esoteric Christianity via the mythopoeia genre.

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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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Great movies
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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One of my favourite films and on at 9pm on TCM. I was wondering how people interpret it; what do you see beyond the action and effects?
A huge religious subtext. Infact it was the proverbial elephant in the room.
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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Wow let's take biblical archetypes, dress them up in sexy-sci fi outfits, and set it in a digital future where reality is obviously in need of questioning, and then everyone can say we are really clever?
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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Wow let's take biblical archetypes, dress them up in sexy-sci fi outfits, and set it in a digital future where reality is obviously in need of questioning, and then everyone can say we are really clever?
Chronicles of Narnia, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars?
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Chronicles of Narnia, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars?
The first two are nice kids books (loved them as a kid) but that is about it. As for Star Wars, Alec Guinness himself said it was banal crap (I am probably paraphrasing there).
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
The first two are nice kids books (loved them as a kid) but that is about it. As for Star Wars, Alec Guinness himself said it was banal crap (I am probably paraphrasing there).
Any mythopoeia, other than Bladerunner, which you don't simply sweep aside? How do you rate Goethe and Shakespeare and Blake?
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Wow let's take biblical archetypes, dress them up in sexy-sci fi outfits, and set it in a digital future where reality is obviously in need of questioning, and then everyone can say we are really clever?
Chosen ones and Zion.
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSfuaGNyHV4

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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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Funnily enough, Blade Runner is on now on Sky Atlantic HD.
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Funnily enough, Blade Runner is on now on Sky Atlantic HD.
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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Neo was Jesus and Carrie Ann Moss was totally smoking hot back in 1999.
I read the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? when at school. Is the film any good then? I think I watched a dodgy pirate copy once and it didn't do anything for me. Maybe I should try that again?
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
One of my favourite films and on at 9pm on TCM. I was wondering how people interpret it; what do you see beyond the action and effects?
I think if it was made today it would obviously be about how banks have formed a mega global network and we are all pawns in the bankers game...
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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It was made to sell the new disc format DVD. They went into a meeting and said, "Here mate we need a totally bustin' film to show of our new format that will also have added extras on the disc that really screw with peoples heads that think they can find meaning in films." and the director said, "weeker!"

All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
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