Buying a 115k Hawkeye STi, what do I need to know?
07 February 2012, 01:03 PM
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Well they appear to know the car. They said they wouldn't normally resell one with this mileage but have made an exception for this. I assume the person bought it new from them and has traded it back inw ith them.
Either way, I can fix it if it goes wrong. The reason for buying this is that budget was £4.5k for a Bug Eye STi and then we spotted this and decided to go for it, despite being a bit over.
Wouldn't pay any more for an Impreza at this stage, and I believe this is the best we could get for the money.
Either way, I can fix it if it goes wrong. The reason for buying this is that budget was £4.5k for a Bug Eye STi and then we spotted this and decided to go for it, despite being a bit over.
Wouldn't pay any more for an Impreza at this stage, and I believe this is the best we could get for the money.
07 February 2012, 01:16 PM
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Hm. My spec D had 33,000 on it and that went BANG soon after. They are a lovely car if unmolested and this looks clean and original. No idea why they'd put it on the site as a 2.0 WRX except for leaving the dippy secretary to update it?
As mine is quite unoriginal now, I can say all it looks to have is a badge on the boot that wasn't there from new. probably a dealer badge?
The Sat Nav and stereo are CRAP. the black carpet and leather is nicer and the silver wheels can be replaced easily as most subaru dealers have them lying around with new tyres after PPP conversions on hatches.
Don't be put off at all by mileage. It's condition and an unmolested car that is still running O.E. boost will probably last another 100,000miles! Wind it up and wait for the bang though!
As mine is quite unoriginal now, I can say all it looks to have is a badge on the boot that wasn't there from new. probably a dealer badge?
The Sat Nav and stereo are CRAP. the black carpet and leather is nicer and the silver wheels can be replaced easily as most subaru dealers have them lying around with new tyres after PPP conversions on hatches.
Don't be put off at all by mileage. It's condition and an unmolested car that is still running O.E. boost will probably last another 100,000miles! Wind it up and wait for the bang though!
07 February 2012, 01:31 PM
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I would go for it. At that price it gets you into a much later car that, if you think about it has still only done less than 20,000 miles a year. And if its mainly motorway it will be evenly worn instead of stop start (like mine lol).
If its been well maintained you shouod have no more worries than if it had done 60,000 miles. Then if the day came for a rebuild you will have a 2006 car with a new forged engine. Nice
If its been well maintained you shouod have no more worries than if it had done 60,000 miles. Then if the day came for a rebuild you will have a 2006 car with a new forged engine. Nice
07 February 2012, 02:44 PM
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Cheers guys. Well my stay here will be much longer now than I envisaged when I bought the Wagon as a winter hack! What can i say, I fell in love 
I always wanted an excuse to build a 400bhp car anyway :P
Turns out the dealer selling it is the dealer that sold it brand new. As far as Warranties go, IM told me that the car is too old for their approved scheme etc. but that I will be able to buy something called a 6 Star Warranty. Can anyone tell me more about this?
God I can't wait to get it. It will be the greatest day of my life so far LOL!
I always wanted an excuse to build a 400bhp car anyway :P
Turns out the dealer selling it is the dealer that sold it brand new. As far as Warranties go, IM told me that the car is too old for their approved scheme etc. but that I will be able to buy something called a 6 Star Warranty. Can anyone tell me more about this?
God I can't wait to get it. It will be the greatest day of my life so far LOL!
07 February 2012, 02:54 PM
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With that many miles it stands to reason that a fair few of them will be motorway as who does 1500 miles a month on country roads.
In my experience high miles mean it's a good un and been looked after, as if your clocking up lots of miles then you make sure the car is tip top.
I say go for it, i would.
Well actually i wouldn't but thats only because i'd opt for a 2.0l but thats just me
In my experience high miles mean it's a good un and been looked after, as if your clocking up lots of miles then you make sure the car is tip top.
I say go for it, i would.
Well actually i wouldn't but thats only because i'd opt for a 2.0l but thats just me
07 February 2012, 02:54 PM
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According to Parkers it's the 1st April 2006 that hits the higher bracket.
Wrong it's the 23rd March. Mine is the 25th and 400 tax band. Only seen one Spec D on the cheaper band.
You would get £2k for the dccd box regardless of the miles.
Frontend conversion £1k+, £700 brakes, so you're never gonna lose money at 5.5k
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07 February 2012, 03:03 PM
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as been said allready keep soem money aside for running/repairs etc..i bought a mint blobeye last aug with full extended warranty(paid extra)..last month my shockers failed and warranty didnt want to know saying struts are wear and tear..£630 they cost to replace inc fitting etc....as for mileage that means nothing 115k can be a better purchase than a 15k one, also service books mean nothing too as been pointed out too, ive learnt the hard way with fdsh cars with supposedly low miles!!..if it drives well, sounds right only you can decide..good luck
07 February 2012, 04:01 PM
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The dealer would have allowed alot more than £3500 for the car that I can assure you. The car would of been taken in as part exchange against a much more valuable car. The dealers profit is in the car they are selling so even if they don't make any profit on the part ex they are still winning. I would think they had to allow 5K for it against a new model.
07 February 2012, 04:09 PM
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That's not how it works fella.
The dealer would have allowed alot more than £3500 for the car that I can assure you. The car would of been taken in as part exchange against a much more valuable car. The dealers profit is in the car they are selling so even if they don't make any profit on the part ex they are still winning. I would think they had to allow 5K for it against a new model.
The dealer would have allowed alot more than £3500 for the car that I can assure you. The car would of been taken in as part exchange against a much more valuable car. The dealers profit is in the car they are selling so even if they don't make any profit on the part ex they are still winning. I would think they had to allow 5K for it against a new model.
11 February 2012, 08:48 PM
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Well I'm now in Paris with the OH, but all I can think about is collecting the car next Sat!!
My shopping list thus far consists of an STi wing, carbon front splitter, exhaust system and remap. I'm going to stick some money away every month and will think about slotting a nice low mileage engine into her in 12-18 months' time.
Just can't wait. I believe the rear dampers are a weak point also, so I may need to get some coilovers on the list too....
My shopping list thus far consists of an STi wing, carbon front splitter, exhaust system and remap. I'm going to stick some money away every month and will think about slotting a nice low mileage engine into her in 12-18 months' time.
Just can't wait. I believe the rear dampers are a weak point also, so I may need to get some coilovers on the list too....
11 February 2012, 08:54 PM
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Well I'm now in Paris with the OH, but all I can think about is collecting the car next Sat!!
My shopping list thus far consists of an STi wing, carbon front splitter, exhaust system and remap. I'm going to stick some money away every month and will think about slotting a nice low mileage engine into her in 12-18 months' time.
Just can't wait. I believe the rear dampers are a weak point also, so I may need to get some coilovers on the list too....
My shopping list thus far consists of an STi wing, carbon front splitter, exhaust system and remap. I'm going to stick some money away every month and will think about slotting a nice low mileage engine into her in 12-18 months' time.
Just can't wait. I believe the rear dampers are a weak point also, so I may need to get some coilovers on the list too....
I have a STI8 High rise spoiler for sale if any use. Also got a nice 2.5 Exhaust, not too loud but very distinctive rumble.
Rob
11 February 2012, 10:39 PM
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Have you actually seen the car yet? Only reason I ask is because I got my Hawk from there and what I was told over the phone and what I saw didn't quite match up. They said it was in great condition but I found a deep chip and botched repair on the bumper and a scratch down the side. It had a deep chip in the windscreen which they said 'had been 'filled' a couple of weeks earlier' which turned out to be bollocks (I got it professionally repaired myself and it had never been 'filled' like he said) and also when signing the forms they discovered that the MOT had ran out!!! If they wouldn't have been able to sort that there and then it would have been a wasted trip of 200 miles each way! I didn't really like their attitude either if i'm honest.
11 February 2012, 10:43 PM
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Have you actually seen the car yet? Only reason I ask is because I got my Hawk from there and what I was told over the phone and what I saw didn't quite match up. They said it was in great condition but I found a deep chip and botched repair on the bumper and a scratch down the side. It had a deep chip in the windscreen which they said 'had been 'filled' a couple of weeks earlier' which turned out to be bollocks (I got it professionally repaired myself and it had never been 'filled' like he said) and also when signing the forms they discovered that the MOT had ran out!!! If they wouldn't have been able to sort that there and then it would have been a wasted trip of 200 miles each way! I didn't really like their attitude either if i'm honest.
11 February 2012, 10:58 PM
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He assured me the windscreen had been fixed, why should I have doubted that? I got them to polish the scratch out and do the mot whilst there (luckily) so it came down to the chip on the bumper, I got the car for a good price so decided to sort it out myself when up here. I still got a good deal and it's not let me down, i'm just warning him to have the 'divide by factor' when he goes in.
11 February 2012, 11:04 PM
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He assured me the windscreen had been fixed, why should I have doubted that? I got them to polish the scratch out and do the mot whilst there (luckily) so it came down to the chip on the bumper, I got the car for a good price so decided to sort it out myself when up here. I still got a good deal and it's not let me down, i'm just warning him to have the 'divide by factor' when he goes in.
servicing,repairs etc hardly a trustworthy
11 February 2012, 11:18 PM
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It turned out well but it did take the shine off a day that I had been really looking forward to.I think wherever you go if you are buying second hand you need to do checks on the car yourself and be prepared to spend a bit on it once you've picked it up, if after taking that into account it's still a good price then go for it!
11 February 2012, 11:27 PM
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How has your car been since, and what's the model and mileage?
11 February 2012, 11:42 PM
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My problem with the dealers was that I had expected it to be 'mint' and it wasn't, plus the bull **** about the window and MOT. It's a great car and was a brill price but like I mentioned earlier it still took the shine off a big day.
12 February 2012, 10:08 AM
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Any car with high mileage will have wear and tear issues. A mint 100k car and a mint 6k car won't be in the same condition- its all relative.
Jay, your advantage here is that it really doesn't matter as if you're hankering after a 400bhp car eventually all you need is a tidy base to build on. A Hawkeye 2.5 STi is a perfect start and £5,5k is a great way to go as your initial investment is low. Yes the bushes will be worn, the shocks worn, the engine worn, the seats maybe? For £5,5k so what!
You can get Crystal Grey spoilers, I recommend a cheapo splitter as its expendable! Coilovers- I went for BC ERs. Brilliant. I recommend Alan Jefferies for a super strong engine as the basis of a rebuild- £4.5k would get you an AP clutch, full rebuild on ACL bearings, balanced crank, K- rods and Wiseco pistons held by 12mm studs in Cosworth gaskets and timing belt. Good for whatever you throw at it later on.
Jay, your advantage here is that it really doesn't matter as if you're hankering after a 400bhp car eventually all you need is a tidy base to build on. A Hawkeye 2.5 STi is a perfect start and £5,5k is a great way to go as your initial investment is low. Yes the bushes will be worn, the shocks worn, the engine worn, the seats maybe? For £5,5k so what!
You can get Crystal Grey spoilers, I recommend a cheapo splitter as its expendable! Coilovers- I went for BC ERs. Brilliant. I recommend Alan Jefferies for a super strong engine as the basis of a rebuild- £4.5k would get you an AP clutch, full rebuild on ACL bearings, balanced crank, K- rods and Wiseco pistons held by 12mm studs in Cosworth gaskets and timing belt. Good for whatever you throw at it later on.
12 February 2012, 10:47 AM
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Any car with high mileage will have wear and tear issues. A mint 100k car and a mint 6k car won't be in the same condition- its all relative.
Jay, your advantage here is that it really doesn't matter as if you're hankering after a 400bhp car eventually all you need is a tidy base to build on. A Hawkeye 2.5 STi is a perfect start and £5,5k is a great way to go as your initial investment is low. Yes the bushes will be worn, the shocks worn, the engine worn, the seats maybe? For £5,5k so what!
You can get Crystal Grey spoilers, I recommend a cheapo splitter as its expendable! Coilovers- I went for BC ERs. Brilliant. I recommend Alan Jefferies for a super strong engine as the basis of a rebuild- £4.5k would get you an AP clutch, full rebuild on ACL bearings, balanced crank, K- rods and Wiseco pistons held by 12mm studs in Cosworth gaskets and timing belt. Good for whatever you throw at it later on.
Jay, your advantage here is that it really doesn't matter as if you're hankering after a 400bhp car eventually all you need is a tidy base to build on. A Hawkeye 2.5 STi is a perfect start and £5,5k is a great way to go as your initial investment is low. Yes the bushes will be worn, the shocks worn, the engine worn, the seats maybe? For £5,5k so what!
You can get Crystal Grey spoilers, I recommend a cheapo splitter as its expendable! Coilovers- I went for BC ERs. Brilliant. I recommend Alan Jefferies for a super strong engine as the basis of a rebuild- £4.5k would get you an AP clutch, full rebuild on ACL bearings, balanced crank, K- rods and Wiseco pistons held by 12mm studs in Cosworth gaskets and timing belt. Good for whatever you throw at it later on.
High rise spoiler in Crystal Grey, im sure you can if you look hard enough, but I have never seen one for sale.
Rob
12 February 2012, 05:01 PM
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I'd personally rather pay a bit extra for for something with lower miles, I have owned a couple of high milers and they just cost you more in the long term. 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...:X:RTQ:GB:1123
PPP fitted, only 46k and you could probably get it for a few hundred cheaper if you haggled.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...:X:RTQ:GB:1123
PPP fitted, only 46k and you could probably get it for a few hundred cheaper if you haggled.